So many unweighted 4.0s.
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Anonymous
At the very least, they don’t inflate grades. Just the opposite in many cases. My kid actually has to work hard for his grades. There are no retakes, no 50%. It’s sad that I need to pay tuition so I know exactly where he stands. An A in public school means you met the standard. Not in private school. It means you have exceeded the standard. |
Anonymous
UND does not defer, do you mean waitlisted? |
Anonymous
But amazingly, they are. Ask the ones in college now. At least the students hat took college-bound classes (AP/IB etc) feel that they are more than adequately prepared for their classes, even if they received As for an 89.5 in high school - or, horrors, a B for a 79.5. |
Anonymous
Do you know how many students are taking remedial courses in college? It’s something like 40%. I’d be pretty pissed if my kid got all As in HS and then needed to take remedial not for credit courses in college. |
Anonymous
That was likely the norm at RM: 15-20 unweighted GPA 4.0 per year (out of about 450-500 graduating seniors including about 115 IB magnets) before the current grading system (of no semester final exam, etc.) was implemented. For comparison, any data or guesswork on the number of unweighted GPAs per year at RM in recent years? |
Anonymous
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NP. In California. At the large local public my kid would have attended (in private instead), close to half the graduating class this year has an unweighted 4.0, largely because in remote learning, which went on for a very long time, everyone got As if they logged in. Parents I know are actually pretty mad about it because it has made UC admissions (which used to be a pretty known and reliable thing) essentially a lottery. I have a friend whose kid has a weighted 4.3 GPA and good ECs who was told by the college counselor that his only UC match was UC Merced. The rest were all reaches. None were safeties.
It seems unsustainable. |
Anonymous
No evidence of this. |
Anonymous
Not sure that there are any students that got all As in college-bound classes from MCPS schools taking "remedial courses" - but would love to hear your anecdotal data. |
Anonymous
+1 agree. It's the only think that is "standardized" across the schools. |
Anonymous
Require all test scores to be seen, no superscore. That cuts a lot of gaming out. Yes - some kids will prep more but it’s another variable for a full picture. If a kid took the test 4+times that’s a red flag. Nobody should take the sane standardized test more than twice. A good score first shot, all the better. I think gpas are pretty worthless at a lot of publics. Our public school system which already allows countless retakes of tests and late assignments is now going to “standards based learning” metrics. So even wishy-washier. Lord help us. |
Anonymous
+1 And the colleges already give some leeway on test scores for lower SES students. Right now, college admissions seem like a lottery after a certain threshold. Some of the deferred/rejections I've been seeing don't make any sense. |
Anonymous
Only about 6-10 4.0 unweighted GPA for TJ graduating class. About top 1% unlike 10-20% for other HSs. |
Anonymous
That's the thing, and my DCs didn't even have the unweighted 4.0s, yet both are in college with an MCPS education, feeling better prepared than peers. Oldest was recruited to work in the campus writing center, she sees how younger students cope as they hit their research papers and portfolio requirements. Youngest is the only freshman in one of his math courses, covering material I didn't see until grad school. This board is so obsessed with finding a number on a scrap of paper that settles things once and for all, but it can't be done. |
Anonymous
At least try to troll better. You're not even good at trolling. Not only you cannot compete against MCPS, you cannot even troll against MCPS. What a sad life you have. |
Anonymous
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If "A" grades are being given out like candy at only some schools, one of three things will happen:
1. Parents will press their schools to give out "A"s like candy too, which, if successful won't really do anything for college admissions because there already aren't enough spots at so-called "elite" schools for 4.0 students. This will only increase the tendency of parents to claim that the admissions process is unfair or random; or 2. Colleges will figure that out and downgrade the 4.0s from some schools over others (which they already do to an extent for schools where they have substantial experience with their students). 3. The final possibility, which is too painful for some parents to admit, is that most colleges know full well that GPA isn't a fully accurate picture of an applicant. The supply of "good enough" students is really high and admissions departments don't have any special talent in differentiating the "best" of those "good enough" students, so they don't bother trying to drill down beyond the basics of course rigor, class ranks, teacher recs etc. That's why they long ago moved to seeking so much more information in the applications. It may seem random, but it's really more that they recognize that GPAs aren't really "objective" given the level of subjectivity at the teacher and school level, so it's just one of the factors. |