Bottom line who do you see being sworn in as president in 2024?

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Jesus, the boTh SidES BS is thick in here. You want a better option? Stop swinging for the fences every four years and build an actual alternative at the grass roots level. That means town, county, state level. This No Labels BS is nothing more than a stalking horse for the GOP, hoping to split independents and Dems because they know their shrinking base of Angry White Men and their actual policies (to the extent they actually HAVE policies anymore) are about as popular as painful rectal itch.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be either Biden or Trump. Not DeSantis who seems an intentional distraction to make Trump seem more appealing to independent swing voters. I never thought someone could make Trump seem like the lesser of multiple evils, but here we are.

My vote will be with Biden, I'm actually happy with the soft landing the economy is doing compared to other countries and relatively speaking. I fear a Republican will send inflation sky high with tax cuts like throwing gas on a flame (and you KNOW that they will try for tax cuts if elected). That and concern w/ what they will do with abortion law as a woman, healthcare worker, mother of a girl.

I do look forward to 4-years from now when we might actually have fresh faces and perhaps less polarizing candidates.

How is Biden polarizing? What specifically has he done besides be a fairly middle-of-the-road Democrat who wants to reach across the aisle?


My gawd. Clueless.


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I don’t think our political commentary focuses enough on just how unpopular the GOP is now, how degraded their brand is. The majority of Americans don’t want what they are selling and Biden’s agenda has been very good for America.

You can snark all you want but people are feeling the optimism with economy and in the next year the Infrastructure projects will bring more and higher paying jobs (if GOP don’t cut off their noses to spite their faces and kill those projects because you know, windmills cause cancer…).

It’s strange how the GOP just can’t let crazy go. If they came back to reality they might have a chance to win back Presidency and keep the House. But they’re all in on things most Americas DGAF about or worse, are appalled by.


Polling doesn't bear this out. What polling does show is a very evenly divided country with minor leads either direction. Your comment only illustrates how much D partisans hate R and vice versa that they can't see outside their narrow bubbles.


DP: In the end, though, the critical issue is not who responds to polls / who gets polled in the first place / how the polling questions are worded — but who actually votes. Those cohorts are rarely if ever the same.


Look at the midterms. Those are actual election results. Those did not look very good for the GOP.

This is the correct way of looking at it. Polling said we've have a Red Wave. The indicators of a strong Dem turnout were there but corporate media was focused on polling. Those indicators: high small-dollar donations, high turnout in special elections with Dem flips, and of course anger over Roe.

You need to stop looking at polls and deal with the reality that Americans are not divided 50-50. We are much closer to 55 D - 45 and for younger people, they skew heavily toward Dem policies, even if they register unaffiliated. And they are coming into the electorate at a very fast rate while boomers die. And before you scream "Young people don't vote" that is also false. If registered. young people vote at the same levels as their older counterparts. It's the fact that so few are registered that's the problem. The GOP knows this. That is why they make it harder for them to register to vote. Sometimes they can't register until 2 months before their 18 birthday. Who the F remembers that?

Face it, the GOP is a zombie party. The question is how long until they realize it.
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Right, the GOP needs some fresh blood if it is going to match up with kids like Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Sanders, Warren, & Feinstein.
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Anonymous wrote:Right, the GOP needs some fresh blood if it is going to match up with kids like Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Sanders, Warren, & Feinstein.


Just because people are old does not mean they are all the same. Trump is old and an incredibly weak candidate on top of that. He does not attract much beyond his maga base and that is not enough to win
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RNC will not nominate a rapist even though many are sexual deviants themselves. Trump will not be the nominee. DeSantis will not be the nominee. Christie might be. GenZ will not only vote against abortion ban, they’ll sweepingly vote along the my body, my choice line. This includes access to birth control and Plan B. Say what you will about this next Gen, but they are way more politically savvy than you know. Gun violence, misogyny, body autonomy, climate change, socio/racial inequity, LGBTQ rights are their top issues. In addition, they will continue to choose ethical businesses for employment and consumerism. Millennials will follow suit. Less boomers voting. GOP will flatline spectacularly.

If Biden wins, it’ll be autopilot compared to the chaos of this first term. He’s set the foundation.
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Can't see how he is able to increase his tally from 2020 at all. What state do you think he could win in 2024 that he could not get in 2020?


GA, MI, WI and VA.


Virginia? No chance. Youngkin was payback for school boards COVID-cancelling school.


