We chose not to redshirt DS without considering the long-term consequences:

[Anonymous]

The thing is no one knows what would have been had they made the other choice. Maybe they still would not have gotten that orchestra spot. Maybe math would still be hard . I have a friend whose son was 360 days older than DD but they read shirted and we did not do they were in the same grade. For a few years I heard about how he was not being challenged ( he did k 2 times private then public) but over time it evened out. He was a successful HS student as was my daughter. I do not think he would have been any different if he went on time.

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Anonymous wrote:You must not live in the dmv because with a Nov birthday he wouldn’t have we started anywhere around here.
If you live in another state where Dec is the cut off(?) he wouldn’t have been the youngest, there would be other Oct Nov Dec birthdays too.

Only any and CT have late Dec cut off to be 5, thus you “start” as a 4 yo.

DC area and everywhere else has Sept 1 age 5 cut off.

Virginia is September 30th

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really good points and track with what I've seen for other kids with late summer/fall birthdays.

Parents get so excited about their 4 year old being ready for kindergarten and not having to pay for another year of nanny or daycare, but they forget the implications down the line in high school and college.

It’s not so much about paying for an extra year but how would your child feel being 18 all of senior year when most peers are in college. I have an older kid and cannot imagine holding them back, especially academically as they are in advanced classes.

The same as the kid whose birthday is Oct 1 I expect? The wide majority of kids are 18 in senior year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it's better to be the oldest, but not for any of the reasons you mentioned. My parents have been cut off by my brother for not redshirting him. I have a March birthday, so I was already on the older end by default. My brother, however, has a December birthday, and our parents sent him to Kindergarten when he was 4. He was fine academically, but socially, he suffered greatly. Anytime our parents need help with something, it's all on me because my brother always refuses to help, his reasoning always being something along the lines of, "Why should I care about their needs? They evidently didn't care about my needs when they sent me off to Kindergarten so young."

I skipped kindergarten, started first grade when I was five, and didn't grow up to be a soft little chud like your brother.

It's not that your kids will necessarily resent you if you make them the youngest. It's that they won't resent you if you make them the oldest.

Are people really this neurotic? I’m a summer birthday and I skipped a grade. I graduated HS a month before I turned 17. I had a great time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really good points and track with what I've seen for other kids with late summer/fall birthdays.

Parents get so excited about their 4 year old being ready for kindergarten and not having to pay for another year of nanny or daycare, but they forget the implications down the line in high school and college.

It’s not so much about paying for an extra year but how would your child feel being 18 all of senior year when most peers are in college. I have an older kid and cannot imagine holding them back, especially academically as they are in advanced classes.

The same as the kid whose birthday is Oct 1 I expect? The wide majority of kids are 18 in senior year.

Uh, no. High school graduations are usually in May or June, and July 2nd is the middle day of a non-leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. This means the median kid in terms of age turns 18 the July after they graduate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it's better to be the oldest, but not for any of the reasons you mentioned. My parents have been cut off by my brother for not redshirting him. I have a March birthday, so I was already on the older end by default. My brother, however, has a December birthday, and our parents sent him to Kindergarten when he was 4. He was fine academically, but socially, he suffered greatly. Anytime our parents need help with something, it's all on me because my brother always refuses to help, his reasoning always being something along the lines of, "Why should I care about their needs? They evidently didn't care about my needs when they sent me off to Kindergarten so young."

I skipped kindergarten, started first grade when I was five, and didn't grow up to be a soft little chud like your brother.

It's not that your kids will necessarily resent you if you make them the youngest. It's that they won't resent you if you make them the oldest.

Are people really this neurotic? I’m a summer birthday and I skipped a grade. I graduated HS a month before I turned 17. I had a great time.

Math must not be your strong suit. They may resent you held them back, especially if they did well in school. I couldn't imagine holding my kid back whose aready on the most advanced track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it's better to be the oldest, but not for any of the reasons you mentioned. My parents have been cut off by my brother for not redshirting him. I have a March birthday, so I was already on the older end by default. My brother, however, has a December birthday, and our parents sent him to Kindergarten when he was 4. He was fine academically, but socially, he suffered greatly. Anytime our parents need help with something, it's all on me because my brother always refuses to help, his reasoning always being something along the lines of, "Why should I care about their needs? They evidently didn't care about my needs when they sent me off to Kindergarten so young."

I skipped kindergarten, started first grade when I was five, and didn't grow up to be a soft little chud like your brother.

It's not that your kids will necessarily resent you if you make them the youngest. It's that they won't resent you if you make them the oldest.

Are people really this neurotic? I’m a summer birthday and I skipped a grade. I graduated HS a month before I turned 17. I had a great time.

It sounds like you’re on the autism spectrum, which would explain why you were smart enough to skip a grade. However, it would also mean you were too socially isolated for things like being the last to drive bother you so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really good points and track with what I've seen for other kids with late summer/fall birthdays.

Parents get so excited about their 4 year old being ready for kindergarten and not having to pay for another year of nanny or daycare, but they forget the implications down the line in high school and college.

It’s not so much about paying for an extra year but how would your child feel being 18 all of senior year when most peers are in college. I have an older kid and cannot imagine holding them back, especially academically as they are in advanced classes.

The same as the kid whose birthday is Oct 1 I expect? The wide majority of kids are 18 in senior year.

Uh, no. High school graduations are usually in May or June, and July 2nd is the middle day of a non-leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. This means the median kid in terms of age turns 18 the July after they graduate.

Except that birthdays are not evenly distributed throughout the year. They cluster in September, and in places with a 1 Sept cutoff that means the oldest kids are disproportionately represented.

