Military recruiting crisis.

[Anonymous]

This is not an American problem. It is across the 5 eyes and most Western European countries. Only ones who see to be solid are Eastern European and they do not have volunteer service for the most part.

Young’s generation lives off mobile devices; no idea how to actually make them or fix a sw problem- forget about shouldering a weapon.

That’s not their thing. They are pretty much content to be ruled by China or whomever- as long as insta and tic tok work they are fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP your summary doesn’t match the article.

Second, I’m a liberal whose father served in the Korean War in the Air Force. I took the ASVAB and did well. The only job they had for me was medic. This was in the late 80s during the draw down. I ended up not enlisting. The Gulf War happened 6 months later.

Why I am against my daughter enlisting. I work with many former military. It doesn’t seem like a welcoming place for women. The sexual assault numbers are terrible and it’s a hostile environment for women. I also one who associates the military with the Insurrection (as the article mentioned) and the 3%, Proud Boys, and Oath Keepers. I see it as a proxy for the White Supremacy/Neo Nazi movement…Especially when there is any sort of backlash toward DEI the military undertakes.

Here's what you've done to the military:

You've promoted single motherhood far and wide. It's working. Just look at how many single women are raising boys. They don't turn out the same as a two parent family.

You've pushed tbe idea of toxic masculinity causing self-doubt in boys to men.

You've turned the military into a social experiment. That comes from the pentagon.

You've also turned it into a paper pushing exercise. Death by powerpoint. Plus, you want an inquiry for every fire fight. Seriously, you want to judge every shoot as good or bad shoot (in the heat of battle) and then punish according to that. It's ridiculous.

You have no idea of the negative reinforcement you send by your actions. Oh, and BTW, more money and benefits doesn't solve this. You can't buy your way out of al tbat messaging. You are so engrossed in pacifism at this point, who the heck would want to serve.

No pledge of allegiance, a pride flag in place of the U.S. flag and telling everyone everyday we're evil colonialists. Of course you can't make the recruiting numbers. We are a joke of a nation today.

Ah yes because the military hasn’t caused the breakup of any marriages/contributed to single motherhood. Military marriages fail at twice the rate of civilian marriages. And what penalty do soldiers face for having children out of wedlock again?

Astonishing lack of self awareness— you’re doing this to yourself.

What kind of "penalties" do you want soldiers to face for having children out of wedlock? Should only soldiers face such penalties or should all government workers face penalties? Or just every US resident in general?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Vast majority with warrior skills are masculine. Masculinity is highly correlated with conservative values. Military becoming hostile to conservative values. Warriors don’t see the military as prestigious anymore.

WRONG. And guess what, you wanna see hostile, I'll pit my warrior skills against your "highly correlated conservative" bullshit any day, any hour. Put up or shut up. Stop making excuses for your tired, lard-assed southern boys who are all hat, no cattle, and if they even could in the first place, can no longer fight. Tacticool poseurs with AR's and trucks with "don't tread on me" plates don't cut it and frankly you insult me and my brothers and sisters who actually served and sacrificed.

Conservatives are stronger

https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/aarhus-university-ucsb-research-on-mens-physical-strength-and-ideology/

Conservatives are more attractive

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/10/conservatives-really-are-better-looking-research-says/

Conservatives are more fertile

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advantage

Military veterans are highly conservative

https://news.gallup.com/poll/118684/military-veterans-ages-tend-republican.aspx#:~:text=Political%20Differences&text=Still%2C%20the%20current%20analysis%20shows,those%20who%20are%20not%20veterans.


Sorry but science agrees with the statement

Maybe some of this was true 20 or 30 years ago but young conservatives of today are mostly just whiny, pasty, pudgy incels who couldn't get laid or throw hands if their lives depended on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Vast majority with warrior skills are masculine. Masculinity is highly correlated with conservative values. Military becoming hostile to conservative values. Warriors don’t see the military as prestigious anymore.

WRONG. And guess what, you wanna see hostile, I'll pit my warrior skills against your "highly correlated conservative" bullshit any day, any hour. Put up or shut up. Stop making excuses for your tired, lard-assed southern boys who are all hat, no cattle, and if they even could in the first place, can no longer fight. Tacticool poseurs with AR's and trucks with "don't tread on me" plates don't cut it and frankly you insult me and my brothers and sisters who actually served and sacrificed.

Conservatives are stronger

https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/aarhus-university-ucsb-research-on-mens-physical-strength-and-ideology/

Conservatives are more attractive

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/10/conservatives-really-are-better-looking-research-says/

Conservatives are more fertile

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advantage

Military veterans are highly conservative

https://news.gallup.com/poll/118684/military-veterans-ages-tend-republican.aspx#:~:text=Political%20Differences&text=Still%2C%20the%20current%20analysis%20shows,those%20who%20are%20not%20veterans.


Sorry but science agrees with the statement

Maybe some of this was true 20 or 30 years ago but young conservatives of today are mostly just whiny, pasty, pudgy incels who couldn't get laid or throw hands if their lives depended on it.

Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Conservatives are stronger, happier, more attractive and fertile. It makes sense they don’t like community systems because they can support themselves. It’s the weak, less attractive and insecure that demand to be taken care of by society and vote liberal.

Conservatives are the warriors of consequence and the go - to strong when break downs or war occurs.

[Anonymous]

Let the Supreme Court figure it out they want to make every decision involving our lives so they can take a stab at this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP your summary doesn’t match the article.

Second, I’m a liberal whose father served in the Korean War in the Air Force. I took the ASVAB and did well. The only job they had for me was medic. This was in the late 80s during the draw down. I ended up not enlisting. The Gulf War happened 6 months later.

