What is the future of heterosexual dating when the number of men attending college continues to drop

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No one quotes Covid year data as a trend line.

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Anonymous wrote:College dating is not a big thing anymore. It’s all situationships now. No one thinks they’re finding their spouse in college and the ones who do want to wait years after college to experience adult life before they get engaged.

Because there is too much promiscuity. That's the reason.

There's less promiscuity now than there was a generation ago.

This isn’t true at at all.

But it is true. Young people are having less sex overall. In 2021, over 20 percent of males under 35 reported not having had sex in the past year, and 19 percent of females of the same age group; in 2008, those groups' numbers were 8 and 7 percent, respectively.

Things like teen pregnancies are down when compared to the 80s and 90s. Among female teens, birth rates have gone down 77% in the past 30 years. In 1991, an estimated one-quarter of all 15-year-olds were to have a birth before they reached age 20. And this declined to 6% in 2021.

There are other issues at play. Birth control. Oral sex. STD's. Gay behavior. Addictions. Those who want sex can find it.

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Anonymous wrote:College dating is not a big thing anymore. It’s all situationships now. No one thinks they’re finding their spouse in college and the ones who do want to wait years after college to experience adult life before they get engaged.

Because there is too much promiscuity. That's the reason.

There's less promiscuity now than there was a generation ago.

This isn’t true at at all.

But it is true. Young people are having less sex overall. In 2021, over 20 percent of males under 35 reported not having had sex in the past year, and 19 percent of females of the same age group; in 2008, those groups' numbers were 8 and 7 percent, respectively.

Things like teen pregnancies are down when compared to the 80s and 90s. Among female teens, birth rates have gone down 77% in the past 30 years. In 1991, an estimated one-quarter of all 15-year-olds were to have a birth before they reached age 20. And this declined to 6% in 2021.

These number show that the top males are having all the sex. The less desirable men and women are out of luck.

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Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Go with the trad school man who works hard, likes kids, coaches sports, runs a business.
Plumbers, GCs, electricians, etc all run apprenticeship models and make a lot of money and can craft their hours on or off. And have great tax advisors writing off the $500k pick ups, home office, etc.

Open your eyes Op.

I think that's all fine however there aren't that many men willing to own their own business and then you run the risk of no one monitoring them. Where they go. What they do. How much marketing they do to keep the business running. This idea that every trade man is some clean cut guy who isn't going to do you wrong is nonsense.

Same can be said about white collar men and women.

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Maybe we should support our young men more so that they grow into the adult men that we want?

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Luckily it seems as if all of the under-20s have a sexual fluidity that we over 50 can only envy.

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Anyone looking to a man for emotional support is in for a rude awakening.

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Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Go with the trad school man who works hard, likes kids, coaches sports, runs a business.
Plumbers, GCs, electricians, etc all run apprenticeship models and make a lot of money and can craft their hours on or off. And have great tax advisors writing off the $500k pick ups, home office, etc.

Open your eyes Op.

But with the woman educated and thus making money she also wants an emotionally-supportive partner. Not just a financial provider like your post suggests.

The post says nothing negative or about lack of “emotional support.” If anything having time at 4pm to coach a kids sport is awesome. Plus make own hours.
And if you think overeducated heterosexual bankers, litigators, politicians, hedge funders are hitting it out if the park with emotional support for their wife, you’d better put your brain back in your skull and think again.

Exactly. People that marry for money barely see their husbands, at all but maybe that’s marriage to them as long as they can belong to a country club.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should support our young men more so that they grow into the adult men that we want?

Absolutely but telling them that their model is Trump with his multiple wives, infidelities, international wives, and poor business deals isn't really doing the job.

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Where is the data that shows that blue collar professions on average make more than white collar ones after paying back college loans?

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the data that shows that blue collar professions on average make more than white collar ones after paying back college loans?

You are missing the point. People without college aren’t the financial Berden that people think because they are making as much or more than their counterparts so stop using college as be all to end all, was the point.

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Anonymous wrote:Humans are generally pretty realistic about calculating where they will need to settle to find a mate. It will work itself out.

The nonsense about polygamy or a subset of men dating all the women is of course nonsense. The vast majority of people want normal traditional relationships and male educational attainment certainly isn’t enough to shake that.

It’s not at all nonsense – it’s very well-documented that this is what’s happening right now, not even at some point in the future, with online dating.

Because women generally have unreasonable dating standards (the college degree example in this thread being one of them), they only swipe right on the top 10-20% of men. So you have something approaching 100% of eligible women contacting 10-20% of all eligible men and ignoring the other 80-90%. This is a bonanza for the top-tier men and gives them no incentive to stick to only one woman. Hence all the complaints from women about the dating pool being only comprised of losers and players.

Women are essentially shooting themselves in the foot by clinging to such unreasonable standards.

This is absolutely not true. One tiny study (N of less than 20) showed something like this but larger studies showed women were incredibly reasonable.

Red Piller corners of the internet pedal this nonsense to scientifically illiterate people (like you!) creating a false narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we should support our young men more so that they grow into the adult men that we want?

Absolutely but telling them that their model is Trump with his multiple wives, infidelities, international wives, and poor business deals isn't really doing the job.

Lol yes tell us what you think of a SAHD or a man who makes less vs wife or a man without a college degree? Bottom line men are disposable. If a man needs support he is not type of man you want. Tell that to your sons!

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Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

The most accurate post so far. Thank you.

Except it’s clearly a lie. No one in “biglaw” represents individual contractors and car dealerships unless you literally mean Volkswagen and Skanska.

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Anonymous wrote:College dating is not a big thing anymore. It’s all situationships now. No one thinks they’re finding their spouse in college and the ones who do want to wait years after college to experience adult life before they get engaged.

Because there is too much promiscuity. That's the reason.

There's less promiscuity now than there was a generation ago.

This isn’t true at at all.

But it is true. Young people are having less sex overall. In 2021, over 20 percent of males under 35 reported not having had sex in the past year, and 19 percent of females of the same age group; in 2008, those groups' numbers were 8 and 7 percent, respectively.

Things like teen pregnancies are down when compared to the 80s and 90s. Among female teens, birth rates have gone down 77% in the past 30 years. In 1991, an estimated one-quarter of all 15-year-olds were to have a birth before they reached age 20. And this declined to 6% in 2021.

There are other issues at play. Birth control. Oral sex. STD's. Gay behavior. Addictions. Those who want sex can find it.

So there’s “too much promiscuity” because people who want sex and find it despite the data showing that young people are having less sex? You are wild.