Why do people think it's okay to let their dog shout at people who walk by?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:#1 reason I can't stand dogs. Most people are way too lazy to train them well.

dp Sorry that dogs are not the perfect robots you want them to be. Do you always react well under every circumstances?

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Anonymous wrote:My golden retriever senses people outside from well within the house, nowhere near a window, and will automatically start barking. It drives me nuts and we have tried everything to stop it but it's hard to overcome instinct.

I have seen this play out and have wondered how they are able to do this? Do you know?

No idea. Often, we don't even see or hear anything outside until he points (barks) it out to us. Sometimes he barks at something outside and there's nothing there. Who knows?

And I don't think its a pent-up energy issue. He does this regardless.

Dp their hear/smell is so much better than ours!

https://www.inverse.com/science/how-far-away-can-dogs-smell-hear

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have an Akita who alerts us when someone approaches the house with a woof. If they continue to come up to the door, he will stand at the door and watch. If they were to try to come in, he would bark like crazy and probably bite. I couldn't stand to have a dog that barks all the time and I do judge other dog owners that don't get the barking under control. You can and should train your dog to "quiet: under command.

Perfect example of someone who owns a “serious” breed and has trained it. Now if only the doodle owners could do the same…

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Anonymous wrote:I don't allow my children to sit at the front windows/door of my home screaming threats and cursing at ever person who walks by...

Why do people think it's okay for their dogs to do this?

I'm a dog lover. I have a 2-year-old, high-energy dog, who would love to bark at every person/dog/squirrel/mailman. But I don't allow him because it's rude and he is not allowed to threaten people.

Yet, it never ceases to amaze me on a walk through our neighborhood how many dogs are aggressively barking at us as we pass - low-pitched, rapid barking, often jumping up on the windows/doors. They bark at me, my kids, my dog...

I feel especially annoyed at people who allow their dogs to do this to the mail carriers. Mail carriers do a really hard job anyway, they shouldn't have to feel terrified because your dog attacks the door when they drop off your Amazon package. One time, I saw a UPS driver leap down a neighbor's front steps, sprinting away from a house with an aggressive-sounding dog lunging at the glass door and barking.

Not to mention the people who just leave their aggressive barking dogs out alone in the yard to surprise terrorize anyone who walks by... You think your just walking by another fence and then cujo is suddenly right next to you!

I can't imagine why their owners think this is okay and they don't train their dog? Maybe just that they don't realize what their dogs are "saying"? Do they realize and they just don't care?

I have a related question: why do people think leaf blowers twice a week, three hours at a time is acceptable to your neighbors/neighborhood?

You're in the Pet forum.

I can't imagine how anyone is running a leaf blower for 3 hours at a time, but... there are groups better suited for your issue. If you are in NOVA check out Clean, Quiet NOVA.

You're welcome.

This is the whole raison d'etre for NextDoor.

[Anonymous]

This post is about "aggressively barking at us as we pass - low-pitched, rapid barking, often jumping up on the windows/doors. They bark at me, my kids, my dog..." not just dogs barking a few times inside your home.

Read the OP.

[Anonymous]

get off my lawn, Karen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:#1 reason I can't stand dogs. Most people are way too lazy to train them well.

dp Sorry that dogs are not the perfect robots you want them to be. Do you always react well under every circumstances?

Do you react poorly and loudly to 90% of the people and dogs who walk by your house? Maybe you need training too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:get off my lawn, Karen.

In DC, it's not your lawn, it's the cities. Go back to the suburbs Suzie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post is about "aggressively barking at us as we pass - low-pitched, rapid barking, often jumping up on the windows/doors. They bark at me, my kids, my dog..." not just dogs barking a few times inside your home.

Read the OP.

The dog is jumping on windows and doors -- still inside the home, I believe. If someone was walking their dog up to someone else's window and door, that would be an issue, barking or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't allow my children to sit at the front windows/door of my home screaming threats and cursing at ever person who walks by...

Why do people think it's okay for their dogs to do this?

I'm a dog lover. I have a 2-year-old, high-energy dog, who would love to bark at every person/dog/squirrel/mailman. But I don't allow him because it's rude and he is not allowed to threaten people.

