WJ/BCC Fight - No racism please!

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

This didn’t happen inside the metro station. Metro just happens to be two blocks from the school and the parking area is a cut through for anyone walking to Chipotle or Bethesda Row. The fact that this happened where it did has nothing to do with who does or doesn’t take public transportation.

I'll bet a lot of the kids were hanging out at Chipotle and restaurants nearby before the incident happened. Should be easy to ID them from video.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

+1. My kid is a freshman at WJ. He was not at the game either but would have totally walked to find food after the game. What grade were these kids involved in the fight? They looked older in the videos I saw. I asked my kid if the school/ teachers addressed/ talked about the fight with the students today or if his friends were talking about it and he said no.

This is not true, the principal made an an announcement. I don’t know all of what she said but she offfered counseling and told the kids not to retaliate. My daughter said this happened in 1st period when everyone is half asleep.

[Anonymous]

We have a relative at BCC who said that a bunch of kids are suspended and one kid went to “juvy” Take all that with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a relative at BCC who said that a bunch of kids are suspended and one kid went to “juvy” Take all that with a grain of salt.

The most recent WTOP article says there were no arrests as of Tuesday. There are lots of unsubstantiated rumors going around because that’s what happens in these situations.

- BCC parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

+1. My kid is a freshman at WJ. He was not at the game either but would have totally walked to find food after the game. What grade were these kids involved in the fight? They looked older in the videos I saw. I asked my kid if the school/ teachers addressed/ talked about the fight with the students today or if his friends were talking about it and he said no.

Unbelievable. So much for prioritizing mental health.

That is not true. My 10th grader at WJ felt good about the WJ principal’s strong address to the school on Tuesday about the fight. She applauded the students who attended the game for creating a positive atmosphere, emphasized that the fight was unacceptable, and implored them not to retaliate. Counselor support was offered for kids with concerns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

+1 Exactly!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Completely tone deaf to call out kids gathering evidence in the same paragraph as the criminals. This is why kids think authority is a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

+1 Exactly!!

Those kids weren't videoing to show it to the police. They were videoing to post it on social media so they could have a viral video and get lots of reactions. They should've been calling 911 instead. In the longer video you can see how gleeful the bystanders seem to be, like this was some sort of entertainment. Of course they're not the same as the criminals, but they should be held accountable, unless they've come forward and turned all of their evidence over to the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

that's where they agreed to meet for the fight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

+1 Exactly!!

Those kids weren't videoing to show it to the police. They were videoing to post it on social media so they could have a viral video and get lots of reactions. They should've been calling 911 instead. In the longer video you can see how gleeful the bystanders seem to be, like this was some sort of entertainment. Of course they're not the same as the criminals, but they should be held accountable, unless they've come forward and turned all of their evidence over to the police.

you want to infringe on their 1st amendment rights.

GMAFB, they should videotape incidents so we can have a clear picture of what actually happened instead of the emotional PR show of " my sweet kind WJ kid was innocently eating a burrito when some big bad girls with braids assaulted them".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

+1. My kid is a freshman at WJ. He was not at the game either but would have totally walked to find food after the game. What grade were these kids involved in the fight? They looked older in the videos I saw. I asked my kid if the school/ teachers addressed/ talked about the fight with the students today or if his friends were talking about it and he said no.

This is not true, the principal made an an announcement. I don’t know all of what she said but she offfered counseling and told the kids not to retaliate. My daughter said this happened in 1st period when everyone is half asleep.

LOL! My son must have been one of those that was half asleep during the announcement!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

+1. My kid is a freshman at WJ. He was not at the game either but would have totally walked to find food after the game. What grade were these kids involved in the fight? They looked older in the videos I saw. I asked my kid if the school/ teachers addressed/ talked about the fight with the students today or if his friends were talking about it and he said no.

This is not true, the principal made an an announcement. I don’t know all of what she said but she offfered counseling and told the kids not to retaliate. My daughter said this happened in 1st period when everyone is half asleep.

LOL! My son must have been one of those that was half asleep during the announcement!

Who cares! I blame the radical socialists at MCEA for these problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

+1 Exactly!!

Those kids weren't videoing to show it to the police. They were videoing to post it on social media so they could have a viral video and get lots of reactions. They should've been calling 911 instead. In the longer video you can see how gleeful the bystanders seem to be, like this was some sort of entertainment. Of course they're not the same as the criminals, but they should be held accountable, unless they've come forward and turned all of their evidence over to the police.

I think Mooney's message is a warning to anyone who wants to expose problems in MCPS on social media. It is clearly intended to discourage the specific act of taking videos and posting them publicly.

If the problem is that they didn't call 911, everyone present who did not call 911 should also get in trouble. If the problem is the gleeful comments, that should have been made clear in the message. However, the message specifically calls out the act of taking the video and posting it, claiming that it "adds to the disruption" when we all know the real problem is they make MCPS look bad and force them to respond instead of pretending everything is rainbows and unicorns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

+1 Exactly!!

Those kids weren't videoing to show it to the police. They were videoing to post it on social media so they could have a viral video and get lots of reactions. They should've been calling 911 instead. In the longer video you can see how gleeful the bystanders seem to be, like this was some sort of entertainment. Of course they're not the same as the criminals, but they should be held accountable, unless they've come forward and turned all of their evidence over to the police.

I think Mooney's message is a warning to anyone who wants to expose problems in MCPS on social media. It is clearly intended to discourage the specific act of taking videos and posting them publicly.

If the problem is that they didn't call 911, everyone present who did not call 911 should also get in trouble. If the problem is the gleeful comments, that should have been made clear in the message. However, the message specifically calls out the act of taking the video and posting it, claiming that it "adds to the disruption" when we all know the real problem is they make MCPS look bad and force them to respond instead of pretending everything is rainbows and unicorns.

+1. It is perfectly legal to video anything happening in public (off school grounds). These kids have all been taught to be “upstanders” and have seen how video of George Floyd, etc., has helped the real truth/justice come to light. That was uploaded to social media, too, btw. The schools tell them to speak up in instances of antisemitism, etc. This is the way to speak up in this day and age. And if the school is using any of those videos (which they say they are) and then punishing/disciplining the kids, it’s super hypocritical and concerning. It added nothing to the disruption. The kids engaging in violence were the sole individuals adding to any disruption. You punish the kids who recorded it, next time no one will record it, you’ll have no way to identify the violent individuals, and no justice for the kids who were attacked. Great thinking, MCPS.