How southern is the Richmond area?

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Anonymous wrote:Like many northern virginians, we are thinking of moving to the richmond area. It seems as if the hot spots as of now are in chesterfield county, and parts of western henrico look quite appealing as well. However we are curious as to how southern the area is, and if we’ll experience a culture shock when moving there. we are used to northern virginia southern (aka exurban rural country loco/pw/fauquier style) but definitely are not accustomed to alabama mississippi style southern at all. Any insight would be helpful.

You may experience some culture shock in Chesterfield. Western Henrico is a safe bet.

Chesterfield is the fastest growing county from 2020-2022, almost as much growth as loudoun and prince william combined. hard to imagine it’s not majority transplant yet.

Around the Hull Street corridor, yes, it is quickly growing. I have 2 coworkers who work remotely and moved down there and love it.

I feel like everyone in northern virginia knows at least one person who’s moved down to RVA in recent years. Seems like half the people who move out of my area go down there.

Y’all ruin everything!

Yep, and some of the the locals are not excited about the change.

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2023/01/16/northern-virginia-nova-richmond

https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/02/14/is-richmond-turning-into-the-new-bedroom-community-for-dc-workers/

Richmond locals are indeed parochial, xenophobic and nativist, that’s correct.

My neighborhood has maybe 4 native families left. It's all MDs from South Asia, upper management from Capital One, lawyers and fed IT consultants.

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So...you live in Ashburn?

Have you never been to western Henrico? The schools are almost equally white and indian. IT jobs and doctors, like in Ashburn.

You mean the far west end, like near Short Pump? Glen Allen? There is a difference between the far west end and the true west end and it is a dead giveaway that you are a transplant when you get them confused. It’s really NBD but natives will immediately know.

Western Henrico (like Deep Run HS) is essentially akin to Ashburn/Brambleton yes. Its actually a perfect analogy in many ways.

So Henrico is like a horse shoe around the city limits. Eastern Henrico (Mechanicsville, etc) is in a world all its own. But when you say Western Henrico you can’t lump together all of the part of Henrico west of the city. Short Pump/ Glen Area is not the same as the west end, or Lower Tuckahoe or Westham or River Road. Just like Fairfax is big and different.

Most transplants I know when they say western Henrico they mean past Innsbrook (west and north). I don’t know what high schools are out there but I have heard those schools are good, probably because the people who out there are UMC, well educated, very involved parents who support the schools so parents want to buy houses there because of the schools, cycle continues. Nice amenities, people obviously really like it out there otherwise it wouldn’t have boomed and expanded. No shade.

My parents live right by the city/county line off of River and now a few of my former classmates live on my parents street with their own families (my parents are hold outs who seem like they’ll never downsize). To me, that’s the west end, that’s western Henrico. When I think of Short Pump think that’s as far as Goochland or Powhatan and may joke it’s halfway to Charlottesville (I know I’m wrong). I think any part of the western side of Henrico would be a nice place to live. But I would avoid eastern Henrico. It’s not as moderate as the rest of the area, at all.

Eastern Henrico is changing quite rapidly as well, however. They just recently approved a massive 1,000 home project in Varina; surely other hosing developments and infrastructure will follow.

https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/henrico-county/henrico-embraces-divisive-800-home-development-in-varina/

https://richmond.com/news/local/residential-community-planned-in-varina-would-create-1-000-new-homes/article_78b5f303-25c3-540f-828f-41606ca64b36.html

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Anonymous wrote:Like many northern virginians, we are thinking of moving to the richmond area. It seems as if the hot spots as of now are in chesterfield county, and parts of western henrico look quite appealing as well. However we are curious as to how southern the area is, and if we’ll experience a culture shock when moving there. we are used to northern virginia southern (aka exurban rural country loco/pw/fauquier style) but definitely are not accustomed to alabama mississippi style southern at all. Any insight would be helpful.

You may experience some culture shock in Chesterfield. Western Henrico is a safe bet.

Chesterfield is the fastest growing county from 2020-2022, almost as much growth as loudoun and prince william combined. hard to imagine it’s not majority transplant yet.

Around the Hull Street corridor, yes, it is quickly growing. I have 2 coworkers who work remotely and moved down there and love it.

I feel like everyone in northern virginia knows at least one person who’s moved down to RVA in recent years. Seems like half the people who move out of my area go down there.

Y’all ruin everything!

Yep, and some of the the locals are not excited about the change.

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2023/01/16/northern-virginia-nova-richmond

https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/02/14/is-richmond-turning-into-the-new-bedroom-community-for-dc-workers/

Richmond locals are indeed parochial, xenophobic and nativist, that’s correct.

