Duke Senior’s Commencement Speech Appears to Plagiarize 2014 Address by Harvard Student

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not defending her but it's possible that she didn't think of it as plagiarism. Other countries don't have the same concept of plagiarism and copyright we do.

I've seen plenty of Indian movies that are word-for-word copies of American movies.

So she was presumably cheating her way through a Duke bachelor's, too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not defending her but it's possible that she didn't think of it as plagiarism. Other countries don't have the same concept of plagiarism and copyright we do.

I've seen plenty of Indian movies that are word-for-word copies of American movies.

So she was presumably cheating her way through a Duke bachelor's, too?

No way. All colleges bend over to indoctrinate on no plagiarism rules right from the start. Look at UVA’s honor code for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Next year's commencement speech will be titled "This is Water".

Funniest comment in the entire thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not defending her but it's possible that she didn't think of it as plagiarism. Other countries don't have the same concept of plagiarism and copyright we do.

I've seen plenty of Indian movies that are word-for-word copies of American movies.

She attended an American college. I'm sure that many professors discussed plagiarism in their classes, especially at Duke.

But what was said in her high school? I grew up abroad and we knew not to copy stuff straight from books word for wordbut there wasn't the obsession shown in US high with the need to write out the honor code on every test and essay. This was pre-interwebs though.

[Anonymous]

Her “apology” started off disingenuously… she was not asked to give the commencement speech- she was selected after entering an outline and draft of the speech, as Duke was quick to respond.

Her willingness to double down shows her inherent dishonesty …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not defending her but it's possible that she didn't think of it as plagiarism. Other countries don't have the same concept of plagiarism and copyright we do.

I've seen plenty of Indian movies that are word-for-word copies of American movies.

She attended an American college. I'm sure that many professors discussed plagiarism in their classes, especially at Duke.

But what was said in her high school? I grew up abroad and we knew not to copy stuff straight from books word for wordbut there wasn't the obsession shown in US high with the need to write out the honor code on every test and essay. This was pre-interwebs though.

Doesn’t matter what she learned in high school. Colleges like Duke explain what plagiarism is in all forms. Also, she worked for the school newspaper. She can’t argue that she didn’t know or that standards of plagiarism are different in her country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her “apology” started off disingenuously… she was not asked to give the commencement speech- she was selected after entering an outline and draft of the speech, as Duke was quick to respond.

Her willingness to double down shows her inherent dishonesty …

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not defending her but it's possible that she didn't think of it as plagiarism. Other countries don't have the same concept of plagiarism and copyright we do.

I've seen plenty of Indian movies that are word-for-word copies of American movies.

She attended an American college. I'm sure that many professors discussed plagiarism in their classes, especially at Duke.

But what was said in her high school? I grew up abroad and we knew not to copy stuff straight from books word for wordbut there wasn't the obsession shown in US high with the need to write out the honor code on every test and essay. This was pre-interwebs though.

Why are you trying to find excuses for her?

[Anonymous]

Be human. Have some sympathy. What she did was wrong— no doubt about it- but she is a young adult. She is mortified and humiliated. Show compassion.

[Anonymous]

She spent a fortune on her undergraduate degree and they never taught her the fine art of paraphrasing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to excuse what she did, but most people here have no clue about her. She is a Pakistani Hindu. Do any of you know what that means? It's pretty much like growing up Jewish under in early Nazi Germany Young Hindu girls are abducted frequently in Pakistan and forced into marriage after conversion with no way to escape because once they convert, leaving Islam carries the death penalty in Pakistan. If you resist you could get killed. Like this case.... Btw, this Duke girl is from the same province, Sindh...

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/18-year-old-hindu-girl-shot-dead-in-pakistan-following-failed-abduction-attempt-article-90364537

The blasphemy laws are insane in Pakistan. You say something even a little uppity and you can get lynched to death like this one

https://www.geo.tv/latest/387095-sialkot-lynching-horrific-and-inhumane

So you have to be really really really nice. Speak extra sweet, never act uppity, never say that you are being ill treated, lest you piss off some crazy dude.


The constant stress of growing up in such a country, scars you forever. She is definitely "NOT ENTITLED". The only reason she got to attend Duke is because she got a full ride, because her family is too poor to send her to school in the US but she must have been really good academically in Pakistan.

I don't know why she did what she did, but she is not some privileged Asian striver

+1. Lots of jaded White people here, mostly jealous that their kid didn't make it to a school like Duke or became a valedictorian.

[Anonymous]

The whole thing is disgusting.

