Why not close the achievement gap from the top down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS’ equity program, SBG program and now restorative justice program are doing exactly what the OP has suggested. Sadly they are doing it to great effect. So now everyone in FCPS suffers. Congratulations Superintendent Reid, mission accomplished!

When did that start?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our society is already so lopsided as far as the top 1% owning practically everything.

And I’m sorry but no kid needs advanced calculus in high school.

Why not narrow the achievement gap by finding ways to lower the test results for the top performers?

Merit matters. My kid needs rigor in education. I am not buying the equity bs.
If your kid cannot cut it due to mature and nurture, it is not my problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s just close all the schools and not teach anyone anything. Then we can all raise illiterate children who are equal.

+1 also, lobotomies for smart people!

+1 also, no women should be educated or have access to birth control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our society is already so lopsided as far as the top 1% owning practically everything.

And I’m sorry but no kid needs advanced calculus in high school.

Why not narrow the achievement gap by finding ways to lower the test results for the top performers?

Really, in a way you are correct in that in a number of countries it is available in middle school. So many would have taken it before then.

Hopefully the person designing the bridges that we need replaced in this country have taken some level of higher math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS’ equity program, SBG program and now restorative justice program are doing exactly what the OP has suggested. Sadly they are doing it to great effect. So now everyone in FCPS suffers. Congratulations Superintendent Reid, mission accomplished!

When did that start?

It is hard to stay on top of all the screwed up things Reid is doing - https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-wellness/restorative-justice

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Anonymous wrote:I mean isn't this what schools are already doing!? They ignore top performers and have the top performers help the other kids.

What school does that?

My kid's FCPS school did exactly that. Even as young as first grade, the above grade level reading group saw the teacher at most once per week for 15 minutes. The below grade level groups saw the teacher every day for 30 minutes. For any group projects, the above grade level kids were paired with struggling kids. This dynamic continued through 6th grade, with the above grade level kids getting even less of the teacher's time and much more independent work.

That describes the harmful “cooperative learning” model perfectly:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_learning

Sorry for your daughter’s experience. Cooperative learning harms so many advanced learners by intentionally holding them back.

This happens all the time in Loudoun as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS’ equity program, SBG program and now restorative justice program are doing exactly what the OP has suggested. Sadly they are doing it to great effect. So now everyone in FCPS suffers. Congratulations Superintendent Reid, mission accomplished!

When did that start?

It is hard to stay on top of all the screwed up things Reid is doing - https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-wellness/restorative-justice

Vote republicans on to the FCPS school board and maybe they can stop Michelle Reid’s extremist “social justice” initiatives harming our school system.

If you vote for democrats again, things will only get worse. Much worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS’ equity program, SBG program and now restorative justice program are doing exactly what the OP has suggested. Sadly they are doing it to great effect. So now everyone in FCPS suffers. Congratulations Superintendent Reid, mission accomplished!

When did that start?

It is hard to stay on top of all the screwed up things Reid is doing - https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-wellness/restorative-justice

Vote republicans on to the FCPS school board and maybe they can stop Michelle Reid’s extremist “social justice” initiatives harming our school system.

If you vote for democrats again, things will only get worse. Much worse.

How can we be certain republicans wont continue the same extremist nonsense being pursued by current democratic board?

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Anonymous wrote:If you study the achievement gap, you’ll know that high school isn’t the issue. Neither is calculus. Neither is TJ (although whether we should have public, selective high schools and what their admission process should be is a separate and valid issue). The problem is in the early grades.

Plus nobody believes advanced calculus is the ticket to great wealth.

Sorry, but if you add in early childhood research the pattern is set before age 2.

By age 2 Hispanic children are the same a white in socialization but behind in vocabulary (in home language).

There are initiatives to teach parents patterns of interaction that raise this (serve and return conversations etc)

It is set very very early and the gap is there well before Kindergarten.

Sorry, not sorry. And not convinced by your weak argument.

For decades, pols pushed for more money to be thrown at expensive “head start” programs.