My neighborhood has maybe 4 native families left. It's all MDs from South Asia, upper management from Capital One, lawyers and fed IT consultants.

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So...you live in Ashburn?

Have you never been to western Henrico? The schools are almost equally white and indian. IT jobs and doctors, like in Ashburn.

You mean the far west end, like near Short Pump? Glen Allen? There is a difference between the far west end and the true west end and it is a dead giveaway that you are a transplant when you get them confused. It’s really NBD but natives will immediately know.

Western Henrico (like Deep Run HS) is essentially akin to Ashburn/Brambleton yes. Its actually a perfect analogy in many ways.

So Henrico is like a horse shoe around the city limits. Eastern Henrico (Mechanicsville, etc) is in a world all its own. But when you say Western Henrico you can’t lump together all of the part of Henrico west of the city. Short Pump/ Glen Area is not the same as the west end, or Lower Tuckahoe or Westham or River Road. Just like Fairfax is big and different.

Most transplants I know when they say western Henrico they mean past Innsbrook (west and north). I don’t know what high schools are out there but I have heard those schools are good, probably because the people who out there are UMC, well educated, very involved parents who support the schools so parents want to buy houses there because of the schools, cycle continues. Nice amenities, people obviously really like it out there otherwise it wouldn’t have boomed and expanded. No shade.

My parents live right by the city/county line off of River and now a few of my former classmates live on my parents street with their own families (my parents are hold outs who seem like they’ll never downsize). To me, that’s the west end, that’s western Henrico. When I think of Short Pump think that’s as far as Goochland or Powhatan and may joke it’s halfway to Charlottesville (I know I’m wrong). I think any part of the western side of Henrico would be a nice place to live. But I would avoid eastern Henrico. It’s not as moderate as the rest of the area, at all.

Yes, I'm the pp and also a native Richmonder. I remember when Innsbrook was THE END. I don't really hear the phrase "western henrico" used much and its definitely not the same thing as "the West End" which is a very specific term in Richmond and does not include Short Pump. I was just using "western henrico" for the purposes of explaining to non-richmonders. But I agree that NW Henrico county would be more descriptive because the western edge of River Road is totally different. Although many (most) of the people in that area are using privates. The Short Pump area is exactly like Ashburn - lots of newer construction McMansions, lots of new money people willing to spend spend spend. Very white and asian, very type A. I agree that its nothing like Tuckahoe or River Road which is mostly "from heres" with almost no "come heres."

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Anonymous wrote:Like many northern virginians, we are thinking of moving to the richmond area. It seems as if the hot spots as of now are in chesterfield county, and parts of western henrico look quite appealing as well. However we are curious as to how southern the area is, and if we’ll experience a culture shock when moving there. we are used to northern virginia southern (aka exurban rural country loco/pw/fauquier style) but definitely are not accustomed to alabama mississippi style southern at all. Any insight would be helpful.

You may experience some culture shock in Chesterfield. Western Henrico is a safe bet.

Chesterfield is the fastest growing county from 2020-2022, almost as much growth as loudoun and prince william combined. hard to imagine it’s not majority transplant yet.

Around the Hull Street corridor, yes, it is quickly growing. I have 2 coworkers who work remotely and moved down there and love it.

I feel like everyone in northern virginia knows at least one person who’s moved down to RVA in recent years. Seems like half the people who move out of my area go down there.

Y’all ruin everything!

Yep, and some of the the locals are not excited about the change.

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2023/01/16/northern-virginia-nova-richmond

https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/02/14/is-richmond-turning-into-the-new-bedroom-community-for-dc-workers/

Richmond locals are indeed parochial, xenophobic and nativist, that’s correct.

My neighborhood has maybe 4 native families left. It's all MDs from South Asia, upper management from Capital One, lawyers and fed IT consultants.

+1

So...you live in Ashburn?

Have you never been to western Henrico? The schools are almost equally white and indian. IT jobs and doctors, like in Ashburn.

You mean the far west end, like near Short Pump? Glen Allen? There is a difference between the far west end and the true west end and it is a dead giveaway that you are a transplant when you get them confused. It’s really NBD but natives will immediately know.

Western Henrico (like Deep Run HS) is essentially akin to Ashburn/Brambleton yes. Its actually a perfect analogy in many ways.

So Henrico is like a horse shoe around the city limits. Eastern Henrico (Mechanicsville, etc) is in a world all its own. But when you say Western Henrico you can’t lump together all of the part of Henrico west of the city. Short Pump/ Glen Area is not the same as the west end, or Lower Tuckahoe or Westham or River Road. Just like Fairfax is big and different.