2021 was a fluke. This year will be interesting-I think we’re going to swing back blue for the legislature with all the nonsense Youngkin’s admin has pulled.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be either Biden or Trump. Not DeSantis who seems an intentional distraction to make Trump seem more appealing to independent swing voters. I never thought someone could make Trump seem like the lesser of multiple evils, but here we are.

My vote will be with Biden, I'm actually happy with the soft landing the economy is doing compared to other countries and relatively speaking. I fear a Republican will send inflation sky high with tax cuts like throwing gas on a flame (and you KNOW that they will try for tax cuts if elected). That and concern w/ what they will do with abortion law as a woman, healthcare worker, mother of a girl.

I do look forward to 4-years from now when we might actually have fresh faces and perhaps less polarizing candidates.

How is Biden polarizing? What specifically has he done besides be a fairly middle-of-the-road Democrat who wants to reach across the aisle?


My gawd. Clueless.


+1


I don’t think our political commentary focuses enough on just how unpopular the GOP is now, how degraded their brand is. The majority of Americans don’t want what they are selling and Biden’s agenda has been very good for America.

You can snark all you want but people are feeling the optimism with economy and in the next year the Infrastructure projects will bring more and higher paying jobs (if GOP don’t cut off their noses to spite their faces and kill those projects because you know, windmills cause cancer…).

It’s strange how the GOP just can’t let crazy go. If they came back to reality they might have a chance to win back Presidency and keep the House. But they’re all in on things most Americas DGAF about or worse, are appalled by.


Polling doesn't bear this out. What polling does show is a very evenly divided country with minor leads either direction. Your comment only illustrates how much D partisans hate R and vice versa that they can't see outside their narrow bubbles.


DP: In the end, though, the critical issue is not who responds to polls / who gets polled in the first place / how the polling questions are worded — but who actually votes. Those cohorts are rarely if ever the same.


Look at the midterms. Those are actual election results. Those did not look very good for the GOP.

This is the correct way of looking at it. Polling said we've have a Red Wave. The indicators of a strong Dem turnout were there but corporate media was focused on polling. Those indicators: high small-dollar donations, high turnout in special elections with Dem flips, and of course anger over Roe.

You need to stop looking at polls and deal with the reality that Americans are not divided 50-50. We are much closer to 55 D - 45 and for younger people, they skew heavily toward Dem policies, even if they register unaffiliated. And they are coming into the electorate at a very fast rate while boomers die. And before you scream "Young people don't vote" that is also false. If registered. young people vote at the same levels as their older counterparts. It's the fact that so few are registered that's the problem. The GOP knows this. That is why they make it harder for them to register to vote. Sometimes they can't register until 2 months before their 18 birthday. Who the F remembers that?

Face it, the GOP is a zombie party. The question is how long until they realize it.


LOL. More people voted Republican in the midterms in 2022 than Democrats. The Democrats performed much better than expected but a lot of it came down to how the votes fell in safe seats and marginal seats. Republicans continue to lead in the voter preference for the House.

By the way, latest polls: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/2024/

Most recent one has Trump and Biden tied at 50% each.



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Anonymous wrote:RNC will not nominate a rapist even though many are sexual deviants themselves. Trump will not be the nominee. DeSantis will not be the nominee. Christie might be. GenZ will not only vote against abortion ban, they’ll sweepingly vote along the my body, my choice line. This includes access to birth control and Plan B. Say what you will about this next Gen, but they are way more politically savvy than you know. Gun violence, misogyny, body autonomy, climate change, socio/racial inequity, LGBTQ rights are their top issues. In addition, they will continue to choose ethical businesses for employment and consumerism. Millennials will follow suit. Less boomers voting. GOP will flatline spectacularly.

If Biden wins, it’ll be autopilot compared to the chaos of this first term. He’s set the foundation.


Well, I certainly hope it'll be "autopilot" - he won't be capable of anything more by that time.
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Anonymous wrote:RNC will not nominate a rapist even though many are sexual deviants themselves. Trump will not be the nominee. DeSantis will not be the nominee. Christie might be. GenZ will not only vote against abortion ban, they’ll sweepingly vote along the my body, my choice line. This includes access to birth control and Plan B. Say what you will about this next Gen, but they are way more politically savvy than you know. Gun violence, misogyny, body autonomy, climate change, socio/racial inequity, LGBTQ rights are their top issues. In addition, they will continue to choose ethical businesses for employment and consumerism. Millennials will follow suit. Less boomers voting. GOP will flatline spectacularly.