The money’s been spent, but it has not meaningfully changed things. So your premise is faulty.

Research. I don’t care about your opinion. I’m sure you don’t trust science, but here is the research.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543291/

Here are the findings since you will not bother to read it:

As has been suggested by others, children with greater vocabulary may be better able to regulate their behavior using self-talk or mental symbolic representations to control their impulses (Barkley, 1997; Vallotton & Ayoub, 2011). It is also possible that children who use more words are better able to express themselves and have a better sense of control in their environment, leading to less frustration accompanied by better growth in inhibitory control skills (Vallotton & Ayoub, 2011). The findings from the present study suggest that interventions aimed at improving school readiness skills for Spanish-speaking Hispanic children should start early and target early verbal abilities in the child’s home language.

I am not talking about money, but how different cultures talk to their infants that in part make the achievement gap.

That you are ignorant of early childhood research doesn’t make my premise faulty.

That said, the biggest predictor of a child’s achievement in school is maternal income.

Guess what Dobbs just did- took more women out of the workforce. SO if you are upset about money, you should know that the R’s just considerably widened the achievement gap and it will take more money to be pro-life.

Glad you only get one vote- yours and mine cancel each other out!!!

Your post flails about, but ultimately makes little sense.

Federal head start programs do not work, and the research proves that fact:

https://www.cato.org/blog/us-government-our-head-start-program-doesnt-work

Hilarious - quoting a Cato Institute blog post as "fact" is like quoting Vladimir Putin on Ukrainian History.
So folks know how bad that Cato drive-by-shooting is, it's two "sources" are a dead link and - crack me up - the New York POST!
I'm laughing so hard I might just pee myself!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS’ equity program, SBG program and now restorative justice program are doing exactly what the OP has suggested. Sadly they are doing it to great effect. So now everyone in FCPS suffers. Congratulations Superintendent Reid, mission accomplished!

When did that start?

It is hard to stay on top of all the screwed up things Reid is doing - https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-wellness/restorative-justice

Vote republicans on to the FCPS school board and maybe they can stop Michelle Reid’s extremist “social justice” initiatives harming our school system.

If you vote for democrats again, things will only get worse. Much worse.

How can we be certain republicans wont continue the same extremist nonsense being pursued by current democratic board?

Republicans certainly have their share of bad ideas but I think the point is to have a bit of viewpoint diversity so light can be shed on bad leftist ideas. No one I'm on the board is doing that right now because they're either leftists or left enough to not want to say anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our society is already so lopsided as far as the top 1% owning practically everything.

And I’m sorry but no kid needs advanced calculus in high school.

Why not narrow the achievement gap by finding ways to lower the test results for the top performers?

Really, in a way you are correct in that in a number of countries it is available in middle school. So many would have taken it before then.

Hopefully the person designing the bridges that we need replaced in this country have taken some level of higher math.

Wait, are we talking calculus here or actual advanced calculus (multivariable, Euclidian space, etc.)? I find it hard to believe the latter is offered in middle school anywhere and am frankly shocked that it is even offered in high school, as I did not take this type of course until second year of university in a STEM program…

[Anonymous]

As the parent of two advanced students it’s terrifying to me that people actually think like OP. OP, are you by any chance a Fairfax County school board member?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As the parent of two advanced students it’s terrifying to me that people actually think like OP. OP, are you by any chance a Fairfax County school board member?

This is progressivism in 2023. They are as illiberal and every bit as nuts as MAGAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As the parent of two advanced students it’s terrifying to me that people actually think like OP. OP, are you by any chance a Fairfax County school board member?

Every member of the current and incoming FCPS school board believes in closing the achievement gap from the top down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By age 18, IQ is 80% genetic. The rest of the influence is random effects and noise. There is very little influence of family behaviors on adult IQ.

Hence we need to improve learning and health at the root cause: Higher quality DNA.

Hear hear! People with IQs under 90 shouldn’t be allowed to procreate. Neuter them all!

While we are at it, districts should totally be a thing too, right? May the odds be ever in your favor.

/s