Most transplants I know when they say western Henrico they mean past Innsbrook (west and north). I don’t know what high schools are out there but I have heard those schools are good, probably because the people who out there are UMC, well educated, very involved parents who support the schools so parents want to buy houses there because of the schools, cycle continues. Nice amenities, people obviously really like it out there otherwise it wouldn’t have boomed and expanded. No shade.

My parents live right by the city/county line off of River and now a few of my former classmates live on my parents street with their own families (my parents are hold outs who seem like they’ll never downsize). To me, that’s the west end, that’s western Henrico. When I think of Short Pump think that’s as far as Goochland or Powhatan and may joke it’s halfway to Charlottesville (I know I’m wrong). I think any part of the western side of Henrico would be a nice place to live. But I would avoid eastern Henrico. It’s not as moderate as the rest of the area, at all.

Eastern Henrico is changing quite rapidly as well, however. They just recently approved a massive 1,000 home project in Varina; surely other hosing developments and infrastructure will follow.

https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/henrico-county/henrico-embraces-divisive-800-home-development-in-varina/

https://richmond.com/news/local/residential-community-planned-in-varina-would-create-1-000-new-homes/article_78b5f303-25c3-540f-828f-41606ca64b36.html

But who is going to live there? Culturally the west and east sides of Henrico are very different and neither side seems upset by that. It’s ok. My BFF from childhood moved out to Quinton (New Kent) right next to Varina 30 years ago bc she wanted wide open spaces. She still lives there and she tells me while there is massive development, it is still pretty conservative. Like banning books, arguments over trans bathrooms, etc. It’s just different. And people from Richmond know that. It’s ok.

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Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

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Anonymous wrote:Like many northern virginians, we are thinking of moving to the richmond area. It seems as if the hot spots as of now are in chesterfield county, and parts of western henrico look quite appealing as well. However we are curious as to how southern the area is, and if we’ll experience a culture shock when moving there. we are used to northern virginia southern (aka exurban rural country loco/pw/fauquier style) but definitely are not accustomed to alabama mississippi style southern at all. Any insight would be helpful.

You may experience some culture shock in Chesterfield. Western Henrico is a safe bet.

Chesterfield is the fastest growing county from 2020-2022, almost as much growth as loudoun and prince william combined. hard to imagine it’s not majority transplant yet.

Around the Hull Street corridor, yes, it is quickly growing. I have 2 coworkers who work remotely and moved down there and love it.

I feel like everyone in northern virginia knows at least one person who’s moved down to RVA in recent years. Seems like half the people who move out of my area go down there.

Y’all ruin everything!

Yep, and some of the the locals are not excited about the change.

https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2023/01/16/northern-virginia-nova-richmond

https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/02/14/is-richmond-turning-into-the-new-bedroom-community-for-dc-workers/

Richmond locals are indeed parochial, xenophobic and nativist, that’s correct.

My neighborhood has maybe 4 native families left. It's all MDs from South Asia, upper management from Capital One, lawyers and fed IT consultants.

+1

So...you live in Ashburn?

Have you never been to western Henrico? The schools are almost equally white and indian. IT jobs and doctors, like in Ashburn.

You mean the far west end, like near Short Pump? Glen Allen? There is a difference between the far west end and the true west end and it is a dead giveaway that you are a transplant when you get them confused. It’s really NBD but natives will immediately know.

Western Henrico (like Deep Run HS) is essentially akin to Ashburn/Brambleton yes. Its actually a perfect analogy in many ways.

So Henrico is like a horse shoe around the city limits. Eastern Henrico (Mechanicsville, etc) is in a world all its own. But when you say Western Henrico you can’t lump together all of the part of Henrico west of the city. Short Pump/ Glen Area is not the same as the west end, or Lower Tuckahoe or Westham or River Road. Just like Fairfax is big and different.

Most transplants I know when they say western Henrico they mean past Innsbrook (west and north). I don’t know what high schools are out there but I have heard those schools are good, probably because the people who out there are UMC, well educated, very involved parents who support the schools so parents want to buy houses there because of the schools, cycle continues. Nice amenities, people obviously really like it out there otherwise it wouldn’t have boomed and expanded. No shade.

My parents live right by the city/county line off of River and now a few of my former classmates live on my parents street with their own families (my parents are hold outs who seem like they’ll never downsize). To me, that’s the west end, that’s western Henrico. When I think of Short Pump think that’s as far as Goochland or Powhatan and may joke it’s halfway to Charlottesville (I know I’m wrong). I think any part of the western side of Henrico would be a nice place to live. But I would avoid eastern Henrico. It’s not as moderate as the rest of the area, at all.

