Jessa Duggar had an abortion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get it now. Jessa has illustrated that even in deep red states, women can receive care after natural/spontaneous pregnancy loss.

Women don’t need to have life-threatening sepsis or other complications to receive this care.

And lwnjs go goblin mode, distorting and outright lying about Jessa’s loss, to try and smear her and pretend women will die because they can’t receive care. Jessa illustrates women can. No favors were called in, she went by state laws and received care.

This is because the debate is not truly about “women’s rights” or “women’s healthcare.” It’s about abortion of convenience. And the goblins are outraged that some states don’t allow that anymore.

Even if it is abortion of convenience, what business is it of yours? If you don't want one, don't get one, but you do not have the right to tell me how to manage my body.Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This will not change any narratives. As you can see these good folks have no problems with doing what’s best for them while telling others something else.

Especially when your baby dies in utero.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, didn’t freakonomics cover the statistics on violent crime going down after abortion was legalized?

I’m in no way using this as an argument, just saying that info is actually out there.

Are you speaking of a podcast? We should take the word of a podcast to support aborting babies? How do we decide which baby will grow up
to be violent and criminal so we can kill him or her before they can be born?

Dp- the podcast talks about a famous study done. I think it was in Hungary.
It’s not a secret. The info is out there.

Before Freakonomics was a podcast, it was an extremely popular book.

This wikipedia article does a great job explaining the theory expressed in the Freakonomics book that legalization of abortion leads to reduced crime. (The leading study was in Sweden, not Hungary, but the book considered the effects of legalized abortion in America).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect


The wiki article also discusses the many scholarly critiques of the theory.

Abortion was initially a eugenics effort before being mainstreamed as a form of birth control. It makes sense that as the populations of terminated pregnancies change, the social effects change too.

Classic example of how our schools fail to educate people.

Abortion has been around since humans have been around. Why? Because sometimes a woman does NOT WANT to be pregnant and carry a fetus to term, for whatever reasons. It’s only in recent centuries—really decades—that religious conservatives have gotten so hyped up about it.

So safe and rare is now convenient and on demand?

Yeah, we knew it was, the whole time. But it must be freeing to actually admit the truth after pretending for so long.

Is there a problem with "on demand" if it is within the terms defined under Roe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, didn’t freakonomics cover the statistics on violent crime going down after abortion was legalized?

I’m in no way using this as an argument, just saying that info is actually out there.

Are you speaking of a podcast? We should take the word of a podcast to support aborting babies? How do we decide which baby will grow up
to be violent and criminal so we can kill him or her before they can be born?

Dp- the podcast talks about a famous study done. I think it was in Hungary.
It’s not a secret. The info is out there.

Before Freakonomics was a podcast, it was an extremely popular book.

This wikipedia article does a great job explaining the theory expressed in the Freakonomics book that legalization of abortion leads to reduced crime. (The leading study was in Sweden, not Hungary, but the book considered the effects of legalized abortion in America).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect


The wiki article also discusses the many scholarly critiques of the theory.

Abortion was initially a eugenics effort before being mainstreamed as a form of birth control. It makes sense that as the populations of terminated pregnancies change, the social effects change too.

Classic example of how our schools fail to educate people.

Abortion has been around since humans have been around. Why? Because sometimes a woman does NOT WANT to be pregnant and carry a fetus to term, for whatever reasons. It’s only in recent centuries—really decades—that religious conservatives have gotten so hyped up about it.

So safe and rare is now convenient and on demand?

Yeah, we knew it was, the whole time. But it must be freeing to actually admit the truth after pretending for so long.

The difference between zealots like you and people like me is I believe women are human beings who get to decide what happens with their bodies. And I don’t think labeling a woman’s decision not to go through with a pregnancy as “for convenience” is a negative thing. Because I am not a Neanderthal when it comes to women’s and girls’ autonomy and full humanity.

+1

[Anonymous]

If I were anti abortion and was merely told my very wanted fetus “doesn’t look good,” I wouldn’t consider an abortion until confirming fetal demise. If I were a famously religious anti abortion public figure, I wouldn’t publicly discuss my d&c using ambiguous terms that leave the fetus’s time/cause of death open to interpretation. But that’s just me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were anti abortion and was merely told my very wanted fetus “doesn’t look good,” I wouldn’t consider an abortion until confirming fetal demise. If I were a famously religious anti abortion public figure, I wouldn’t publicly discuss my d&c using ambiguous terms that leave the fetus’s time/cause of death open to interpretation. But that’s just me.

No one said this woman is intelligent. I’m guessing she’s “taking a break from social media” on the after-the-fact advice of her family’s attorneys. She already let the cat out of the bag.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This will not change any narratives. As you can see these good folks have no problems with doing what’s best for them while telling others something else.

Especially when your baby dies in utero.

