Satanic Temple to offer abortion services in New Mexico

Anonymous
Reposting this from the Jesus' Relatives thread where a Satanic Fangirl got it deleted, maybe for being OT.

When the antisemitic audio dropped, you see that The Satanic Temple claimed the audio was “heavily edited out of context”.

Well, here’s the full transcript of Lucien Greaves talking and choosing to associate with white nationalists to talk about forcible sterilization and many other subjects.

Feel free to listen to yourself if any of what you’ve heard is misleadingly edited. But you’ll probably find it’s even worse than you thought.

https://queersatanic.tumblr.com/post/6658839900021...lucien-greaves-im-an-aryan/amp

https://queersatanic.tumblr.com/post/6646075694673...is-right-24-hour-radio-special

Also, the head of the Satanic Temple pranked a suicide hotline. The transcript and call are at link.

He’s a garbage individual. He’s a supporter of eugenics.

If you support him or the Satanic Temple, you are garbage, also.
Anonymous
https://queersatanic.tumblr.com/post/6658839900021...lucien-greaves-im-an-aryan/amp

The Satanic Temple’s Lucien Greaves: “I’m an Aryan king!”

In 2018, audio surfaced of The Satanic Temple co-owner and co-founder Lucien Greaves engaging in a conversation of grotesque Jew-hatred.

CW: antisemitism

In lieu of closed captions, here is the transcript of that exchange, starting at “I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish, and they wear a stupid f@cking frisbee on their head and walk around [thinking] they’re God’s chosen people.”

Greaves, whose real name is Doug Misicko, was then using a different pseudonym of “Doug Mesner”, and is the first person you hear in the clip. He was co-hosting a 24-hour Internet radio stream with his friend Shane Bugbee and Shane’s wife Amy Bugbee, the other primary two voices in that clip. The laughing person is a caller, one Gerod Staaf.
Anonymous
Also: Doug/Lucien said the following:

You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

I am absolutely disgusted at the people who defend The Satanic Temple as some kind of higher authority and “Christ like” kind and loving institution built on rational thought, scientific principles, and moral convictions.

It’s a complete waste of time, led by a mean, racist, ignorant man.
Anonymous
^^^ I don’t take credit for any of the quotes, links or editorializing. Just reposting it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Their main goal is to demonstrate that religion has no place in government, schools, medical care, etc.


+1 This is so obvious. If people can not understand this, it is because they do not want to.
Anonymous
Ah the Satanic Church LOL

More power to the crazies still way better than any MAGA morons.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why is this happening in New Mexico when abortion is not threatened there?


Presumably the pills are being mailed to women in oppressed states where their freedoms have been stolen by fascist religious fanatics who hate America and all that it stands for.


I'm pro-choice and as left as they come, but... you need some chill pills yourself.

Also, there are plenty of places that will mail you pills without requiring you to sign on to their tenets, and who aren't nakedly eliciting donations. Just do a quick google search.


No, I won’t chill out about creeping fascism in this country and the erosion of women’s rights.

And the satanism hook to all this is the satire intended to remind us that is a thing. That’s why this is brilliant.



I’m pro-choice too. If the satanic temple really cared about helping women, they wouldn’t take advantage of women’s fear and panic as a membership, recruitment tool. Or pile on gratuitous layers of mindf*** around supporting if not adopting atheism (the temple membership requirement), Alito’s mom, or pseudo-religious tenets and rituals.

If the ST actually cared about women, they’d just do what all the other women’s health groups do. Which is conduct a zoom health screening and then simply mail out the pills.

If you support the ST’s layers of mindf*** for desperate women, you’re part of the problem.


I do not believe for a moment that you are “pro-choice” and believe you are sick-puppeting, OP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ah the Satanic Church LOL

More power to the crazies still way better than any MAGA morons.


Eugenics and naked anti-semitism are better than MAGA morons (who I agree are morons)? What’s wrong with you?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why is this happening in New Mexico when abortion is not threatened there?


Presumably the pills are being mailed to women in oppressed states where their freedoms have been stolen by fascist religious fanatics who hate America and all that it stands for.


I'm pro-choice and as left as they come, but... you need some chill pills yourself.

Also, there are plenty of places that will mail you pills without requiring you to sign on to their tenets, and who aren't nakedly eliciting donations. Just do a quick google search.


No, I won’t chill out about creeping fascism in this country and the erosion of women’s rights.

And the satanism hook to all this is the satire intended to remind us that is a thing. That’s why this is brilliant.



I’m pro-choice too. If the satanic temple really cared about helping women, they wouldn’t take advantage of women’s fear and panic as a membership, recruitment tool. Or pile on gratuitous layers of mindf*** around supporting if not adopting atheism (the temple membership requirement), Alito’s mom, or pseudo-religious tenets and rituals.

If the ST actually cared about women, they’d just do what all the other women’s health groups do. Which is conduct a zoom health screening and then simply mail out the pills.

If you support the ST’s layers of mindf*** for desperate women, you’re part of the problem.


I do not believe for a moment that you are “pro-choice” and believe you are sick-puppeting, OP.


I’ve donated multiple times to Planned Parenthood. But hey, go with the ad hominems because you have nothing else. Also, ask the moderator if I’m sock puppetting.

