why don't more SAHMs become nannies when kids are in college?

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Anonymous wrote:They are lazy. Duh. Hard to work after hanging out for a few years.

Most SAHMs are useless and unemployable. I can’t tell you how many are in our neighborhood, yet still have cleaning services, lawn services, nannies, and countless other contracted services to avoid doing any work.

I am going to take you seriously. When you go to work, you do one job maybe two and yet you expect SAHM or ( dads) to do all the jobs) you mentioned. How is that fair? We are not slaves! I assume you have nannies, yard service and cleaning service too? Why can't SAHM's? They stay home to raise the children, not mow the lawn. And if you can afford cleaning service why not?

Raising a child isn’t a full-time job. Don’t pretend that it is.

Yes it is or why would one need a nanny.

Right? How are people paying a nanny for 40+hrs/week and also insisting it isn’t a full time job? Like it very literally is for your nanny and it would be your job if you weren’t paying someone to do it.

You can’t be serious! No one needs a nanny. I could spend 40 hours drinking a cup of coffee. That doesn’t mean it should take 40 hours. Nannys exist to service indolent and shiftless SAHMs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend had three kids at expensive colleges all at once - the eldest and a set of twins who were a year apart. She'd married young and even though she was married to an IBM engineer, the tuition was a lot. Since she felt her only job skills were taking care of little kids, she started a preschool. It was a meaningful and profitable venture.

The family's finances eased up a bit and by the time the fourth and youngest child went to college, she went too and earned an art degree. Today she is a successful artist with gallery shows under her belt.

Why does society feel that the care of small children is a menial task?

To answer your question in one word, misogyny.

That is awesome for your mom's friend. Well done!

+1. Love this. Also I agree that childcare work is severely undervalued and does not get the respect it deserves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are lazy. Duh. Hard to work after hanging out for a few years.

Most SAHMs are useless and unemployable. I can’t tell you how many are in our neighborhood, yet still have cleaning services, lawn services, nannies, and countless other contracted services to avoid doing any work.

I am going to take you seriously. When you go to work, you do one job maybe two and yet you expect SAHM or ( dads) to do all the jobs) you mentioned. How is that fair? We are not slaves! I assume you have nannies, yard service and cleaning service too? Why can't SAHM's? They stay home to raise the children, not mow the lawn. And if you can afford cleaning service why not?

Raising a child isn’t a full-time job. Don’t pretend that it is.

Yes it is or why would one need a nanny.

Right? How are people paying a nanny for 40+hrs/week and also insisting it isn’t a full time job? Like it very literally is for your nanny and it would be your job if you weren’t paying someone to do it.

You can’t be serious! No one needs a nanny. I could spend 40 hours drinking a cup of coffee. That doesn’t mean it should take 40 hours. Nannys exist to service indolent and shiftless SAHMs.

Most people with nannys have FT jobs. They are hiring someone to watch the kids because they are at work

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Um, let me think about it. No way!

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I would consider it! I love babies and I’ll definitely be providing childcare for my grandkids if I have them and my kids want it. If not I always thought it would be fun to do some Pt work as a nanny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are lazy. Duh. Hard to work after hanging out for a few years.

Most SAHMs are useless and unemployable. I can’t tell you how many are in our neighborhood, yet still have cleaning services, lawn services, nannies, and countless other contracted services to avoid doing any work.

Yep, they need "supports" to raise their own children.

I am a SAHM who outsources most chores. I do not consider raising my child a chore or a task that someone else should do for me. I am the mom and I gave birth to my baby.

I did not do chores when I was a wohm, and I certainly did not do them as a sahm. My DH and I would rather spend our time with our baby, and pay good money to free up our time by outsourcing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are lazy. Duh. Hard to work after hanging out for a few years.

Most SAHMs are useless and unemployable. I can’t tell you how many are in our neighborhood, yet still have cleaning services, lawn services, nannies, and countless other contracted services to avoid doing any work.

I am going to take you seriously. When you go to work, you do one job maybe two and yet you expect SAHM or ( dads) to do all the jobs) you mentioned. How is that fair? We are not slaves! I assume you have nannies, yard service and cleaning service too? Why can't SAHM's? They stay home to raise the children, not mow the lawn. And if you can afford cleaning service why not?

Raising a child isn’t a full-time job. Don’t pretend that it is.

You're right it's more that a full time job. 24/7.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how being a nanny is just considered an anyone can do it, kind of job. We literally get no respect.

I’ve worked as a professional nanny for 25 years and earn over $100k. If you want to be a high earning nanny, you need to devote yourself to the job, and most people don’t want to do that. I invest thousand every year in continuing education. My training (beyond university) includes ECE, Montessori, doula, newborn care specialist, advanced first aid and cpr, emergency medical care, child nutrition, ADHD, autism, and special needs coursework.

Being a nanny is a job that some of us take quite seriously and no, just being a stay at home mom doesn’t necessarily qualify you to earn above average wages.

I think this thread made it very obvious to all readers that the vast majority of SAHMs are unqualified to become nannies. They don’t like kids, they don’t like schedules and they don’t want to be told what to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are lazy. Duh. Hard to work after hanging out for a few years.

