So many unweighted 4.0s.

Anonymous
In places where there are many hard-working kids, we should expect many 4.0 unweighted GPAs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is it true there are no finals in mcps? What about midterms? How are these kids remotely prepared for college?


They have exams at the end of each quarter and large AP and IB participation for college bound kids. Kids go on to lots of top school and seem to manage. They get more teaching time in without exam weeks and the way the grading worked if you had an A both quarters you could get a C on the exam so kids could often blow them off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it true there are no finals in mcps? What about midterms? How are these kids remotely prepared for college?


They have exams at the end of each quarter and large AP and IB participation for college bound kids. Kids go on to lots of top school and seem to manage. They get more teaching time in without exam weeks and the way the grading worked if you had an A both quarters you could get a C on the exam so kids could often blow them off.


That’s ridiculous, exams are 20 percent of the semester grade at our private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's crazy to me how many kids there are on here with unweighted 4.0s. I feel like even last year it was rare. This year 10 replies out of 15 each time the results from another school come up are ALL unweighted 4.0s.
Many are MCPS--it makes sense with their wacky grading scale: you can get 69.5 (C) quarter 1, 79.5 (B) quarter 2, 79.5 (quarter 3) and 89.5 (quarter 4) and end up with an A or 4.0 for the year for the class.
THAT IS INSANE. Many districts are similar. You are a hair what is traditionally failing for a solid quarter (a 69.5) and you still get an A for the year.
And they don't have A minus grades. So an A is a 4.0

Plus retakes (in many classes), no penalty for late work, etc.

Does anyone who does the work, not end up with a 4.0? It really seems like you have to try to do poorly.

Has a 4.0 ceased (even unweighted) ceased to mean ANYTHING? It seems like this is really hurting the kids who are actually super smart. They are lost in the shuffle of so many kids getting "perfect" grades
for doing very average work.



Wow that is insane! If a student had the same quarter grades in my kids school here in NJ, his final grade would be 79.5, which is C+. And that means unweighted grade value for the class is 2.33.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it true there are no finals in mcps? What about midterms? How are these kids remotely prepared for college?


They have exams at the end of each quarter and large AP and IB participation for college bound kids. Kids go on to lots of top school and seem to manage. They get more teaching time in without exam weeks and the way the grading worked if you had an A both quarters you could get a C on the exam so kids could often blow them off.


That’s ridiculous, exams are 20 percent of the semester grade at our private.


MCPS too so you have an 80 A I think you could get a C on the final and still have an An
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no grade for the year in mcps. All classes are1 semester long. Everyone always mentions 79.5 and 89.5...but never the fact that 89.4 is a straight B.


But you can literally get what is a C at most schools (79.5%) for one quarter and still end up with an A.

Can anyone who actually attends class get less than a 79.5%? With test corrections and unlimited late work too? I mean tell me, how does a student who does all the work actually do worse than that?



My DD is in MCPS in APCalc AB. There are over 20 students in her class and 4 got As, 4 got Bs and the rest were lower with a number of Ds and Es. I know this because the teacher told the class and she told me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's crazy to me how many kids there are on here with unweighted 4.0s. I feel like even last year it was rare. This year 10 replies out of 15 each time the results from another school come up are ALL unweighted 4.0s.
Many are MCPS--it makes sense with their wacky grading scale: you can get 69.5 (C) quarter 1, 79.5 (B) quarter 2, 79.5 (quarter 3) and 89.5 (quarter 4) and end up with an A or 4.0 for the year for the class.
THAT IS INSANE. Many districts are similar. You are a hair what is traditionally failing for a solid quarter (a 69.5) and you still get an A for the year.
And they don't have A minus grades. So an A is a 4.0

Plus retakes (in many classes), no penalty for late work, etc.

Does anyone who does the work, not end up with a 4.0? It really seems like you have to try to do poorly.

Has a 4.0 ceased (even unweighted) ceased to mean ANYTHING? It seems like this is really hurting the kids who are actually super smart. They are lost in the shuffle of so many kids getting "perfect" grades
for doing very average work.



Wow that is insane! If a student had the same quarter grades in my kids school here in NJ, his final grade would be 79.5, which is C+. And that means unweighted grade value for the class is 2.33.


With just a tenth of a point lower it's a C here too...but that scenario never happens with semester classes.
Anonymous
At our MCPS school:

-no retakes
-deduction of 10% for late work
-semester grades not yearly grades (this is true of every MCPS school)

A 4.0 for a challenging schedule is rare at our school, as reflected in GPAs for college admissions contained on Naviance.

Please stop with spreading false information.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In MoCo Public Schools, one can get a B in one semester with a 79.5 average and an A in the other semester with an 89.5 average and get an A (4.0) for the year (with an 84.5 average).


No. You dint get Year grades, only semester. So would have B one semester and A next. Both go on transcript


Yes, it appears that this poster was mistaken. But the point still stands, just that you can get those grades each quarter, then get an A for the semester. Still seems out of whack.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At our MCPS school:

-no retakes
-deduction of 10% for late work
-semester grades not yearly grades (this is true of every MCPS school)

A 4.0 for a challenging schedule is rare at our school, as reflected in GPAs for college admissions contained on Naviance.

Please stop with spreading false information.


I agree completely.
Anonymous
First of all, basing your statement about so many unweighted 4.0s on a data set of DCUM posters isn't a great idea. People don't come here to brag about their kids with 3.2 UW GPAs. Having an unweighted 4.0 at many public schools isn't hard because the student could simply take all on grade level classes. My kid's high school (not MCPS) has a lot of 4.0s but not everyone had a rigorous schedule. The rigor of the schedule is what will matter more to colleges (look at the common data sets for colleges and you will see that rigor is as important as GPA. That's why the weighted GPAs are more important. All colleges recalculate GPAs and they are very upfront about this. People need to stop making excuses for why their kids won't get into certain colleges. The top schools are all lotteries anyway. Life has never been fair. And when you think about it, you probably don't want life to be fair because your kids would have a lot less than they do if things really were fair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MCPS school:

-no retakes
-deduction of 10% for late work
-semester grades not yearly grades (this is true of every MCPS school)

A 4.0 for a challenging schedule is rare at our school, as reflected in GPAs for college admissions contained on Naviance.

Please stop with spreading false information.


I agree completely.


if your kids don't get 4.0 at mcps that means your kids are behind... it will be difficult just to get to UMD
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In places where there are many hard-working kids, we should expect many 4.0 unweighted GPAs.


+1! My DD really puts in the work, and it shows through her GPA. My older son did not work as hard and he had a 3.85 GHPA. Neither one retook exams (Because who wants to study for an exam when you have moved on to something new? It just sets you further behind.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At our MCPS school:

-no retakes
-deduction of 10% for late work
-semester grades not yearly grades (this is true of every MCPS school)

A 4.0 for a challenging schedule is rare at our school, as reflected in GPAs for college admissions contained on Naviance.

Please stop with spreading false information.


I agree completely.


if your kids don't get 4.0 at mcps that means your kids are behind... it will be difficult just to get to UMD


“Just to get to UMD”

You do know that most applicants get rejected there?
Anonymous
My daughter is in a private school and currently has a 4.0. This is the following grading scale:

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