Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

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Anonymous wrote:Groups of teens are now carjacking people EVERY.NIGHT. - https://twitter.com/Killmoenetwork/status/1627040838500126720

If you don't like living in a vibrant city then move to somewhere where abortion is illegal? No? Didn't think so!

Crime doesn't make for a "vibrant" city.

Part of city life is learning to live in close proximity with other people. Sometimes those other people will behave anti-socially. That’s part of vibrant urbanism that you need to accept and deal with.

That's find for dealing with homeless people, people who urinate on the sidewalks, people who steal stuff out of your unlocked cars. It's not OK when people threaten you (or do worse) with deadly weapons.

Smashing car windows and stealing shit isn't fine either. I bet you dollars to donuts those people smashing windows and stealing stuff wouldn't at all be happy if you trashed their property and stole their shit, thus it is NOT socially acceptable, even to them. For that matter they probably wouldn't be happy if you walked over to them and peed all over their property either. Now come on with this looney "acceptance" idea.

They are probably doing it because they have already experienced it. You need to have more empathy.

No. The CORRECT answer is not "have empathy", the CORRECT answer is that it is NOT acceptable, whether it happens to them, or whether they do it to me or anyone else. Inflicting abuses on others because you had them inflicted on you only further propagates a cycle of abuse rather than actually dealing with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Groups of teens are now carjacking people EVERY.NIGHT. - https://twitter.com/Killmoenetwork/status/1627040838500126720

If you don't like living in a vibrant city then move to somewhere where abortion is illegal? No? Didn't think so!

Crime doesn't make for a "vibrant" city.

Part of city life is learning to live in close proximity with other people. Sometimes those other people will behave anti-socially. That’s part of vibrant urbanism that you need to accept and deal with.

You are the problem if you “accept” other people’s anti-social behavior when it comes to violent crime or any crime. But you are right about one thing, thank God i can “deal” with it by arming myself.

Not here you can't.

[Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/cordelltraffic/status/1628206904118837253?s=21&t=n0qeGoOuMm03Lc43eqHwSw

An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

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An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/cordelltraffic/status/1628206904118837253?s=21&t=n0qeGoOuMm03Lc43eqHwSw

An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.

The fist thing every carjacker and violent criminal in Bethesda does is flee to DC. That alone explains everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/cordelltraffic/status/1628206904118837253?s=21&t=n0qeGoOuMm03Lc43eqHwSw

An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.

I completely agree with you, but crime is up in cities and states that do not have these same policies. Something else is going on along with it. I’m honestly not sure what. The pandemic made people a little crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/cordelltraffic/status/1628206904118837253?s=21&t=n0qeGoOuMm03Lc43eqHwSw

An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.

No one has any idea what might work to either rehabilitate or deter offenders. There are only two practical choices in the US at the moment: incapacitate offenders via mass incarceration, or accept a higher level of crime than anyone wants with the attendant consequences on victims and social order. That’s it: everything else is just wishful thinking by those who want to avoid acknowledging this harsh truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Re-fund the police

+1000

The police were never defunded in MoCo. Try again.

Let’s be clear about this. They defunded the SRO program, and then brought back CEOs when they realized that was a mistake. They also disbanded the auto theft unit, and then brought that back when they realized their mistake. They just got rid of the community engagement division. (For how long?) I also guess they don’t need to defund since they aren’t paying a ton of salaries since they can’t fill vacancies.

Your post is about as clear as mud. Nothing but innuendo.

The fact is that MoCo has increased funding for the police. Period. In light of that fact, all of your rhetoric about “defunding” is blatantly disingenuous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always follow what goes on in Takoma Park because it exposes the true hypocrisy of Montgomery County government, because it’s where the county politicians and their supporters live. And what we see now is that they are going tough on crime in their neighborhood while preventing that same tough on crime policing throughout the rest of the county. This is how you know that these people don’t believe their own b.s. And it’s the same about everything.

Which County Council members live in Takoma Park?

Are you not capable of reading? You even bolded the text. It says, “it’s where the county politicians and their supporters live”. Who is the County Executive and where does he live?

Which County Council members live in Takoma Park?

DP. You don’t seem well versed in Montgomery County politics. Elrich lives in Takoma Park. Kate Stewart is the former mayor of Takoma Park. Before Stewart, there was Reimer, Hucker and Leventhal. Add to that Peter Franchot and Tom Perez. No one has won County Executive in over 15 years without winning Takoma Park in the primary. The base of county politics is Takoma Park.

You don’t seem well versed in

What, people can’t ask a question now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/cordelltraffic/status/1628206904118837253?s=21&t=n0qeGoOuMm03Lc43eqHwSw

An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.

No one has any idea what might work to either rehabilitate or deter offenders. There are only two practical choices in the US at the moment: incapacitate offenders via mass incarceration, or accept a higher level of crime than anyone wants with the attendant consequences on victims and social order. That’s it: everything else is just wishful thinking by those who want to avoid acknowledging this harsh truth.

That's not true. There are decades of research showing what does and what does not work. Evidence-based policing, prosecution, and violence prevention practices all get lost in the political posturing and self-promoting chatter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Re-fund the police

+1000

The police were never defunded in MoCo. Try again.

Let’s be clear about this. They defunded the SRO program, and then brought back CEOs when they realized that was a mistake. They also disbanded the auto theft unit, and then brought that back when they realized their mistake. They just got rid of the community engagement division. (For how long?) I also guess they don’t need to defund since they aren’t paying a ton of salaries since they can’t fill vacancies.

Your post is about as clear as mud. Nothing but innuendo.

The fact is that MoCo has increased funding for the police. Period. In light of that fact, all of your rhetoric about “defunding” is blatantly disingenuous.

They have cut staff and services. Funding has gone up because compensation has gone up. Nothing else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always follow what goes on in Takoma Park because it exposes the true hypocrisy of Montgomery County government, because it’s where the county politicians and their supporters live. And what we see now is that they are going tough on crime in their neighborhood while preventing that same tough on crime policing throughout the rest of the county. This is how you know that these people don’t believe their own b.s. And it’s the same about everything.

Which County Council members live in Takoma Park?

Not Council but Jamie Raskin lives there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always follow what goes on in Takoma Park because it exposes the true hypocrisy of Montgomery County government, because it’s where the county politicians and their supporters live. And what we see now is that they are going tough on crime in their neighborhood while preventing that same tough on crime policing throughout the rest of the county. This is how you know that these people don’t believe their own b.s. And it’s the same about everything.

Which County Council members live in Takoma Park?

Not Council but Jamie Raskin lives there.

The governor and other two Democratic candidates for governor (Moore, Franchot, Perez) all had Takoma Park roots. The County Executive (Elrich). The District 5 CM (Stewart). In the last Council session that ended in December there was Riemer and Hucker. Etc, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/cordelltraffic/status/1628206904118837253?s=21&t=n0qeGoOuMm03Lc43eqHwSw

An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.

The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.

No one has any idea what might work to either rehabilitate or deter offenders. There are only two practical choices in the US at the moment: incapacitate offenders via mass incarceration, or accept a higher level of crime than anyone wants with the attendant consequences on victims and social order. That’s it: everything else is just wishful thinking by those who want to avoid acknowledging this harsh truth.

That's not true. There are decades of research showing what does and what does not work. Evidence-based policing, prosecution, and violence prevention practices all get lost in the political posturing and self-promoting chatter.

Lay that out in more detail

[Anonymous]

How about we let criminals go to jail?