WJ/BCC Fight - No racism please!

[Anonymous]

I have an 8th grader heading to BCC next year.
This event has me very concerned about her safety and well being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has McKnight actually made a statement about this incident? MCPS has been getting a lot of negative press in the Washington Post lately.
Well deserved in my opinion

Nope: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/press/index.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has McKnight actually made a statement about this incident? MCPS has been getting a lot of negative press in the Washington Post lately.
Well deserved in my opinion

People would be absolutely shocked to find out what goes on in mcps. I hope someone does a deep dive expose on these incidents -yes including the damascus rapes- in a major publication. It's shameful what they enable.

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

Silver Spring. Those kids don't live in chevy chase cmon now

so they sit on the metro for almost an hour to go to and from school?

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

Silver Spring. Those kids don't live in chevy chase cmon now

so they sit on the metro for almost an hour to go to and from school?

That's ridiculous. They would take one of the many bus routes to SS.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has a school for students with severe behavior problems. That’s where to send violent youths. No need to expel.

Which one? Twain school was closed years ago, and RICA is the school if you're in juvenile detention.

What I've seen they do now is just transfer the problem to another school. The ringleader of the Damascus locker room gang rape was on his third high school by that point.

Unfortunately that's true. MCPS just transfers violent students from one school to another.

Since Twain closed, there isn't an alternative.

But this particular incident has gotten a lot of attention. How administrators choose to handle it will say a lot.

It really is a moment for MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Alternative "school" is Blair G. Ewing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an 8th grader heading to BCC next year.
This event has me very concerned about her safety and well being.

As you should be. BCC has been ratchet for a while but it seems it's gotten a lot worse.

You should probably see if you can move a few neighborhoods over to get her into Whitman or Churchill or something, as soon as possible. Or even the outer exurbs schools which are a lot more chill

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

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Anonymous wrote:There were some WJ students who left the game and went to get Chipotle. There were BCC students with them. They were surrounded and attacked by other teens. You can see this in the various videos that are out there. Some of the attackers seem to be BCC students (IDs on them, BCC shirts, etc.) but they could have been from other schools. It isn't like BCC kids hate WJ and vice versa. This is about a group where some wore ski masks and attacked another others. At 8:30 on a Friday night. Where all are kids should have felt safe getting a burrito after a football game.

I've seen this mentioned multiple times. There is no evidence that they were from other schools. Deflection.

There's a disease of the mind where people will argue against a mountain of factual evidence just to be contrary. This board is full of that. I was at rhe game. I saw the girl with braids starting problems with the wj fans. The phone chain and social media was blowing up with wj students injured and bcc students as the assailants on friday. The principal 's email makes it clear that wj students were attacked. Mcpc doesn't allow students from other schools into the games. It was absolutely bcc students and there will be arrests. Hopefully there are also Civil lawsuits.

DP. What’s to say the students were not from BCC, did not attend the game, were loitering in Bethesda, and were waiting to attack WJ students?

Are you kidding me? Why do you keep insisting it must be some other kids who committed these crimes?

What is the evidence that the perpetrators are BCC students?

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Anonymous wrote:There were some WJ students who left the game and went to get Chipotle. There were BCC students with them. They were surrounded and attacked by other teens. You can see this in the various videos that are out there. Some of the attackers seem to be BCC students (IDs on them, BCC shirts, etc.) but they could have been from other schools. It isn't like BCC kids hate WJ and vice versa. This is about a group where some wore ski masks and attacked another others. At 8:30 on a Friday night. Where all are kids should have felt safe getting a burrito after a football game.

I've seen this mentioned multiple times. There is no evidence that they were from other schools. Deflection.

There's a disease of the mind where people will argue against a mountain of factual evidence just to be contrary. This board is full of that. I was at rhe game. I saw the girl with braids starting problems with the wj fans. The phone chain and social media was blowing up with wj students injured and bcc students as the assailants on friday. The principal 's email makes it clear that wj students were attacked. Mcpc doesn't allow students from other schools into the games. It was absolutely bcc students and there will be arrests. Hopefully there are also Civil lawsuits.

This incident is a very big deal for MCPS and the BCC principal. The upside of all of this could be a return to violent students actually experiencing consequences.

But if MCPS and BCC drop the ball, I suspect that mayhem will become the norm in Montgomery County schools in the years ahead. And everyone with means will give up and go private, particularly in the BCC district. There's a lot riding on how MCPS and the BCC principle choose to respond to these assaults.