If Biden wins, it’ll be autopilot compared to the chaos of this first term. He’s set the foundation.


Well, I certainly hope it'll be "autopilot" - he won't be capable of anything more by that time.


He is capable of denying trump a win which is the most important mission facing this country.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be either Biden or Trump. Not DeSantis who seems an intentional distraction to make Trump seem more appealing to independent swing voters. I never thought someone could make Trump seem like the lesser of multiple evils, but here we are.

My vote will be with Biden, I'm actually happy with the soft landing the economy is doing compared to other countries and relatively speaking. I fear a Republican will send inflation sky high with tax cuts like throwing gas on a flame (and you KNOW that they will try for tax cuts if elected). That and concern w/ what they will do with abortion law as a woman, healthcare worker, mother of a girl.

I do look forward to 4-years from now when we might actually have fresh faces and perhaps less polarizing candidates.

How is Biden polarizing? What specifically has he done besides be a fairly middle-of-the-road Democrat who wants to reach across the aisle?


My gawd. Clueless.


+1


I don’t think our political commentary focuses enough on just how unpopular the GOP is now, how degraded their brand is. The majority of Americans don’t want what they are selling and Biden’s agenda has been very good for America.

You can snark all you want but people are feeling the optimism with economy and in the next year the Infrastructure projects will bring more and higher paying jobs (if GOP don’t cut off their noses to spite their faces and kill those projects because you know, windmills cause cancer…).

It’s strange how the GOP just can’t let crazy go. If they came back to reality they might have a chance to win back Presidency and keep the House. But they’re all in on things most Americas DGAF about or worse, are appalled by.


Polling doesn't bear this out. What polling does show is a very evenly divided country with minor leads either direction. Your comment only illustrates how much D partisans hate R and vice versa that they can't see outside their narrow bubbles.


DP: In the end, though, the critical issue is not who responds to polls / who gets polled in the first place / how the polling questions are worded — but who actually votes. Those cohorts are rarely if ever the same.


Look at the midterms. Those are actual election results. Those did not look very good for the GOP.

This is the correct way of looking at it. Polling said we've have a Red Wave. The indicators of a strong Dem turnout were there but corporate media was focused on polling. Those indicators: high small-dollar donations, high turnout in special elections with Dem flips, and of course anger over Roe.

You need to stop looking at polls and deal with the reality that Americans are not divided 50-50. We are much closer to 55 D - 45 and for younger people, they skew heavily toward Dem policies, even if they register unaffiliated. And they are coming into the electorate at a very fast rate while boomers die. And before you scream "Young people don't vote" that is also false. If registered. young people vote at the same levels as their older counterparts. It's the fact that so few are registered that's the problem. The GOP knows this. That is why they make it harder for them to register to vote. Sometimes they can't register until 2 months before their 18 birthday. Who the F remembers that?

Face it, the GOP is a zombie party. The question is how long until they realize it.


LOL. More people voted Republican in the midterms in 2022 than Democrats. The Democrats performed much better than expected but a lot of it came down to how the votes fell in safe seats and marginal seats. Republicans continue to lead in the voter preference for the House.

By the way, latest polls: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/2024/

Most recent one has Trump and Biden tied at 50% each.


The link you provided shows Biden beating Trump in most of the recent polls.
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Anonymous wrote:RNC will not nominate a rapist even though many are sexual deviants themselves. Trump will not be the nominee. DeSantis will not be the nominee. Christie might be. GenZ will not only vote against abortion ban, they’ll sweepingly vote along the my body, my choice line. This includes access to birth control and Plan B. Say what you will about this next Gen, but they are way more politically savvy than you know. Gun violence, misogyny, body autonomy, climate change, socio/racial inequity, LGBTQ rights are their top issues. In addition, they will continue to choose ethical businesses for employment and consumerism. Millennials will follow suit. Less boomers voting. GOP will flatline spectacularly.

If Biden wins, it’ll be autopilot compared to the chaos of this first term. He’s set the foundation.


Well, I certainly hope it'll be "autopilot" - he won't be capable of anything more by that time.


He is capable of denying trump a win which is the most important mission facing this country.


