DS refusing to consider anything other than the south, southeast, TX and CA

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California I get but Texas and the South?

I'd seriously be depressed if my kid decided to move to the South. We lived in Atlanta for 5 years in what is probably the least racist area - right near Emory and CDC. Guess what? It's still pretty racist and while there are overwhelming numbers of educated and progressive people, there are still a ton of really backward, toothless Trumpanzees.

OP - does your son realize that while colleges have a lot of transplants that might be more progressive, the surrounding areas are pretty scary?

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Anonymous wrote:Not going to a state that treats women like a uterus with legs is a pretty easy choice, AFAIAC.

This!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote: I am absolutely making abortion access a factor on where my DD goes to college.

If this is truly a factor in where your DD goes to college, then you have raised her with the morals of an alley cat. Sorry, but that's the truth.

You have raised her to value and respect women's rights. Same for our sons. Having women treated as second class citizens is not good for anyone.

That's not what the PP's post implies. She states that it is important to her daughter's college choice that she has abortion access. Any 18-21 YO young woman who makes important life decisions such as where she goes to college based on the fact that she may not be able to get an easy abortion has the morals of an alley cat. I stand by my earlier comment.

Some if these young people are well educated, informed, and concerned about women's rights. Try educating your kids about important issues...they might appreciate it.

Way to deflect the point. Anyone this concerned about easy abortion access when she goes to college does not sound well-educated or informed at all. In fact, it sounds like she's going to college for the "experience," shall we say, rather to actually receive an education.

Way to miss the point. You write like someone very ignorant and inexperienced with reproductive issues. If you had experience with pregancy, childbirth, miscarriage, menstruation, infertility, contraception, etc. etc... you would understand thst reproductive rights are about a fundamental right of women to control critical decisions about their lives.

You have no idea to whom you're talking. But this is not about me. It's about an 18 year old girl and an obviously overly-domineering mother who is sadly putting her own misguided political anger ahead of what may be in her DD's desires and best interests.

If you think it wise to send DC off to college in texas than have at it. These unjust, backwards, draconian laws are no joke and my kids will understand exactly what they are about.

They make their own decisions and they don't want to live in Texas and some others backwards states for very good reason.

Sure, mama, keep talking. No one believes you. You would give your left arm for your kids to get into Rice, or Duke, or Emory, etc., and you know it.

Emory in Georgia? That's a no. Duke in NC? Nope. Rice in Texas? Definitely no thanks.

Of course the fact that your kid has about a .05% chance to get into any of these has absolutely no impact on your sanctimonious statement.

You'd give anything for your kid to get into any of these schools, and plenty of others in the south. You're fooling no one.

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Don’t 4get Vandy in Tennessee! Goop’s daughter is attending.

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Anonymous wrote:Point out to him which states don't allow abortion. Is that a state he wants to support? Something both my sons have talked about a lot in the last couple of months.

Maybe more to the point, make sure he understands that if he impregnantes his girlfriend in one of those states, he's going to be a father with everything that entails in terms of his life plans.

I agree those states are terrible, but don't you think a typical college student (and her family) will find the resources to end the pregnancy if that is desired?

Of course they will. Drive to another state.

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Anonymous wrote:Californians are moving to Texas in droves. Its only a matter of time they'll make it ultra liberal and go bankrupt.

It’s already happened in Austin.

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Anonymous wrote:Point out to him which states don't allow abortion. Is that a state he wants to support? Something both my sons have talked about a lot in the last couple of months.

Maybe more to the point, make sure he understands that if he impregnantes his girlfriend in one of those states, he's going to be a father with everything that entails in terms of his life plans.

I agree those states are terrible, but don't you think a typical college student (and her family) will find the resources to end the pregnancy if that is desired?

Of course they will. Drive to another state.

If you aren’t stuck in an ER

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Anonymous wrote:Californians are moving to Texas in droves. Its only a matter of time they'll make it ultra liberal and go bankrupt.

It’s already happened in Austin.

Austin is bankrupt?

I have heard rumors of Transplants trying to leave again

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Anonymous wrote: On the practical/financial side, one of my kids was a 7 hour drive away from home. Short school breaks (4 days or less), he could not come home.

I went to school an 8 hour drive from home. I went home for Thanksgiving, winter break, spring break and summer. Not too many people went home on weekends anyway.

+1. Same. 8 hour drive or 1.5 hr direct flight from home and I went home for thanksgiving, Christmas break, spring break, and of course summer. however, admittedly flying and driving/gas prices were both much cheaper back then—early 2000s. I could usually fly home round trip for under $100 which wouldn’t be possible anymore. I usually drove anyway to have more flexibility on when I left/returned and so I’d have a car at home once I got there.

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Anonymous wrote:California I get but Texas and the South?

I'd seriously be depressed if my kid decided to move to the South. We lived in Atlanta for 5 years in what is probably the least racist area - right near Emory and CDC. Guess what? It's still pretty racist and while there are overwhelming numbers of educated and progressive people, there are still a ton of really backward, toothless Trumpanzees.

OP - does your son realize that while colleges have a lot of transplants that might be more progressive, the surrounding areas are pretty scary?

Um…lots of major cities in the south—Atlanta included—are predominantly black and reliably (in the city itself anyway) vote democratic. Of course racism is everywhere (not just the south by any means) but I don’t think it makes sense to call a place like the city of Atlanta that’s majority black and has a black mayor and many black elected officials racist.

