In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true

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Anonymous wrote:It's time.

It's time for every council member and bleeding heart pundit who runs around saying "but they are just kids, they don't know the consequences" to just shut up and sit down. And it's time to treat these serious, violent crimes like armed robbery and carjacking as the adult crimes they are, and to police them and prosecute them accordingly. And to hold those who fail to do so accountable, regardless of where they are in the chain, whether MPD or other LEOs, whether Council, the Mayor, the Prosecutors, the Courts, the detention and probation, ALL of them need to start being held accountable.

These kids committing those crimes DAMN WELL DO understand the consequences.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/viral-video-dc-teens-discussing-difference-criminal-charges-armed-carjacking-robbery-murder

From what I can tell, it’s going to take a lot more to force these people to admit failure and lead DC out of this mess than current crime levels.


Today, Bowser declared an emergency regarding youth violence and apparently is looking to use emergency powers to bolster up on juvenile detention facilities to get these kids off the streets. She's also declared an emergency on opioids.

https://mayor.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-issues-public-emergency-give-district-new-tools-responding-opioid-crisis-and

I wonder how folks are going to respond next year when it is announced that DC cannot afford bike lanes because it needs to build more juvenile detention facilities. That’s going to be interesting.


Moody's changed DC's credit rating outlook from stable to negative today. Doesn't seem as if we're gonna be able to afford either of those things.

Holy cow. This is a big deal and should be its own thread. It’s notable that they downgraded DC but not VA or MD.

I’m practical terms what this means for DC is that everything they want to do has just gotten more expensive to finance and as a result the wish list needs to get smaller or taxes need to get higher.


Cool. So let’s drop $10 million on bike lanes that 100 people want but 150 businesses owners say will ruin them.


There is absolutely no way that bike lanes will ruin 150 businesses. Knock it off with the hyperbole.


There is also no way that controversial bike lanes on Connecticut Ave and other thoroughfares get build in this political climate and especially with the District’s deteriorating financial situation. DC can’t even afford to put cops on bikes now. Do you think they will spend many millions of dollars for lycra bros on bikes?
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Anonymous wrote:Again, let’s be clear, these proposals are not intended to make a difference. They are intended to pretend that they are trying. In order to actually make a difference, DC political leaders will need to admit they were wrong and embrace the very pro-active policing strategies that they have eschewed, including aggressive use of Terry stops, undercover work/vice squads, and aggressive prosecution of even minor offenses.


It’s interesting how D.C.’s jump in murders began the same year that the city got rid of it’s vice squads. Also the first year that Bowser was mayor, for that matter:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/08/26/why-did-dc-shut-down-its-vice-squads-crime-rate-cathy-lanier/

Though, as is often the case, as bad as Bowser has been she’s still preferable to the Council as she at least sees crime as an issue. In 2016, both Bowser and Lanier were talking about D.C.’s broken system that let’s repeat offenders victimize people again and again:

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/is-dcs-criminal-justice-system-broken-mayor-bowser-agrees-with-chief-laniers-comments

Which is a reminder that even during the “good days,” crime was bad and the system was broken. But it was still tolerable to people. Though it seems that they tolerated it too much, and sheepishly sat by as extremist activists drove things into the ground. Now it seems like it would take years to even get back to the “bad but somewhat tolerable” levels.
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Anonymous wrote:Again, let’s be clear, these proposals are not intended to make a difference. They are intended to pretend that they are trying. In order to actually make a difference, DC political leaders will need to admit they were wrong and embrace the very pro-active policing strategies that they have eschewed, including aggressive use of Terry stops, undercover work/vice squads, and aggressive prosecution of even minor offenses.


It’s interesting how D.C.’s jump in murders began the same year that the city got rid of it’s vice squads. Also the first year that Bowser was mayor, for that matter:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/08/26/why-did-dc-shut-down-its-vice-squads-crime-rate-cathy-lanier/

Though, as is often the case, as bad as Bowser has been she’s still preferable to the Council as she at least sees crime as an issue. In 2016, both Bowser and Lanier were talking about D.C.’s broken system that let’s repeat offenders victimize people again and again:

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/is-dcs-criminal-justice-system-broken-mayor-bowser-agrees-with-chief-laniers-comments

Which is a reminder that even during the “good days,” crime was bad and the system was broken. But it was still tolerable to people. Though it seems that they tolerated it too much, and sheepishly sat by as extremist activists drove things into the ground. Now it seems like it would take years to even get back to the “bad but somewhat tolerable” levels.

Terry Stops were also effectively banned in DC in 2016 with passage of the NEAR Act. It created administrative requirements so burdensome for conducting Terry Stops that the police are disincentivized from doing them.
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We’re all for Terry stops and stop and frisk. Let’s finally side with law abiding citizens over criminals and hoodlums. Let’s hope that MPD’s emasculation period will soon be over.
Anonymous
A juvenile was shot today, just before 3pm, IN the Petworth metro station. By another juvenile.

Maybe it's time for the vice squads to go back in the neighborhoods and for a robust and coordinated regional anti-gang push to be launched in conjunction with fed partners.