Most SAHMs are useless and unemployable. I can’t tell you how many are in our neighborhood, yet still have cleaning services, lawn services, nannies, and countless other contracted services to avoid doing any work.

I am going to take you seriously. When you go to work, you do one job maybe two and yet you expect SAHM or ( dads) to do all the jobs) you mentioned. How is that fair? We are not slaves! I assume you have nannies, yard service and cleaning service too? Why can't SAHM's? They stay home to raise the children, not mow the lawn. And if you can afford cleaning service why not?

Raising a child isn’t a full-time job. Don’t pretend that it is.

Yes it is or why would one need a nanny.

Right? How are people paying a nanny for 40+hrs/week and also insisting it isn’t a full time job? Like it very literally is for your nanny and it would be your job if you weren’t paying someone to do it.

There are part time nanny jobs too - aftercare for school aged kids for example. This seems to a very sought after arrangement for most WOHMs with kids 5 and older.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend had three kids at expensive colleges all at once - the eldest and a set of twins who were a year apart. She'd married young and even though she was married to an IBM engineer, the tuition was a lot. Since she felt her only job skills were taking care of little kids, she started a preschool. It was a meaningful and profitable venture.

The family's finances eased up a bit and by the time the fourth and youngest child went to college, she went too and earned an art degree. Today she is a successful artist with gallery shows under her belt.

Why does society feel that the care of small children is a menial task?

To answer your question in one word, misogyny.

That is awesome for your mom's friend. Well done!

+1. Love this. Also I agree that childcare work is severely undervalued and does not get the respect it deserves.

Most working parents just can’t pay more. It’s sad but true.

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Anonymous wrote:People want young nannies to be able to keep up with the kids and have fun with them. No one wants a 50 yo empty nester with bad knees and an iffy back.

Plus, the last thing I'd want to do after raising my kids is turn around and raise someone else's kids.

My 55-year-old nanny was of the best things that ever happened to me. Employed her for four years full-time until we moved.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here--it's a super interesting conversation so I'm glad I asked! Altogether it has reminded me why I appreciate our nanny so much. From this post, most UMC women only have love for their own children--do you think nannies don't feel the same way? And yet they haul themselves up to work (mainly due to lack of choices and that nannying is a way to make decent money even with just a HS or less education, etc) and yes, mine does love my children and I am forever grateful for her. It's all a choice, and I'm thankful for the people who are willing to choose in.

Agree overall w/the posts on how we need to value and pay domestic work more.

You make it sound like it is a bad thing to have love for your children. Yes I care about other children but, not as a career. I am sure you do get to love your charges but, just like there are some parents who don't love their children there are nannies that don't love their charges. We are telling you why we personally wouldn't want to nanny.

Staying home is not all roses but, you do it for the love of your children. It would not be worth it to me to deal with the downsides of being a nanny. Being a mom is more flexible but, if you get angry because I gave a small cookie instead of a carrot ( once in a blue moon) than I couldn't handle the nit picking! I get it because when you pay someone you have higher standards but, I am not interested.

You don’t love your kids more because you stayed at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how being a nanny is just considered an anyone can do it, kind of job. We literally get no respect.

I’ve worked as a professional nanny for 25 years and earn over $100k. If you want to be a high earning nanny, you need to devote yourself to the job, and most people don’t want to do that. I invest thousand every year in continuing education. My training (beyond university) includes ECE, Montessori, doula, newborn care specialist, advanced first aid and cpr, emergency medical care, child nutrition, ADHD, autism, and special needs coursework.

Being a nanny is a job that some of us take quite seriously and no, just being a stay at home mom doesn’t necessarily qualify you to earn above average wages.

I think this thread made it very obvious to all readers that the vast majority of SAHMs are unqualified to become nannies. They don’t like kids, they don’t like schedules and they don’t want to be told what to do.

That does not make them unqualified, it makes them unwilling. Big difference. No sahm needs to nanny so entitled people like op can have the convince of a nanny. If she does not want to stay home with her kids, why should someone else. There is day care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend had three kids at expensive colleges all at once - the eldest and a set of twins who were a year apart. She'd married young and even though she was married to an IBM engineer, the tuition was a lot. Since she felt her only job skills were taking care of little kids, she started a preschool. It was a meaningful and profitable venture.

The family's finances eased up a bit and by the time the fourth and youngest child went to college, she went too and earned an art degree. Today she is a successful artist with gallery shows under her belt.

Why does society feel that the care of small children is a menial task?

To answer your question in one word, misogyny.

That is awesome for your mom's friend. Well done!

+1. Love this. Also I agree that childcare work is severely undervalued and does not get the respect it deserves.

Most working parents just can’t pay more. It’s sad but true.

With a nanny many can. They may have to change their housing, travel and other expenses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My mom's best friend had three kids at expensive colleges all at once - the eldest and a set of twins who were a year apart. She'd married young and even though she was married to an IBM engineer, the tuition was a lot. Since she felt her only job skills were taking care of little kids, she started a preschool. It was a meaningful and profitable venture.

The family's finances eased up a bit and by the time the fourth and youngest child went to college, she went too and earned an art degree. Today she is a successful artist with gallery shows under her belt.

Why does society feel that the care of small children is a menial task?

It’s about choice. Op will not care for her kids so she is demanding someone else do it. She is selfish and self serving.