And then what? A Harris presidency? No thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:RNC will not nominate a rapist even though many are sexual deviants themselves. Trump will not be the nominee. DeSantis will not be the nominee. Christie might be. GenZ will not only vote against abortion ban, they’ll sweepingly vote along the my body, my choice line. This includes access to birth control and Plan B. Say what you will about this next Gen, but they are way more politically savvy than you know. Gun violence, misogyny, body autonomy, climate change, socio/racial inequity, LGBTQ rights are their top issues. In addition, they will continue to choose ethical businesses for employment and consumerism. Millennials will follow suit. Less boomers voting. GOP will flatline spectacularly.

If Biden wins, it’ll be autopilot compared to the chaos of this first term. He’s set the foundation.


Well, I certainly hope it'll be "autopilot" - he won't be capable of anything more by that time.


He is capable of denying trump a win which is the most important mission facing this country.


And then what? A Harris presidency? No thank you.


Ok. Please please nominate trump. Ihe is such a winner candidate and I am sure he will do as amazing as last time around.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be either Biden or Trump. Not DeSantis who seems an intentional distraction to make Trump seem more appealing to independent swing voters. I never thought someone could make Trump seem like the lesser of multiple evils, but here we are.

My vote will be with Biden, I'm actually happy with the soft landing the economy is doing compared to other countries and relatively speaking. I fear a Republican will send inflation sky high with tax cuts like throwing gas on a flame (and you KNOW that they will try for tax cuts if elected). That and concern w/ what they will do with abortion law as a woman, healthcare worker, mother of a girl.

I do look forward to 4-years from now when we might actually have fresh faces and perhaps less polarizing candidates.

How is Biden polarizing? What specifically has he done besides be a fairly middle-of-the-road Democrat who wants to reach across the aisle?


My gawd. Clueless.


+1


I don’t think our political commentary focuses enough on just how unpopular the GOP is now, how degraded their brand is. The majority of Americans don’t want what they are selling and Biden’s agenda has been very good for America.

You can snark all you want but people are feeling the optimism with economy and in the next year the Infrastructure projects will bring more and higher paying jobs (if GOP don’t cut off their noses to spite their faces and kill those projects because you know, windmills cause cancer…).

It’s strange how the GOP just can’t let crazy go. If they came back to reality they might have a chance to win back Presidency and keep the House. But they’re all in on things most Americas DGAF about or worse, are appalled by.


Polling doesn't bear this out. What polling does show is a very evenly divided country with minor leads either direction. Your comment only illustrates how much D partisans hate R and vice versa that they can't see outside their narrow bubbles.

Agree 100%. The political information bubbles are difficult to escape and most of us are in them.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be either Biden or Trump. Not DeSantis who seems an intentional distraction to make Trump seem more appealing to independent swing voters. I never thought someone could make Trump seem like the lesser of multiple evils, but here we are.

My vote will be with Biden, I'm actually happy with the soft landing the economy is doing compared to other countries and relatively speaking. I fear a Republican will send inflation sky high with tax cuts like throwing gas on a flame (and you KNOW that they will try for tax cuts if elected). That and concern w/ what they will do with abortion law as a woman, healthcare worker, mother of a girl.

I do look forward to 4-years from now when we might actually have fresh faces and perhaps less polarizing candidates.

How is Biden polarizing? What specifically has he done besides be a fairly middle-of-the-road Democrat who wants to reach across the aisle?


My gawd. Clueless.


+1


I don’t think our political commentary focuses enough on just how unpopular the GOP is now, how degraded their brand is. The majority of Americans don’t want what they are selling and Biden’s agenda has been very good for America.

You can snark all you want but people are feeling the optimism with economy and in the next year the Infrastructure projects will bring more and higher paying jobs (if GOP don’t cut off their noses to spite their faces and kill those projects because you know, windmills cause cancer…).

It’s strange how the GOP just can’t let crazy go. If they came back to reality they might have a chance to win back Presidency and keep the House. But they’re all in on things most Americas DGAF about or worse, are appalled by.


Polling doesn't bear this out. What polling does show is a very evenly divided country with minor leads either direction. Your comment only illustrates how much D partisans hate R and vice versa that they can't see outside their narrow bubbles.


DP: In the end, though, the critical issue is not who responds to polls / who gets polled in the first place / how the polling questions are worded — but who actually votes. Those cohorts are rarely if ever the same.


Look at the midterms. Those are actual election results. Those did not look very good for the GOP.

This is the correct way of looking at it. Polling said we've have a Red Wave. The indicators of a strong Dem turnout were there but corporate media was focused on polling. Those indicators: high small-dollar donations, high turnout in special elections with Dem flips, and of course anger over Roe.