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Send in the feds.
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Anonymous wrote:A juvenile was shot today, just before 3pm, IN the Petworth metro station. By another juvenile.

Maybe it's time for the vice squads to go back in the neighborhoods and for a robust and coordinated regional anti-gang push to be launched in conjunction with fed partners.

But tHe sChOoL tO PrIsOn pIpElInE!
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Petworth is really not so family friendly anymore. This was during commuting hours. Guess the USAO's case against Kennedy gang didn't do all that much re: the violence. The lawlessness in random places in broad daylight is getting really old.

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Good work with a quick arrest of the shooter. The shot teen is in critical condition. Hope the shooter will be prosecuted and HELD, not home this weekend.
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Anonymous wrote:A juvenile was shot today, just before 3pm, IN the Petworth metro station. By another juvenile.

Maybe it's time for the vice squads to go back in the neighborhoods and for a robust and coordinated regional anti-gang push to be launched in conjunction with fed partners.



I mean... Charles Allen is fine with this I guess?
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Good work with a quick arrest of the shooter. The shot teen is in critical condition. Hope the shooter will be prosecuted and HELD, not home this weekend.



Hope is not a plan. Are you ready to protest? make phone calls? sit-in? work on election re-calls?
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Anonymous wrote:DC crimes are not prosecuted. They declined to prosecute 67% of local arrests. Philly was only 4% to give an example
DC is allowing crime to happen and not chosing to prosecute it they are eventually asking for it and voters are supporting it


This is it right here. I personally know 3 DC residents who were the victims of crime and none of their cases were prosecuted. They returned "no paper" on every single case.

1. Carjacking. Victim provided very good description of the guys who did it, including a pair of distinct shoes. The guys were caught in the stolen car nearby. The descriptions matched and the one guy was wearing the shoes. Prosecutor chose to no paper due to lack of evidence. This was in 2022.

2. Robbery. Surveillance footage of the robbery was provided to the police. No prosecution. What's even better in this case is that the victim went to the location where her belongings were recovered and spoke with the manager of the business about security footage. The manager would not send her the footage (said the police could get it, tho) but allowed her to use her cell phone to record the screen. The person who robbed her and the person who ditched the belongings are the same. The police never even asked about any security footage from either location. This was in 2023.

3. B&E. Ring footage and inside video footage provided to the police. No prosecution. This was in 2023.

Make it make sense, please.

The young people of DC know they can pretty much do what they want and get away with it.


This must be beyond infuriating for the victims - to have no justice, not even an attempt at justice or accountability. Shame on all who are responsible.
Is there anything those persons you know did in response? Is there anything to do? Get a lawyer? Speak to the media? What can move DC leadership into action?
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Anonymous wrote:Send in the feds.


Yep! Feds found the carjacker in a day
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, let’s be clear, these proposals are not intended to make a difference. They are intended to pretend that they are trying. In order to actually make a difference, DC political leaders will need to admit they were wrong and embrace the very pro-active policing strategies that they have eschewed, including aggressive use of Terry stops, undercover work/vice squads, and aggressive prosecution of even minor offenses.


It’s interesting how D.C.’s jump in murders began the same year that the city got rid of it’s vice squads. Also the first year that Bowser was mayor, for that matter:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2015/08/26/why-did-dc-shut-down-its-vice-squads-crime-rate-cathy-lanier/

Though, as is often the case, as bad as Bowser has been she’s still preferable to the Council as she at least sees crime as an issue. In 2016, both Bowser and Lanier were talking about D.C.’s broken system that let’s repeat offenders victimize people again and again:

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/is-dcs-criminal-justice-system-broken-mayor-bowser-agrees-with-chief-laniers-comments

Which is a reminder that even during the “good days,” crime was bad and the system was broken. But it was still tolerable to people. Though it seems that they tolerated it too much, and sheepishly sat by as extremist activists drove things into the ground. Now it seems like it would take years to even get back to the “bad but somewhat tolerable” levels.


I hear the words you are saying. But don’t kids deserve a second chance in DC ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's time.

It's time for every council member and bleeding heart pundit who runs around saying "but they are just kids, they don't know the consequences" to just shut up and sit down. And it's time to treat these serious, violent crimes like armed robbery and carjacking as the adult crimes they are, and to police them and prosecute them accordingly. And to hold those who fail to do so accountable, regardless of where they are in the chain, whether MPD or other LEOs, whether Council, the Mayor, the Prosecutors, the Courts, the detention and probation, ALL of them need to start being held accountable.

These kids committing those crimes DAMN WELL DO understand the consequences.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/viral-video-dc-teens-discussing-difference-criminal-charges-armed-carjacking-robbery-murder

From what I can tell, it’s going to take a lot more to force these people to admit failure and lead DC out of this mess than current crime levels.


Today, Bowser declared an emergency regarding youth violence and apparently is looking to use emergency powers to bolster up on juvenile detention facilities to get these kids off the streets. She's also declared an emergency on opioids.

https://mayor.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-issues-public-emergency-give-district-new-tools-responding-opioid-crisis-and


Narrators voice: “In retrospect keeping the kids out of school for two years and convincing them they’re owed reparations was a bad idea.”


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