You’re not an impressive human being….
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To give you an idea, this place in Chevy Chase will mail you abortion pills: https://info.carafem.org/schedule-today-dc?gclid=CjwKCAiArY2fBhB9EiwAWqHK6qo4HHSr0shRxWOuBkGThnyMndzOmvaGL09Tm0g4SFAN-pzUqVAYSBoCcjkQAvD_BwE

It's really common. It doesn't have to be part of a publicity stunt, membership drive, or donation grab.

-- the other pro-choice Christian again.


Not for long. Trump judge may make the pills illegal. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/09/abortion-pill-trump-judge-possible-ban-mifepristone
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Anonymous wrote:Why is this happening in New Mexico when abortion is not threatened there?


Presumably the pills are being mailed to women in oppressed states where their freedoms have been stolen by fascist religious fanatics who hate America and all that it stands for.


I'm pro-choice and as left as they come, but... you need some chill pills yourself.

Also, there are plenty of places that will mail you pills without requiring you to sign on to their tenets, and who aren't nakedly eliciting donations. Just do a quick google search.


No, I won’t chill out about creeping fascism in this country and the erosion of women’s rights.

And the satanism hook to all this is the satire intended to remind us that is a thing. That’s why this is brilliant.



I’m pro-choice too. If the satanic temple really cared about helping women, they wouldn’t take advantage of women’s fear and panic as a membership, recruitment tool. Or pile on gratuitous layers of mindf*** around supporting if not adopting atheism (the temple membership requirement), Alito’s mom, or pseudo-religious tenets and rituals.

If the ST actually cared about women, they’d just do what all the other women’s health groups do. Which is conduct a zoom health screening and then simply mail out the pills.

If you support the ST’s layers of mindf*** for desperate women, you’re part of the problem.


I do not believe for a moment that you are “pro-choice” and believe you are sick-puppeting, OP.


I’ve donated multiple times to Planned Parenthood. But hey, go with the ad hominems because you have nothing else. Also, ask the moderator if I’m sock puppetting.

You’re not an impressive human being….


Naw, you're just not believable. It's not worth my time to go pestering the moderating about something I know to be true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To give you an idea, this place in Chevy Chase will mail you abortion pills: https://info.carafem.org/schedule-today-dc?gclid=CjwKCAiArY2fBhB9EiwAWqHK6qo4HHSr0shRxWOuBkGThnyMndzOmvaGL09Tm0g4SFAN-pzUqVAYSBoCcjkQAvD_BwE

It's really common. It doesn't have to be part of a publicity stunt, membership drive, or donation grab.

-- the other pro-choice Christian again.


Not for long. Trump judge may make the pills illegal. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/09/abortion-pill-trump-judge-possible-ban-mifepristone


Is there a reason that a pro-abortion group couldn't sue in an extremely liberal district seeking the opposite ruling (and nationwide injunction). It seems like conservative groups are so much better at this
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro-choice, but…

Coercing people to perform satanic rituals (recite two tenets of Satanism per someone’s post above) in exchange for an abortion hardly seems like an improvement. They can talk about not coercing women to get sonograms etc, but they’re still coercing.

All this “wink wink it’s sarcasm” doesn’t alleviate the trauma to a teenager who might still be religious but needs an abortion, and now she has to renounce her religion to get one.

Why couldn’t they just open the door to a doctor on staff?


That's not what the "ritual" is. The "ritual" is the abortion itself, and they're describing it this way to bring it under the protection of the First Amendment.


I get the part about bringing it under the first amendment via freedom of religion. But somebody’s post above clearly stated that women have to recite “two tenets of Satanism.” I have no idea what these tenets are, but they sure sound religious in a Satanic way. Also, that goes beyond the procedure itself to what the women believe. And that’s coercion.


Coercion of women is terrible. Remember mandatory vaginal wandings?

Just get religion and the govt out of gynecology and obstetrics. We will all be better off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is this happening in New Mexico when abortion is not threatened there?


Guess you spoke too soon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is this happening in New Mexico when abortion is not threatened there?


Presumably the pills are being mailed to women in oppressed states where their freedoms have been stolen by fascist religious fanatics who hate America and all that it stands for.


I'm pro-choice and as left as they come, but... you need some chill pills yourself.

Also, there are plenty of places that will mail you pills without requiring you to sign on to their tenets, and who aren't nakedly eliciting donations. Just do a quick google search.


No, I won’t chill out about creeping fascism in this country and the erosion of women’s rights.

And the satanism hook to all this is the satire intended to remind us that is a thing. That’s why this is brilliant.



I’m pro-choice too. If the satanic temple really cared about helping women, they wouldn’t take advantage of women’s fear and panic as a membership, recruitment tool. Or pile on gratuitous layers of mindf*** around supporting if not adopting atheism (the temple membership requirement), Alito’s mom, or pseudo-religious tenets and rituals.

If the ST actually cared about women, they’d just do what all the other women’s health groups do. Which is conduct a zoom health screening and then simply mail out the pills.

If you support the ST’s layers of mindf*** for desperate women, you’re part of the problem.


I also do not believe for a moment you are pro choice and your (feigned?) concern for these women being "coerced" - in a context where they are already being coerced by the govt - is at best misguided and at worst a total fabrication.

"No one is holding a gun to their heads" and making them get an abortion from Satanists. Right?
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