Harvard and Duke wanted diverse show ponies and these ladies obliged in the most stereotypical, cringe way possible. Both speeches were too cutesy by far. That's worse than the lack of originality.

And the delighted schadenfreude oozing from some of these posts is revolting. Grow up. This girl did something stupid and wrong and she will spend the rest of her life paying for it which is more than we can say for most of the old men running this broken world of ours.

The whole situation and everyone involved in it make me sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to excuse what she did, but most people here have no clue about her. She is a Pakistani Hindu. Do any of you know what that means? It's pretty much like growing up Jewish under in early Nazi Germany Young Hindu girls are abducted frequently in Pakistan and forced into marriage after conversion with no way to escape because once they convert, leaving Islam carries the death penalty in Pakistan. If you resist you could get killed. Like this case.... Btw, this Duke girl is from the same province, Sindh...

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/18-year-old-hindu-girl-shot-dead-in-pakistan-following-failed-abduction-attempt-article-90364537

The blasphemy laws are insane in Pakistan. You say something even a little uppity and you can get lynched to death like this one

https://www.geo.tv/latest/387095-sialkot-lynching-horrific-and-inhumane

So you have to be really really really nice. Speak extra sweet, never act uppity, never say that you are being ill treated, lest you piss off some crazy dude.


The constant stress of growing up in such a country, scars you forever. She is definitely "NOT ENTITLED". The only reason she got to attend Duke is because she got a full ride, because her family is too poor to send her to school in the US but she must have been really good academically in Pakistan.

I don't know why she did what she did, but she is not some privileged Asian striver

Uh did you miss the fact she went to a Tony private school?

Ok. Let me explain something to you, since your are probably unaware of it. Most of the Hindus left over in Pakistan are Dalit, i e. Untouchables. Do you know what work they do? They are sewer cleaners. They physically enter sick disgusting smelling putrid hellholes and clean them without masks, gloves or any protective gear. It's the worst job anybody can do and it pays shit. That's all infidels can aspire to in the failed state of Pakistan, unless they convert. Whatever school this girl attended was on a scholarship or grant by some other generous foundation or because somebody in the family agreed you convert to Christianity to get into a Christian private school. Her parents probably make less than $50 a month if they are lucky. How can I be sure? because of the way her last name is spelled.

[Anonymous]

Regardless, the wit, wisdom, and insights of these speeches are remarkable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to excuse what she did, but most people here have no clue about her. She is a Pakistani Hindu. Do any of you know what that means? It's pretty much like growing up Jewish under in early Nazi Germany Young Hindu girls are abducted frequently in Pakistan and forced into marriage after conversion with no way to escape because once they convert, leaving Islam carries the death penalty in Pakistan. If you resist you could get killed. Like this case.... Btw, this Duke girl is from the same province, Sindh...

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/18-year-old-hindu-girl-shot-dead-in-pakistan-following-failed-abduction-attempt-article-90364537

The blasphemy laws are insane in Pakistan. You say something even a little uppity and you can get lynched to death like this one

https://www.geo.tv/latest/387095-sialkot-lynching-horrific-and-inhumane

So you have to be really really really nice. Speak extra sweet, never act uppity, never say that you are being ill treated, lest you piss off some crazy dude.


The constant stress of growing up in such a country, scars you forever. She is definitely "NOT ENTITLED". The only reason she got to attend Duke is because she got a full ride, because her family is too poor to send her to school in the US but she must have been really good academically in Pakistan.

I don't know why she did what she did, but she is not some privileged Asian striver

Uh did you miss the fact she went to a Tony private school?

Ok. Let me explain something to you, since your are probably unaware of it. Most of the Hindus left over in Pakistan are Dalit, i e. Untouchables. Do you know what work they do? They are sewer cleaners. They physically enter sick disgusting smelling putrid hellholes and clean them without masks, gloves or any protective gear. It's the worst job anybody can do and it pays shit. That's all infidels can aspire to in the failed state of Pakistan, unless they convert. Whatever school this girl attended was on a scholarship or grant by some other generous foundation or because somebody in the family agreed you convert to Christianity to get into a Christian private school. Her parents probably make less than $50 a month if they are lucky. How can I be sure? because of the way her last name is spelled.

Just in case you think, I'm making this shit up

Sewer Cleaners Wanted in Pakistan: Only Christians Need Apply.

https://nyti.ms/2z8fddA

You folks have no idea what this kid has been through. Mouse of you would crumble if you had to live a month in her shoes, su don't assume she is like some upper crust one percenter from the east or west coast