Or even when it doesn’t “die” but is not viable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were anti abortion and was merely told my very wanted fetus “doesn’t look good,” I wouldn’t consider an abortion until confirming fetal demise. If I were a famously religious anti abortion public figure, I wouldn’t publicly discuss my d&c using ambiguous terms that leave the fetus’s time/cause of death open to interpretation. But that’s just me.

No one said this woman is intelligent. I’m guessing she’s “taking a break from social media” on the after-the-fact advice of her family’s attorneys. She already let the cat out of the bag.

She can clear this up pretty quickly if there’s a misunderstanding.

[Anonymous]

Fetuses don't even have souls until like 12 weeks which is when 99% of the abortions happen. What's the problem?

[Anonymous]

The vast majority of anti abortion lawmakers are male and know very little about female reproductive systems, pregnancy, childbirth, and associated complications.

Females have a variety of reasons for having abortions, including to save their own lives.

Lawmakers have crafted abortion bans using language that discourages doctors in some jurisdictions from performing medically necessary abortions until the pregnant woman’s death is imminent and an abortion must be performed to save her life.

If this thread doesn’t chill you, you aren’t a feeling human.

[Anonymous]

Ectopic Pregnancy is a reason why we can't go with the "cardiac activity" nonsense.

That is a non-viable pregnancy AND it could kill the mother.

But, hey, there is a "heartbeat" so how dare we end that "life"

This and women actually having to become septic before ending a pregnancy is BS.

Many of those pregnancies are wanted and something has gone horribly wrong. Yet, because of the way the laws are written, ending a doomed and potentially life-threatening pregnancy is against the law.

And don't even get me started on the woman that was profiled in FL being forced to carry a doomed pregnancy to term

These women are NOT criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

The vast majority of people kill their own children because their own children are inconvenient to them.

Liberals want to kill babies before they are born because they think the baby might be a criminal.

If this thread doesn’t chill you, you aren’t a feeling human.

These statements are ridiculous.

But I’m just curious, what do you think happens to unwanted children when they grow up?
Who do you think they become?
Who do you think are in prisons?
70% of children in foster care are sent to jail by age 26.
How many of those kids were planned pregnancies?

It’s not ethical or moral to kill another human because of statistical information.

I am glad I am not such a morally bereft person that I think the lives of other humans are disposable because it inconveniences me.

Real ghouls openly advocating for eugenics, genocide, and the killing of innocent unborn on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

The vast majority of people kill their own children because their own children are inconvenient to them.

Liberals want to kill babies before they are born because they think the baby might be a criminal.

If this thread doesn’t chill you, you aren’t a feeling human.

These statements are ridiculous.

But I’m just curious, what do you think happens to unwanted children when they grow up?
Who do you think they become?
Who do you think are in prisons?
70% of children in foster care are sent to jail by age 26.
How many of those kids were planned pregnancies?

It’s not ethical or moral to kill another human because of statistical information.

I am glad I am not such a morally bereft person that I think the lives of other humans are disposable because it inconveniences me.

Real ghouls openly advocating for eugenics, genocide, and the killing of innocent unborn on this thread.

You have no idea what eugenics is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

The vast majority of people kill their own children because their own children are inconvenient to them.

Liberals want to kill babies before they are born because they think the baby might be a criminal.

If this thread doesn’t chill you, you aren’t a feeling human.

These statements are ridiculous.

But I’m just curious, what do you think happens to unwanted children when they grow up?
Who do you think they become?
Who do you think are in prisons?
70% of children in foster care are sent to jail by age 26.
How many of those kids were planned pregnancies?

It’s not ethical or moral to kill another human because of statistical information.

I am glad I am not such a morally bereft person that I think the lives of other humans are disposable because it inconveniences me.

Real ghouls openly advocating for eugenics, genocide, and the killing of innocent unborn on this thread.

You have no idea what eugenics is.

Define it, please. - Different poster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

The vast majority of people kill their own children because their own children are inconvenient to them.

Liberals want to kill babies before they are born because they think the baby might be a criminal.

If this thread doesn’t chill you, you aren’t a feeling human.

These statements are ridiculous.

But I’m just curious, what do you think happens to unwanted children when they grow up?
Who do you think they become?
Who do you think are in prisons?
70% of children in foster care are sent to jail by age 26.
How many of those kids were planned pregnancies?

It’s not ethical or moral to kill another human because of statistical information.

I am glad I am not such a morally bereft person that I think the lives of other humans are disposable because it inconveniences me.

Real ghouls openly advocating for eugenics, genocide, and the killing of innocent unborn on this thread.

Why aren’t you concerned about the potential killing of innocent women because doctors may let them get a smidge too close to death before performing an abortion to save their lives? Play this game long enough and eventually it won’t end with mom and baby both alive.