Everything McKnight Says is scripted, edited, double checked not said off the topnof her head and what she said was its on the parents. Passing the buck back onto parents is a symptom of ineffective leadership.

We know the other parents suck. Were not here to go fund family therapy for them. Her job is to keep our kids safe from those bad parents and their kids.
She had the opportunity to say "we will ensure a safe environment for your children and here are the policies we will be changing.." but she said none of that.

Things will change when Instead of waiting for McKnight and the other Enablers to show up, we start doing something about the piss poor school board

She's already allowed our best teachers to be driven out. Now our best students are fleeing. Imagine what the test scores are going to look like in 10 or so years!

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

+1. My kid is a freshman at WJ. He was not at the game either but would have totally walked to find food after the game. What grade were these kids involved in the fight? They looked older in the videos I saw. I asked my kid if the school/ teachers addressed/ talked about the fight with the students today or if his friends were talking about it and he said no.

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Anonymous wrote:Why were the kids at the metro? That doesn’t seem like a typical destination after a game.

You may find this shocking but some people in this county use the metro as a mode of transportation!

Not if they live within a few miles of the Bethesda Metro. The Metro does not go anywhere near Walter Johnson. Where would they be going? Wheaton? -- "the Horror."

A lot of WJ students live near Grosvenor or White Flint.

Or Medical Center -- the area just to the north and northeast of Medical Center is zoned to WJ. Plus the 47 bus, 30 bus, and the J2 bus, all of which run right up the WJ catch area both depart from the Bethesda metro station. My kid wasn't at the game, but if he was, it would be 100% normal for him to stop at Chipotle for a second dinner, and then take one of those buses home. I would not have thought twice about that.

+1. My kid is a freshman at WJ. He was not at the game either but would have totally walked to find food after the game. What grade were these kids involved in the fight? They looked older in the videos I saw. I asked my kid if the school/ teachers addressed/ talked about the fight with the students today or if his friends were talking about it and he said no.

Unbelievable. So much for prioritizing mental health.

[Anonymous]

Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

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Anonymous wrote:There were some WJ students who left the game and went to get Chipotle. There were BCC students with them. They were surrounded and attacked by other teens. You can see this in the various videos that are out there. Some of the attackers seem to be BCC students (IDs on them, BCC shirts, etc.) but they could have been from other schools. It isn't like BCC kids hate WJ and vice versa. This is about a group where some wore ski masks and attacked another others. At 8:30 on a Friday night. Where all are kids should have felt safe getting a burrito after a football game.

I've seen this mentioned multiple times. There is no evidence that they were from other schools. Deflection.

There's a disease of the mind where people will argue against a mountain of factual evidence just to be contrary. This board is full of that. I was at rhe game. I saw the girl with braids starting problems with the wj fans. The phone chain and social media was blowing up with wj students injured and bcc students as the assailants on friday. The principal 's email makes it clear that wj students were attacked. Mcpc doesn't allow students from other schools into the games. It was absolutely bcc students and there will be arrests. Hopefully there are also Civil lawsuits.

This incident is a very big deal for MCPS and the BCC principal. The upside of all of this could be a return to violent students actually experiencing consequences.

But if MCPS and BCC drop the ball, I suspect that mayhem will become the norm in Montgomery County schools in the years ahead. And everyone with means will give up and go private, particularly in the BCC district. There's a lot riding on how MCPS and the BCC principle choose to respond to these assaults.

Everything McKnight Says is scripted, edited, double checked not said off the topnof her head and what she said was its on the parents. Passing the buck back onto parents is a symptom of ineffective leadership.

We know the other parents suck. Were not here to go fund family therapy for them. Her job is to keep our kids safe from those bad parents and their kids.
She had the opportunity to say "we will ensure a safe environment for your children and here are the policies we will be changing.." but she said none of that.

Things will change when Instead of waiting for McKnight and the other Enablers to show up, we start doing something about the piss poor school board

She's already allowed our best teachers to be driven out. Now our best students are fleeing. Imagine what the test scores are going to look like in 10 or so years!

Exactly how is MCPS supposed to be responsible for areas not on school property at times when students aren’t in school? Parents are responsible for their kids at times other than the school day and police are responsible for incidents in the community.

The only thing MCPS can control about this situation is the time of football games and who is let into the gate. There already is a policy from last year about tiers of restrictions to manage attendance (don’t know if they announced yet which tier they’ll use for next game.)