Also how old are you? HS graduation hasn't been in May around here in ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really good points and track with what I've seen for other kids with late summer/fall birthdays.

Parents get so excited about their 4 year old being ready for kindergarten and not having to pay for another year of nanny or daycare, but they forget the implications down the line in high school and college.

It’s not so much about paying for an extra year but how would your child feel being 18 all of senior year when most peers are in college. I have an older kid and cannot imagine holding them back, especially academically as they are in advanced classes.

The same as the kid whose birthday is Oct 1 I expect? The wide majority of kids are 18 in senior year.

Uh, no. High school graduations are usually in May or June, and July 2nd is the middle day of a non-leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. This means the median kid in terms of age turns 18 the July after they graduate.

The profound lack of basic math skills demonstrated by anti-redshirt posters is always something to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really good points and track with what I've seen for other kids with late summer/fall birthdays.

Parents get so excited about their 4 year old being ready for kindergarten and not having to pay for another year of nanny or daycare, but they forget the implications down the line in high school and college.

It’s not so much about paying for an extra year but how would your child feel being 18 all of senior year when most peers are in college. I have an older kid and cannot imagine holding them back, especially academically as they are in advanced classes.

Yo lady my September and November birthday kids will be 18 all senior year. Take your outdated information and shove it. Most of their peers are right there with them.

If they are as classy as you they won't go anywhere in life so it doesn't really matter when they drop out of high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Had a friend who started her daughter early--she was "ready." Saw her ten years later. She said, "why didn't anyone tell me about high school?" Each child is different, but 4 year olds do not belong in K..

Exact same thing happened with a former colleague of mine. She put her October born daughter in early because she was "ready" and paid for it dearly in high school when the age difference caught up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Because of where we lived at the time, ours started kindergarten at 4 despite turning 5 in late November, and never had any problems. This sounds specific to your son, not all boys born at the same time.

Agree.
My late November boy did really well at Stuyvesant High School and seems on track to graduate from the LSE in 3 years.
He really seems to be enjoying his first year there.
The only hitch being that he couldn't open an English bank account because he started school as a minor. He couldn't pop out to the pub with his mates for the same reason but they serve ale at his dorm on weekends so he gets to have a drink with classmates that way.
And oh, he wasn't allowed to have a roommate because a minor is not allowed to room with an adult there. So the poor child HAD to get a single his first year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it's better to be the oldest, but not for any of the reasons you mentioned. My parents have been cut off by my brother for not redshirting him. I have a March birthday, so I was already on the older end by default. My brother, however, has a December birthday, and our parents sent him to Kindergarten when he was 4. He was fine academically, but socially, he suffered greatly. Anytime our parents need help with something, it's all on me because my brother always refuses to help, his reasoning always being something along the lines of, "Why should I care about their needs? They evidently didn't care about my needs when they sent me off to Kindergarten so young."

I skipped kindergarten, started first grade when I was five, and didn't grow up to be a soft little chud like your brother.

It's not that your kids will necessarily resent you if you make them the youngest. It's that they won't resent you if you make them the oldest.

Are people really this neurotic? I’m a summer birthday and I skipped a grade. I graduated HS a month before I turned 17. I had a great time.

It sounds like you’re on the autism spectrum, which would explain why you were smart enough to skip a grade. However, it would also mean you were too socially isolated for things like being the last to drive bother you so much.

Really? Look we know you have to justify your choice to hold back your child to make it easier on you but no need to insult someone smart. Why are you so threatened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really good points and track with what I've seen for other kids with late summer/fall birthdays.

Parents get so excited about their 4 year old being ready for kindergarten and not having to pay for another year of nanny or daycare, but they forget the implications down the line in high school and college.

It’s not so much about paying for an extra year but how would your child feel being 18 all of senior year when most peers are in college. I have an older kid and cannot imagine holding them back, especially academically as they are in advanced classes.

The same as the kid whose birthday is Oct 1 I expect? The wide majority of kids are 18 in senior year.

Uh, no. High school graduations are usually in May or June, and July 2nd is the middle day of a non-leap year and the first day on the later half of a leap year. This means the median kid in terms of age turns 18 the July after they graduate.

Except that birthdays are not evenly distributed throughout the year. They cluster in September, and in places with a 1 Sept cutoff that means the oldest kids are disproportionately represented.


Hs graduation is usually in may a few weeks before the end of the school year.
Also how old are you? HS graduation hasn't been in May around here in ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it's better to be the oldest, but not for any of the reasons you mentioned. My parents have been cut off by my brother for not redshirting him. I have a March birthday, so I was already on the older end by default. My brother, however, has a December birthday, and our parents sent him to Kindergarten when he was 4. He was fine academically, but socially, he suffered greatly. Anytime our parents need help with something, it's all on me because my brother always refuses to help, his reasoning always being something along the lines of, "Why should I care about their needs? They evidently didn't care about my needs when they sent me off to Kindergarten so young."

I skipped kindergarten, started first grade when I was five, and didn't grow up to be a soft little chud like your brother.

It's not that your kids will necessarily resent you if you make them the youngest. It's that they won't resent you if you make them the oldest.

Are people really this neurotic? I’m a summer birthday and I skipped a grade. I graduated HS a month before I turned 17. I had a great time.

Math must not be your strong suit. They may resent you held them back, especially if they did well in school. I couldn't imagine holding my kid back whose already on the most advanced track.

Kids who are ready to go should go, how is there any argument over this? Kids who are immature for their age and can’t sit still should hold back a year.

There really aren’t advanced tracks this young. Some kids can read grades ahead or they go to a math school but that’s not school is. They will blend in the class and if they keep up their advanced work they’ll take advanced classes soon enough.