You need to stop looking at polls and deal with the reality that Americans are not divided 50-50. We are much closer to 55 D - 45 and for younger people, they skew heavily toward Dem policies, even if they register unaffiliated. And they are coming into the electorate at a very fast rate while boomers die. And before you scream "Young people don't vote" that is also false. If registered. young people vote at the same levels as their older counterparts. It's the fact that so few are registered that's the problem. The GOP knows this. That is why they make it harder for them to register to vote. Sometimes they can't register until 2 months before their 18 birthday. Who the F remembers that?

Face it, the GOP is a zombie party. The question is how long until they realize it.


LOL. More people voted Republican in the midterms in 2022 than Democrats. The Democrats performed much better than expected but a lot of it came down to how the votes fell in safe seats and marginal seats. Republicans continue to lead in the voter preference for the House.

By the way, latest polls: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/2024/

Most recent one has Trump and Biden tied at 50% each.




Oh boy, so exciting. Trump and Biden tied at 50%. Aren't we just so fortunate to have this awesome match-up once again. Battle of Titans 2.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be either Biden or Trump. Not DeSantis who seems an intentional distraction to make Trump seem more appealing to independent swing voters. I never thought someone could make Trump seem like the lesser of multiple evils, but here we are.

My vote will be with Biden, I'm actually happy with the soft landing the economy is doing compared to other countries and relatively speaking. I fear a Republican will send inflation sky high with tax cuts like throwing gas on a flame (and you KNOW that they will try for tax cuts if elected). That and concern w/ what they will do with abortion law as a woman, healthcare worker, mother of a girl.

I do look forward to 4-years from now when we might actually have fresh faces and perhaps less polarizing candidates.

How is Biden polarizing? What specifically has he done besides be a fairly middle-of-the-road Democrat who wants to reach across the aisle?


My gawd. Clueless.


+1


I don’t think our political commentary focuses enough on just how unpopular the GOP is now, how degraded their brand is. The majority of Americans don’t want what they are selling and Biden’s agenda has been very good for America.

You can snark all you want but people are feeling the optimism with economy and in the next year the Infrastructure projects will bring more and higher paying jobs (if GOP don’t cut off their noses to spite their faces and kill those projects because you know, windmills cause cancer…).

It’s strange how the GOP just can’t let crazy go. If they came back to reality they might have a chance to win back Presidency and keep the House. But they’re all in on things most Americas DGAF about or worse, are appalled by.


Polling doesn't bear this out. What polling does show is a very evenly divided country with minor leads either direction. Your comment only illustrates how much D partisans hate R and vice versa that they can't see outside their narrow bubbles.


DP: In the end, though, the critical issue is not who responds to polls / who gets polled in the first place / how the polling questions are worded — but who actually votes. Those cohorts are rarely if ever the same.


Look at the midterms. Those are actual election results. Those did not look very good for the GOP.

This is the correct way of looking at it. Polling said we've have a Red Wave. The indicators of a strong Dem turnout were there but corporate media was focused on polling. Those indicators: high small-dollar donations, high turnout in special elections with Dem flips, and of course anger over Roe.

You need to stop looking at polls and deal with the reality that Americans are not divided 50-50. We are much closer to 55 D - 45 and for younger people, they skew heavily toward Dem policies, even if they register unaffiliated. And they are coming into the electorate at a very fast rate while boomers die. And before you scream "Young people don't vote" that is also false. If registered. young people vote at the same levels as their older counterparts. It's the fact that so few are registered that's the problem. The GOP knows this. That is why they make it harder for them to register to vote. Sometimes they can't register until 2 months before their 18 birthday. Who the F remembers that?

Face it, the GOP is a zombie party. The question is how long until they realize it.


LOL. More people voted Republican in the midterms in 2022 than Democrats. The Democrats performed much better than expected but a lot of it came down to how the votes fell in safe seats and marginal seats. Republicans continue to lead in the voter preference for the House.

By the way, latest polls: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/2024/

Most recent one has Trump and Biden tied at 50% each.


Yes more people voted R but not many. Y’all were screaming RED WAVE!, more like a trickle. Where is counts, in the battleground states, Dems are crushing it. Who cares about Arkansas, the Dakotas, Missouri (although I really wish we could unseat Hawley). Biden will crush Trump. And it will be Trump, the GOP refused the MANY off-ramps. Maybe losing a third times is a charm?
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