Indian ethnicity posters…how do you feel about three Indian ethnic people running for potus?

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Anonymous wrote:I like this guy: Vivek Ramaswamy

Exceptionalism and Merit seem to be his focus, and I will gladly applaud his efforts. Chances are no one else will.


He's a scam artist. Dig past the slogans.


His wife is brilliant, tho. Also Vance’s wife. I don’t understand how they can turn a blind eye to the crazy nonsense they are spewing.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t like it because at least 2/3 come from anti-Punjabi blood lines… which is something that for my people is worse than white supremacists.


Khalistani?

It does not impact you because Khaali Sthaan exists between your ears. Besides, Punjabi and Sikh is not equal to Khalistaani.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this guy: Vivek Ramaswamy

Exceptionalism and Merit seem to be his focus, and I will gladly applaud his efforts. Chances are no one else will.


I would if merit were real, but it isn't. Merit means everyone gets the same chance and opportunity to compete, which they don't. Merit means there is no more legacy or athletics special treatment. America thrives on special treatment and calls it merit.


In America, "having merit" and being a "self-made millionaire" means having a multi-million dollar real estate empire handed to you by your daddy - right Donald Trump?
In America, "having merit" means being "self made" thanks to the wealth of your daddy's emerald empire, buying companies started by visionaries and pretending to be the visionary, yourself - right, Elon Musk?

People need to try harder.


Ehhh that "American Dream" thing is an old trope that died in the 1980s. Today you can work your ass off and still never become a multimillionaire. Most of today's wealthy in America got that way because they started out rich, had the right connections, got "struck by lightning" level lucky and so on. Or you can exploit people, scam and grift your way into wealth, whether big pharma or other schemes - but actual self-made, honest wealth these days in America is damn rare and the "American Dream" thing has a lot of illusory elements to it. A lot of Indian immigrants to America are still figuring that out.


I think Indian immigrants have figured it out way better than most others. They are the most prosperous immigrant group probably in the history of the USA. They have literally proven you wrong, unless you think their success is related to luck only? Maybe there is initially some of it for the more recent waves that came specifically as educated workers for tech/IT with jobs in high paying industry and not having to start from unskilled labor jobs like the earlier waves or immigrants or without skills/education/English. But you cannot deny there is culture at play that prioritizes education, hard work, self-reliance, and competition.

Right and the Indians here are the ones who could afford the thousands of dollars needed to buy a plane ticket to the US. India is not sending us its poor, uneducated masses. Most coming here already have some level of education and money to afford coming to the US.

Yes. This fact was explained to me by someone in one of the stereotypical "acceptable" Indian professions. The ones coming to the US are from the wealthy class. Not quite the dirt poor, bootstrap story of most immigrants.


Wealthy Indians don’t come the us - it’s umc

If you have serious wealth in India (showbiz, business magnate, etc you stay)

South Bombay movers and shakers don’t really have an interest to move to the us

The us gets middle class/umc/lmc types

Canada and uk get poors and/or Islamist Indians.





Very accurate.

And it's becoming a big problem in Canada

Not exactly getting India's best and brightest.

Not a lot of love for Punjabis in southern Ontario.


Canadian Indians are mostly the “cletus-es” of India
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Is Rama -smarmy completely cynical? He is highly educated and must know a lot of his MAGA talking points are not borne out by evidence or even common sense (or misrepresent reality).
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My money is on completely cynical

The youngest and first Indian American Republican candidate has made inaccurate or blatantly false claims about climate change as well as the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, while mischaracterizing his own positions and past comments. He also lied about his book’s positions in order to appeal to MAGA cult members.

Fact checking Ramaswamy

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/26/us/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-2024-campaign-fact-check.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Climate change denialism
“The reality is more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change.”
— in the first Republican debate

False. There is no evidence to support this assertion.

The World Meteorological Organization, a United Nations agency, estimated in May that extreme weather events, compounded by climate change, caused nearly 12,000 disasters and a death toll of 2 million between 1970 and 2021. Extreme heat causes about 600 deaths in the United States a year


Jan. 6 and the 2020 election loss denialism

“What percentage of the people who were armed were federal law-enforcement officers? I think it was probably high, actually. Right? There’s very little evidence of people being arrested for being armed that day. Most of the people who were armed, I assume the federal officers who were out there were armed.”
— in an interview with The Atlantic in July

False. Ramaswamy has echoed the right-wing talking point that the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol did not involve weapons and was largely peaceful. His spokeswoman argued that he was merely asking questions.

Recently, 104 out of about 1,100 total defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon, according to the Justice Department. At least 13 face gun charges.

Foreign policy

“Much of our military defense spending in the last several decades has not actually gone to national defense.”
— in an interview on the Fox Business Network in August
False. A spokeswoman for Ramaswamy said he was comparing military aid to foreign countries and “homeland defense.” But the amount the US has spent on security assistance pales in comparison to general military spending and homeland security spending.


Fact check: Ramaswamy makes two false claims about what he wrote in his own book

https://abc17news.com/politics/national-politics/cnn-us-politics/2023/08/31/fact-check-ramaswamy-makes-two-false-claims-about-what-he-wrote-in-his-own-book/



Ramaswamy lies so much that even Donald Trump thinks “he’s starting to get out there a little bit.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna102984

Vivek Ramaswamy lies a lot. 
Last month, at the first Republican presidential debate, he called climate change a “hoax” and said “more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change,” which is not remotely true. 

He also has claimed we don’t know “the truth about Jan. 6” and spread baseless conspiracy theories about Sept. 11 — and when caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar, he said that he was misquoted (which is also a lie). He has denied criticizing Trump’s actions on Jan. 6, even though he did so in a book published just last year. And he has supported masking during the COVID-19 pandemic, pardoning Hunter Biden and cutting U.S. aid for Israel. When asked about each claim, Ramaswamy denied making them — all easily provable falsehoods.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Her past statements and associations are suspect

this isn't about her ethnicity or gender, but her views and the views of people she has openly supported/embraced



And yet she seemed like the only adult in the room at the first Republican presidential candidates debate … everything is relative …
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