What the admissions looks like after Supreme Court band affirmative action?

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Anonymous wrote:As populations and wealth continue to grow outside the US and American universities remain the gold standard, I'd expect there to continue to be far more international competition in the future too (more specifically from Asia, primarily China and India). This will further impact how classes might look geographically and racially.

I worry that this continuing trend might make it even tougher for some in the US too.

Add in the children of nightly skilled and/or highly motivated migrants and this is at least part of the answer why it is getting more and more competitive
I am an immigrant myself and trust me parent communities are very focused

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Highly skilled!

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Anonymous wrote:It's very likely SCOTUS will ban affirmative action in late June 2023 decision.

Once that happens -affirmative action will immediately be banned as a factor.

So what happens then for HS classes of 2024 onward? Will private colleges voluntarily ban legacy preference? I have heard a number of Ivies are discussing this to have ready to announce.

Will more public schools offer the Texas model of guaranteed admit for top 10% of each high school in the state?

Would love a sober discussion of this here....

While SCOTUS may ban affirmative action and/or the use of race in college admissions, it will not ban using first generation and lower income backgrounds as factors. And since a disproportionate share of URMs are either first generation and/or lower income, there may not be that big of an impact. Plus, colleges can always consider how an applicant has overcome adversity as expressed in a personal essay (e.g., overcame discrimination).

Nope, by headcount, there are many, many more poor whites than poor URMs. I think it's a fallacy of people who live in liberal urban areas on the coasts that the poor people are overwhelmingly black. Rural poverty actually looks very different.

I think they're going to add zip code into the equation. In America your zipcode is pretty much your destiny.

Poor white children live in better neighborhoods than middle class black kids. That alone speaks volumes.

Trust... affirmativeaction will go away but still exist lol

Lol. I’m guessing you’ve never been to Appalachia? Standardized test scores have historically been the best way for poor kids to distinguish themselves. The analysis that the UC system did before axing SAT requirements said that it was the single best predictor of college success, especially for poor and minority students. Standardized testing is being eliminated precisely because it works, and colleges can’t use objective measures and still balance the demographics they way they want.

Poor white kids in Appalachia taking the SAT en masse?

Really?

Don't think so.

Test optional will help them too.

The SAT is a racket with higher scores driven by household income.

The variability within HHI deciles is vastly greater than the variability between HHI deciles. In fact, when you add in parental educational level, HHI no longer predicts test scores. And yes, poor white kids in Appalachia who want to go to college take the SAT/ACT.

The poverty, life expectancy, and college attainment percentage in Appalachia suggests otherwise.