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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

He was barely working at the start of the show, which is why they did the show, for money. It was something then argued about on the show. He was unhelpful with the kids and not helping financially. Stop only blaming only the mom. It’s a tired, played out narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

He was barely working at the start of the show, which is why they did the show, for money. It was something then argued about on the show. He was unhelpful with the kids and not helping financially. Stop only blaming only the mom. It’s a tired, played out narrative.

She didn’t want him working a lot as they had so many kids. She wasn’t working either. We only see her side. The show got a gag order so he couldn’t talk.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

She should have been paying him child support.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don’t have a special needs child with severe emotional problems, you just can’t understand. I’m not a Kate fan—I think putting your kids on reality TV is proof of bad parenting—but I barely have time to help my survival needs child and I only have two. There was NO WAY she could deal with seven other kids. It’s easy to parent SPED kids until you have one; then it’s damn near impossible.

How did Collin enlist in the military if he has such severe emotional problems? 🤔 I thought that was disqualifying.

Has he enlisted or just talked about it?

Yes, he enlisted in USMC. Sounds like he's headed to Parris Island soon.

MC is much more flexible. Air Force and Navy are much more picky.

Still. you really think "A special needs child with severe emotional problems", in pp's words, who was apparently so bad that it necessitated years at a residential treatment facility and his mother and siblings to cut him off, would be accepted into the USMC?

Yes, when the mother is Kate and she was probably making some of it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
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Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
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Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
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Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
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Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
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Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.

honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes

Great moms don’t smack kids, especially young kids across the face.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

He was barely working at the start of the show, which is why they did the show, for money. It was something then argued about on the show. He was unhelpful with the kids and not helping financially. Stop only blaming only the mom. It’s a tired, played out narrative.

She didn’t want him working a lot as they had so many kids. She wasn’t working either. We only see her side. The show got a gag order so he couldn’t talk.

np here, You really didn't watch from the start. Kate was working as a nurse a couple of shifts a week after they were born. She did all the baby work with help from family and friends. IIRC she had benefits from her job so it was helpful for her to keep working. Jon was useless. He couldn't keep a job or keep up with the house. Some of the early episodes showed him trying to get a job.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

He was barely working at the start of the show, which is why they did the show, for money. It was something then argued about on the show. He was unhelpful with the kids and not helping financially. Stop only blaming only the mom. It’s a tired, played out narrative.

She didn’t want him working a lot as they had so many kids. She wasn’t working either. We only see her side. The show got a gag order so he couldn’t talk.

np here, You really didn't watch from the start. Kate was working as a nurse a couple of shifts a week after they were born. She did all the baby work with help from family and friends. IIRC she had benefits from her job so it was helpful for her to keep working. Jon was useless. He couldn't keep a job or keep up with the house. Some of the early episodes showed him trying to get a job.

Jon was an IT analyst

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Kate was always awful to that little boy, she just treated him different. Kids know, even from a very young age, when they not being treated right and some of them act out because of it.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

He was barely working at the start of the show, which is why they did the show, for money. It was something then argued about on the show. He was unhelpful with the kids and not helping financially. Stop only blaming only the mom. It’s a tired, played out narrative.

She didn’t want him working a lot as they had so many kids. She wasn’t working either. We only see her side. The show got a gag order so he couldn’t talk.

np here, You really didn't watch from the start. Kate was working as a nurse a couple of shifts a week after they were born. She did all the baby work with help from family and friends. IIRC she had benefits from her job so it was helpful for her to keep working. Jon was useless. He couldn't keep a job or keep up with the house. Some of the early episodes showed him trying to get a job.

You realize the show is a show for attention and ratings. Not everything is accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.

It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?

If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.

He was barely working at the start of the show, which is why they did the show, for money. It was something then argued about on the show. He was unhelpful with the kids and not helping financially. Stop only blaming only the mom. It’s a tired, played out narrative.

She didn’t want him working a lot as they had so many kids. She wasn’t working either. We only see her side. The show got a gag order so he couldn’t talk.

np here, You really didn't watch from the start. Kate was working as a nurse a couple of shifts a week after they were born. She did all the baby work with help from family and friends. IIRC she had benefits from her job so it was helpful for her to keep working. Jon was useless. He couldn't keep a job or keep up with the house. Some of the early episodes showed him trying to get a job.

Jon was an IT analyst

Just barely, that's what he was applying for in the early episodes.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate was always awful to that little boy, she just treated him different. Kids know, even from a very young age, when they not being treated right and some of them act out because of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVBOcQ_gFiw&t=11s

Horrible.

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I always get distracted with the Gosselin’s thinking about genetics. Jon is half white on his father’s side and his mother is from Hawaii and is Korean descent. Kate has light hair and light eyes. So the 8 kids are only 1/4 Asian. None of them look 1/4 Asian at all. I would have thought at least one would look more like Sky Brown or Keanu Reaves.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.

How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.

Bull. No way a student can’t pay over $50,000 without any money.

There are ways. My husband's son claims to have $400K in student loan debt.

Yes, my nephew, who had parental financial help for undergrad, has around $225k in debt for his post-grad years.

Yes, there WERE ways. The vast majority of those ways are now closed off to students in 2023, as we learned that allowing 18-year-olds to borrow hundreds of thousands of dollars they’d never be able to pay was rather a bad idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Kate and Jon have their issues and won’t win parents of the year anytime soon but one thing I won’t criticize Kate for is she obviously wants her kids to be upwardly mobile.

In her situation, I probably would have sent kids to public school but I won’t criticize her for sending the kids to LCDS. I also definitely won’t criticize her for having her kids go to the likes of Fordham and Syracuse and U of Miami over the PA State Colleges.

I seriously doubt those kids are paying full price for those colleges. They would have to get some combination of merit aid and need based aid.

Merit, maybe, but they aren’t getting need-based aid at their parents’ incomes (which yes, are required to be considered — even if the parents won’t contribute a dime — until the student is 26).

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Anonymous wrote:Hannah and Collin will be featured on a show called "The Dark Side of the 2000s" next week and discuss the estranged relationship between Kate and Collin. I plan to watch.

https://www.today.com/parents/celebrity/collin-gosselin-kate-gosselin-vice-rcna93561

They should not be allowed to do this.

“Should not be allowed?” By whom precisely?