Meeting invite for 8am meeting sent at 9pm the night before

[Anonymous]

So many pages of replies for a simple issue. Every workplace had a different culture. In some, OP would be in the wrong. In others, in the right. If OP's life doesn't fit her workplace culture, she should find another job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

How does WAH vs WOH change a 9pm email?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, do you not get your work emails pushed to your phone? I find it astonishing that any white collar professional does not and if a direct report told me they don’t I would really change my view of them.

OP here. I do, but I don’t actively check them at 9pm. Moreover, I have childcare commitments in the morning. I cannot devote 24/7 to my job.

And it doesn't seem like your job is asking that of you. Your boss screwed up in multiple ways sent you a meeting invite for a meeting you didn't need to attend/late scheduled at a time outside your core hours without alerting you. Boss didn't apologize but also didn't blame you. Boss made a mistake, let it go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

How does WAH vs WOH change a 9pm email?

Because she's be at work at 8 am otherwise, not dropping off her kid. You don't get work-life balance working from home, sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually find emails, slacks meetings between between 9 am and 4 pm annoying. They interrupt my day and pointless.

I like to shoot out slacks, very very very rare emails from 6-730 am
so I can get responses same day. I also like to repeat from 6-7pm to send deliverables or ask for info. I don’t expect responses right away but means often I have answers in morning or end of day.

I do like to do chats. I also like a morning scrum now and then 7-8:00am

Most of mom coworkers or staff with kids actually like my schedule. For instance my manager she gets up early on days she wants to hit gym after dropping kids off at school. She responds or forwards or follows up other people. She knows nights and mornings I am active. She then can drop kids off hit gym and be off line till 10ish. The other mom she is more of Evening person as class mom and does stuff with her child after school. She knows she can pop on line later in evening.

I looked at my emails today and noticed I sent 37 work emails in last two years. I also schedule meetings at most 2-3 times a month. I don’t send emails hardly ever and often respond in a chat, poke, slack.

During day I and staff we like to get work done and if kids need to be picked up, go to bus stop, heck even drop car off at dealership we can do it as pointless meetings are gone.

Plus we can catch up on weekdays or after work if we literally did nothing all day. It is more relaxing to work anytime than an assigned time.

People who are PITAs of strict work hours may not think it but they really stress folks out. Drives me nuts.

I still don’t see big deal checking your work stuff. I am holding my iPhone and will beep I have the slack and gmail app for work on phone, I also set up channels rather than my own slack or email name. So we do group messages. I also get shared Google docs. I jump on any time. Maybe while waiting up kid or at Starbucks even if Sunday morning,

You stress me out. Always ON and yet never committed to anything. Constantly looking at your phone or responding to every beep-chirp-ding like a trained dog.

[Anonymous]

If you have a work iphone with work email, then this is reasonable.

I don't have a work phone, nor access to work email until I log in (through several layers of security, so it's not a quick thing). I totally would have missed the meeting and I work 8:15-5pm usually. I often work late hours (like until midnight) but I schedule my emails to go out in the morning so that it's not obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

How does WAH vs WOH change a 9pm email?

Because she's be at work at 8 am otherwise, not dropping off her kid. You don't get work-life balance working from home, sorry!

You do realize that regardless of work location, people have staggered hours? There is nothing about working from home that precludes work-life balance. WAH is not I-dont-commute-so-I-am-available-24/7.

[Anonymous]

I had a coworker who did this. I had to block off time on my calendar as they would often schedule meetings at 7 or 8 am because they were working from home even though they included colleagues in our San Francisco and Seattle office. I start work at 8:30, but unless someone gives me a heads up, I don't like to get to work and have a meeting where I don't feel prepared. I try to block off my calendar until 9, but let people know that they can schedule a meeting with me outside those hours but I cannot meet at 7 am or 7:30. I hate blocking off time that I commute or walk my kids to school and home, but I've had too many meetings for a coworker with no boundaries where I'm walking up a hill. On the polar opposite is a coworker who blocks off her entire calendar (she is a manager), makng it impossible to use Outlook or Teams to schedule meetings. It is very frustrating and I've talked to her and our boss about it. Her calendar is blocked the entire day. She will schedule meetings during a huge all hands meeting or lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

How does WAH vs WOH change a 9pm email?