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Anonymous wrote: I am absolutely making abortion access a factor on where my DD goes to college.

If this is truly a factor in where your DD goes to college, then you have raised her with the morals of an alley cat. Sorry, but that's the truth.

You have raised her to value and respect women's rights. Same for our sons. Having women treated as second class citizens is not good for anyone.

That's not what the PP's post implies. She states that it is important to her daughter's college choice that she has abortion access. Any 18-21 YO young woman who makes important life decisions such as where she goes to college based on the fact that she may not be able to get an easy abortion has the morals of an alley cat. I stand by my earlier comment.

Some if these young people are well educated, informed, and concerned about women's rights. Try educating your kids about important issues...they might appreciate it.

Way to deflect the point. Anyone this concerned about easy abortion access when she goes to college does not sound well-educated or informed at all. In fact, it sounds like she's going to college for the "experience," shall we say, rather to actually receive an education.

Way to miss the point. You write like someone very ignorant and inexperienced with reproductive issues. If you had experience with pregancy, childbirth, miscarriage, menstruation, infertility, contraception, etc. etc... you would understand thst reproductive rights are about a fundamental right of women to control critical decisions about their lives.

You have no idea to whom you're talking. But this is not about me. It's about an 18 year old girl and an obviously overly-domineering mother who is sadly putting her own misguided political anger ahead of what may be in her DD's desires and best interests.

If you think it wise to send DC off to college in texas than have at it. These unjust, backwards, draconian laws are no joke and my kids will understand exactly what they are about.

They make their own decisions and they don't want to live in Texas and some others backwards states for very good reason.

Sure, mama, keep talking. No one believes you. You would give your left arm for your kids to get into Rice, or Duke, or Emory, etc., and you know it.

As a UT grad thatwas home this summer, my only comment is - IT'S HOT AS SIN IN TEXAS. DS might not like the snow and cold, but can she handle the HEAT? That is a totally different jam. Politics aside, my kids could not tolerate it and were so uncomfortable. And it's not going to cool down in the coming years. Tell DS to go to CA

Wouldn't he get summer off from may to September, unlike cold places where school is in session for whole winter minus two weeks!

You have clearly never been to Texas. It is 90+ well into October, and the heat starts in March/April. It is tolerable between Nov-Feb. Halloween is so freaking hot it makes trick-or-treating miserable.

There *can* be hot days in Texas in the fall, but this is silly. The average high in Dallas in October is 80. It is the first week of September, and the forecast is for Dallas to be in the high 80’s this week. They *might* barely pass 90 one day. Other than Houston, it’s much drier than DC, so the heat isn’t as miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:Californians are moving to Texas in droves. Its only a matter of time they'll make it ultra liberal and go bankrupt.

It’s already happened in Austin.

Austin is bankrupt?

I have heard rumors of Transplants trying to leave again

We can only hope.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheapest way to live on the coast of California is in the dorms at UC-Santa Barbara. If I could do it all over again....

Love the Southeast.

Grad school / Professional school is more important.

Don't forget UC-San Diego which is in a beautiful location as well!

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Anonymous wrote: I am absolutely making abortion access a factor on where my DD goes to college.

If this is truly a factor in where your DD goes to college, then you have raised her with the morals of an alley cat. Sorry, but that's the truth.

You have raised her to value and respect women's rights. Same for our sons. Having women treated as second class citizens is not good for anyone.

That's not what the PP's post implies. She states that it is important to her daughter's college choice that she has abortion access. Any 18-21 YO young woman who makes important life decisions such as where she goes to college based on the fact that she may not be able to get an easy abortion has the morals of an alley cat. I stand by my earlier comment.

Some if these young people are well educated, informed, and concerned about women's rights. Try educating your kids about important issues...they might appreciate it.

Way to deflect the point. Anyone this concerned about easy abortion access when she goes to college does not sound well-educated or informed at all. In fact, it sounds like she's going to college for the "experience," shall we say, rather to actually receive an education.

Way to miss the point. You write like someone very ignorant and inexperienced with reproductive issues. If you had experience with pregancy, childbirth, miscarriage, menstruation, infertility, contraception, etc. etc... you would understand thst reproductive rights are about a fundamental right of women to control critical decisions about their lives.

You have no idea to whom you're talking. But this is not about me. It's about an 18 year old girl and an obviously overly-domineering mother who is sadly putting her own misguided political anger ahead of what may be in her DD's desires and best interests.

If you think it wise to send DC off to college in texas than have at it. These unjust, backwards, draconian laws are no joke and my kids will understand exactly what they are about.

They make their own decisions and they don't want to live in Texas and some others backwards states for very good reason.

Sure, mama, keep talking. No one believes you. You would give your left arm for your kids to get into Rice, or Duke, or Emory, etc., and you know it.

Emory in Georgia? That's a no. Duke in NC? Nope. Rice in Texas? Definitely no thanks.

Of course the fact that your kid has about a .05% chance to get into any of these has absolutely no impact on your sanctimonious statement.

You'd give anything for your kid to get into any of these schools, and plenty of others in the south. You're fooling no one.

There are over 20 stars where abortion is effectively banned or soon to be.

There are excellent college choices in states that have some respect for women and protect their rights by law.

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If your DC never lived in those warm weather locations, it may not be what they expected. I grew up in a tropical city and hated it, too hot and humid with pollution and those insects and bugs(huge roaches in Hawaii).
I prefer cooler locations.