Eastern Henrico is changing quite rapidly as well, however. They just recently approved a massive 1,000 home project in Varina; surely other hosing developments and infrastructure will follow.

https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/henrico-county/henrico-embraces-divisive-800-home-development-in-varina/

https://richmond.com/news/local/residential-community-planned-in-varina-would-create-1-000-new-homes/article_78b5f303-25c3-540f-828f-41606ca64b36.html

But who is going to live there? Culturally the west and east sides of Henrico are very different and neither side seems upset by that. It’s ok. My BFF from childhood moved out to Quinton (New Kent) right next to Varina 30 years ago bc she wanted wide open spaces. She still lives there and she tells me while there is massive development, it is still pretty conservative. Like banning books, arguments over trans bathrooms, etc. It’s just different. And people from Richmond know that. It’s ok.

Exactly. The same can be said of Loudoun County. The western and eastern parts remain polar opposites, but that’s what’s beautiful about it. The rural yin to the urban yang.

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

Southern doesn’t equal Mormon, at all.

Does your BFF know you think these things? Oh no, meal trains when someone is sick or dies?! Baby showers! How nasty?!

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

Southern doesn’t equal Mormon, at all.

Does your BFF know you think these things? Oh no, meal trains when someone is sick or dies?! Baby showers! How nasty?!

DP here. Actually Mormon wives and white Southern wives have a lot in common. Big emphasis on homemaking and being SAHM’s, having at least 3 kids, dressing them in matching or cutesy clothes, and in general just having their entire identify being motherhood and their children.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL they thing the confederacy still won.

Really OP?
Richmond is ultra conservative.

[b]I live in the city and my polling place has single digits for Republican candidates. Usually the libertarian beats the Republican, and the Democrat gets at least 85%.

+1. The city of Richmond is 40% black/AA

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

It’s funny. People in nyc and Boston would consider the DMV to be “southern”. But somehow a 80 mile distance south of DC is considered “super southern” by DCUM standards.

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

It’s funny. People in nyc and Boston would consider the DMV to be “southern”. But somehow a 80 mile distance south of DC is considered “super southern” by DCUM standards.

Well anywhere in Virginia that doesn’t have transplants is southern, so it’s understandable. Go out to Culpeper or 10 minutes north/south of fredericksburg, it feels southern.

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

It’s funny. People in nyc and Boston would consider the DMV to be “southern”. But somehow a 80 mile distance south of DC is considered “super southern” by DCUM standards.

True! DC is southern and so is Richmond. That does not mean they are necessarily bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

Southern doesn’t equal Mormon, at all.

Does your BFF know you think these things? Oh no, meal trains when someone is sick or dies?! Baby showers! How nasty?!

DP here. Actually Mormon wives and white Southern wives have a lot in common. Big emphasis on homemaking and being SAHM’s, having at least 3 kids, dressing them in matching or cutesy clothes, and in general just having their entire identify being motherhood and their children.

That does not describe the average Richmond mother, at all. GMAFB.

-Born and raised in Richmond

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Anonymous wrote:Culturally pretty southern. My BFF and my nextdoor neighbor are both from Richmond. They both wear pearls, pastels / Lily Pulitzer, Jack Rogers or Tory Burch sandals, and generally exude a Southern sorority girl vibe. My neighbor dresses her kids in smocked, embroidered outfits for every holiday and has oil paintings of her kids - very similar to our family friends in North Carolina. They are ALL about things like baby showers, meal trains, and all the traditional homemaker / Pinterest things I associate with southern women, Mormons, and stay at home moms.

It sounds as though when you see "southern," you only hear "white southern."

I'm not saying you're the only one on this thread who does that, but it's pretty telling.

Southern doesn’t equal Mormon, at all.

Does your BFF know you think these things? Oh no, meal trains when someone is sick or dies?! Baby showers! How nasty?!

DP here. Actually Mormon wives and white Southern wives have a lot in common. Big emphasis on homemaking and being SAHM’s, having at least 3 kids, dressing them in matching or cutesy clothes, and in general just having their entire identify being motherhood and their children.

That does not describe the average Richmond mother, at all. GMAFB.

-Born and raised in Richmond

This forum is full of DC transplants who have never stepped foot south of Woodbridge yet pretend they know all about richmonders.

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Anonymous wrote:Ten bucks people are moving to escape the results of their own votes.

Democrats voted to decriminalize crime and defund the police.

Now they act surprised when they themselves become crime victims, there are criminals in their neighborhoods, and there are fewer police to answer their 911 calls.

Elections have consequences.