Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

You are overestimating the importance of and the difference between those scores. 1450 is the 96th percentile, which is certainly worthy of Harvard. You cross the 1400 threshold, and then it's "what else ya got?" Scores are a tiny part of the equation, and they are not viewed in a force-rank fashion: high enough is enough; higher than enough isn't better.

Non-ALDC Harvard admits are 99+%ile in something, not merely 96%ile. That tier is <40K admits out of 4million high school graduates.

1450 and majoring in art or music performance?

1450 and majoring in STEM? No way.

750 math, 700 reading and doing just fine thanks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

And that's OK. Really. It is. Stop viewing elite college as some brass ring that can only be obtained by students with the very best stats. Especially when Georgia Tech is pretty elite.

No, it's not OK.
You can view elite colleges however you like.
Don't force your view upon others.
We need transparent and fair system.

No we don’t. Elite college is not some public good to which you are entitled an equal shot of attending.

Then I don't want a dime of my tax dollar to go to those institutions if they discriminate and are not transparent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

And that's OK. Really. It is. Stop viewing elite college as some brass ring that can only be obtained by students with the very best stats. Especially when Georgia Tech is pretty elite.

No, it's not OK.
You can view elite colleges however you like.
Don't force your view upon others.
We need transparent and fair system.

No we don’t. Elite college is not some public good to which you are entitled an equal shot of attending.

Then I don't want a dime of my tax dollar to go to those institutions if they discriminate and are not transparent

They also need to pay tax

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

You are overestimating the importance of and the difference between those scores. 1450 is the 96th percentile, which is certainly worthy of Harvard. You cross the 1400 threshold, and then it's "what else ya got?" Scores are a tiny part of the equation, and they are not viewed in a force-rank fashion: high enough is enough; higher than enough isn't better.

LMFAO yea right 1400 is high enough threshold, yet they expect an earthshattering something else the kids got

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

if that's all you can come back with

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

if that's all you can come back with

I was being literal…like WTF are you trying to say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

Why you don't like clear rule and transparency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

Why you don't like clear rule and transparency?

I like clear rules and transparency…to what you are referring, I have no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

Why you don't like clear rule and transparency?

I like clear rules and transparency…to what you are referring, I have no idea.

Ok good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

Why you don't like clear rule and transparency?

I like clear rules and transparency…to what you are referring, I have no idea.

Ok good.

This conversation is going nowhere…much like your post. I may very well agree with you, but you posted something nonsensical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

Why you don't like clear rule and transparency?

I like clear rules and transparency…to what you are referring, I have no idea.

Ok good.

This conversation is going nowhere…much like your post. I may very well agree with you, but you posted something nonsensical.

It's ok if you didn't understand something. I'm sure there are others who understood it.
Important point was you agreed that clear rule and transparency is important.
Current US system significantly lacks those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

Then leave fool
Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

This is gibberish…please, figure out how to write clearly and then try again. Maybe load it into chatgpt and have it produce something intelligible.

Why you don't like clear rule and transparency?

I like clear rules and transparency…to what you are referring, I have no idea.

Ok good.

This conversation is going nowhere…much like your post. I may very well agree with you, but you posted something nonsensical.

It's ok if you didn't understand something. I'm sure there are others who understood it.
Important point was you agreed that clear rule and transparency is important.
Current US system significantly lacks those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His attitude alone sends him to the rejection pile. He sounds incredibly entitled. No one said that academics alone determine admissions. Harvard wants successful people; this guy ain’t one of them.

Also, no one said SATs somehow quantify academics. That is just one metric. I agree about entitled. He had test blind and race blind schools on his reject list. How is Berkeley rejecting him for Affirmative Action? Also, what is the rest of his app like? There are many means of merit. He just had one. One that many other students have.