Because she's be at work at 8 am otherwise, not dropping off her kid. You don't get work-life balance working from home, sorry!

Says who? Very few people I know begin work at 8. I start at 8:30 and am the earliest one I know--many people I know don't begin until 10. And of course you get work life balance when you work from home. What a corporate brownnoser you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

How does WAH vs WOH change a 9pm email?

Because she's be at work at 8 am otherwise, not dropping off her kid. You don't get work-life balance working from home, sorry!

Says who? Very few people I know begin work at 8. I start at 8:30 and am the earliest one I know--many people I know don't begin until 10. And of course you get work life balance when you work from home. What a corporate brownnoser you are.

I still don’t get this. I see people at work log in before kid wakes up and often do meeting while walking kids to school or in car. What does one have to do with another.

What is so precious about 8am? I mean I dropped my kid off at practice every Monday at 330 pm. I got blue tooth and WiFi in car. I can do it and drop off kid same time. I have a 730 am meeting tomorrow. I can do it and still put breakfast out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who did this. I had to block off time on my calendar as they would often schedule meetings at 7 or 8 am because they were working from home even though they included colleagues in our San Francisco and Seattle office. I start work at 8:30, but unless someone gives me a heads up, I don't like to get to work and have a meeting where I don't feel prepared. I try to block off my calendar until 9, but let people know that they can schedule a meeting with me outside those hours but I cannot meet at 7 am or 7:30. I hate blocking off time that I commute or walk my kids to school and home, but I've had too many meetings for a coworker with no boundaries where I'm walking up a hill. On the polar opposite is a coworker who blocks off her entire calendar (she is a manager), makng it impossible to use Outlook or Teams to schedule meetings. It is very frustrating and I've talked to her and our boss about it. Her calendar is blocked the entire day. She will schedule meetings during a huge all hands meeting or lunch.

I one looks at calendars my office for meetings we just book. To many fake blocks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's frustrating, OP.

I've learned that while I'm pouring my morning cup of coffee to quickly check my work calendar to see what meetings I have that day. Doing that at 6am means I can see if anything popped up after I got offline the night before. My boss is one who often works at 10pm so this could totally happen to me.

I can’t just adjust last minute though, since I have to drop off my daughter. If I had known even during the day yesterday, I could have made arrangements.

I hear you but at least you could have declined the meeting rather than not knowing about it at all.

Fair enough. I guess I now need to be one of those people who is checking email at all hours. So much for work-life balance!

You asked for this by begging to work from home. Enjoy!

How does WAH vs WOH change a 9pm email?

Because she's be at work at 8 am otherwise, not dropping off her kid. You don't get work-life balance working from home, sorry!

Says who? Very few people I know begin work at 8. I start at 8:30 and am the earliest one I know--many people I know don't begin until 10. And of course you get work life balance when you work from home. What a corporate brownnoser you are.

I still don’t get this. I see people at work log in before kid wakes up and often do meeting while walking kids to school or in car. What does one have to do with another.

What is so precious about 8am? I mean I dropped my kid off at practice every Monday at 330 pm. I got blue tooth and WiFi in car. I can do it and drop off kid same time. I have a 730 am meeting tomorrow. I can do it and still put breakfast out.

Whether multitasking is possible is entirely dependent on the nature of the meeting. You seem incredibly narrow minded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the meeting occurred outside of your set hours and the request was sent after core office hours then no, the meeting was not set at a reasonable time. You weren't given enough notification to adjust your hours.

OP is not an hourly employee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the meeting occurred outside of your set hours and the request was sent after core office hours then no, the meeting was not set at a reasonable time. You weren't given enough notification to adjust your hours.

OP is not an hourly employee.

OP here. I know what PP means. It’s simply about adjusting your day.