Why I am against my daughter enlisting. I work with many former military. It doesn’t seem like a welcoming place for women. The sexual assault numbers are terrible and it’s a hostile environment for women. I also one who associates the military with the Insurrection (as the article mentioned) and the 3%, Proud Boys, and Oath Keepers. I see it as a proxy for the White Supremacy/Neo Nazi movement…Especially when there is any sort of backlash toward DEI the military undertakes.

Here's what you've done to the military:

You've promoted single motherhood far and wide. It's working. Just look at how many single women are raising boys. They don't turn out the same as a two parent family.

You've pushed tbe idea of toxic masculinity causing self-doubt in boys to men.

You've turned the military into a social experiment. That comes from the pentagon.

You've also turned it into a paper pushing exercise. Death by powerpoint. Plus, you want an inquiry for every fire fight. Seriously, you want to judge every shoot as good or bad shoot (in the heat of battle) and then punish according to that. It's ridiculous.

You have no idea of the negative reinforcement you send by your actions. Oh, and BTW, more money and benefits doesn't solve this. You can't buy your way out of al tbat messaging. You are so engrossed in pacifism at this point, who the heck would want to serve.

No pledge of allegiance, a pride flag in place of the U.S. flag and telling everyone everyday we're evil colonialists. Of course you can't make the recruiting numbers. We are a joke of a nation today.

Ah yes because the military hasn’t caused the breakup of any marriages/contributed to single motherhood. Military marriages fail at twice the rate of civilian marriages. And what penalty do soldiers face for having children out of wedlock again?

Astonishing lack of self awareness— you’re doing this to yourself.

What kind of "penalties" do you want soldiers to face for having children out of wedlock? Should only soldiers face such penalties or should all government workers face penalties? Or just every US resident in general?

The poster I was quoting said that single parenthood is harming the military. If that’s the case shouldn’t the military have an interest in not contributing to their own downfall? Do whatever you do to soldiers for sabotage.

Personally I think this whole question is faux outrage but since the PP is so concerned by the damage done by single parenthood I’m sure he wants to find ways to avoid it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are stronger, happier, more attractive and fertile. It makes sense they don’t like community systems because they can support themselves. It’s the weak, less attractive and insecure that demand to be taken care of by society and vote liberal.

Conservatives are the warriors of consequence and the go - to strong when break downs or war occurs.

Lol

[Anonymous]

The military is like a machine. The machine doesn't worry about the children left without a parent who was killed in combat.

[Anonymous]

imo it’s door kicking that’s being tough to get recruited for

It’s still very competitive within the natsec space to get a nsc placement.

The numbers are down for applicants to the foreign service but it’s still quite competitive to get in.

Same at cia.

Cannon fodder is wising up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The military is like a machine. The machine doesn't worry about the children left without a parent who was killed in combat.

I'm not going to read the entire thread because military threads are always full of bizarre comments.

Like this one. You can and will be kicked out for having a child without a "family care plan" that designates a willing caretaker for kids in the event of deployment. It has to have all the appropriate legal documents (power of attorney etc). They do not leave infants abandoned in their crib, ffs. And, it does provide life insurance for kids left behind from people being killed in combat.

What people don't really understand is that we have very few people killed on deployments now because we have better medical care for combat wounds or massive injuries. Tbh, a soldier getting their legs blown off in combat has a better survival rate than a person getting their legs cut off in an accident in the states. We do not have the medical items here that the military has there. This has increased costs significantly because people who would have normally died now live and have a lifetime of medical care ahead of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are stronger, happier, more attractive and fertile. It makes sense they don’t like community systems because they can support themselves. It’s the weak, less attractive and insecure that demand to be taken care of by society and vote liberal.

Conservatives are the warriors of consequence and the go - to strong when break downs or war occurs.

Still the fact: Maybe some of this was true 20 or 30 years ago but young conservatives of today are mostly just whiny, pasty, pudgy incels who couldn't get laid or throw hands if their lives depended on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are stronger, happier, more attractive and fertile. It makes sense they don’t like community systems because they can support themselves. It’s the weak, less attractive and insecure that demand to be taken care of by society and vote liberal.

Conservatives are the warriors of consequence and the go - to strong when break downs or war occurs.

Still the fact: Maybe some of this was true 20 or 30 years ago but young conservatives of today are mostly just whiny, pasty, pudgy incels who couldn't get laid or throw hands if their lives depended on it.

Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are stronger, happier, more attractive and fertile. It makes sense they don’t like community systems because they can support themselves. It’s the weak, less attractive and insecure that demand to be taken care of by society and vote liberal.

Conservatives are the warriors of consequence and the go - to strong when break downs or war occurs.

Still the fact: Maybe some of this was true 20 or 30 years ago but young conservatives of today are mostly just whiny, pasty, pudgy incels who couldn't get laid or throw hands if their lives depended on it.

Most young people of all political bents are too overweight, too poorly educated, and/or too criminal/drug afflicted to get into the military. This isn't an "own." It's a disgrace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are stronger, happier, more attractive and fertile. It makes sense they don’t like community systems because they can support themselves. It’s the weak, less attractive and insecure that demand to be taken care of by society and vote liberal.

Conservatives are the warriors of consequence and the go - to strong when break downs or war occurs.

Still the fact: Maybe some of this was true 20 or 30 years ago but young conservatives of today are mostly just whiny, pasty, pudgy incels who couldn't get laid or throw hands if their lives depended on it.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html

Sure seems like you're wrong, or are West Virginia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee more liberal than people think and New England, California, Washington State, Colorado, and DC more conservative?