Yet, it never ceases to amaze me on a walk through our neighborhood how many dogs are aggressively barking at us as we pass - low-pitched, rapid barking, often jumping up on the windows/doors. They bark at me, my kids, my dog...

I feel especially annoyed at people who allow their dogs to do this to the mail carriers. Mail carriers do a really hard job anyway, they shouldn't have to feel terrified because your dog attacks the door when they drop off your Amazon package. One time, I saw a UPS driver leap down a neighbor's front steps, sprinting away from a house with an aggressive-sounding dog lunging at the glass door and barking.

Not to mention the people who just leave their aggressive barking dogs out alone in the yard to surprise terrorize anyone who walks by... You think your just walking by another fence and then cujo is suddenly right next to you!

I can't imagine why their owners think this is okay and they don't train their dog? Maybe just that they don't realize what their dogs are "saying"? Do they realize and they just don't care?

I have a related question: why do people think leaf blowers twice a week, three hours at a time is acceptable to your neighbors/neighborhood?

You're in the Pet forum.

I can't imagine how anyone is running a leaf blower for 3 hours at a time, but... there are groups better suited for your issue. If you are in NOVA check out Clean, Quiet NOVA.

You're welcome.

Oh my, you haven't met my neighbor. Three hours is a good day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Actual letter carrier here. So, I don't mind the dogs that bark when I walk up on the porch-if they are inside, they are not threatening me.

I do have a couple who not only bark, but bodily fling themselves at the door and windows as I deliver their mail. THAT is weird. I take it as aggression. One broke out a pane of glass one day. I've had a coworker have a dog crash through a glass storm door-injuring both the mailman and the dog. I don't understand why people keep aggressive dogs like this! The ones whose dog broke the pane of glass, they just had a baby, and they've got that aggressive dog in there with her.

That is really scary. I’m sorry you have to deal with this.

Our mailman carries a big box of treats. You can see it in his mail truck as he passes. Smart guy!

Letter carrier PP here. Unfortunately, it's not smart. It teaches the dog to approach the carrier for a treat. So when the next carrier goes to deliver (maybe it's the regular's vacation, maybe it's amazon or ups) the dog will run towards them for a treat-but this looks like aggression to the person, who doesnt know this dog.

[Anonymous]

We have a Great Pyrenees. It’s her nature.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is the strongest instinct in a dog to guard it's people and the hardest to train out.

Just ignore them. They aren't biting you, following you off leash through town - so who cares.

We pass a house (walking our dog) where 2 dogs throw themselves at the glass and bark. I just find it funny. My dog doesn't care and often pees on their lawn while watching them go insane. It is irrelevant.

I disagree. It depends a lot on the breed. Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Doberman, Pit Bull, sure... But, then you better be on top of training if you want to own a protective breed like that in DC. People who own breeds like that know you can't let them aggressively bark at the window or door, unless you want them to bite people who come into your home.

It's not commonly those people who seem to be the problem though.

In my neighborhood, it is often doodles. Those breeds are not supposed to have guarding instincts (golden retrievers, poodles, labs, etc). On the guarding bell curve, these breeds are definitely on the low/no guarding side. So, that's not the dog's instincts, that's just not training the dog.

You sound really relaxed, which is nice. And, you obviously have a trained dog and are not the problem.

I would gently point out though, that you say your dog "doesn't care." But, peeing after a threatening situation is a way that dogs diffuse stress. It's the same reason that very little puppies pee themselves when greeting dogs/people that they think are intimidating. Your dog does care, he/she is actually quite diplomatic, your dog is trying to calm the other dogs down and make it clear there's no fight. Instead of barking back (fighting), your dog is redirecting (Here, smell this and get to know me a bit! Everything's okay dudes)

You are the biggest idiot on this thread. ALL dogs guard and I hate to break it to you but they all pee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't allow my children to sit at the front windows/door of my home screaming threats and cursing at ever person who walks by...

Why do people think it's okay for their dogs to do this?

I'm a dog lover. I have a 2-year-old, high-energy dog, who would love to bark at every person/dog/squirrel/mailman. But I don't allow him because it's rude and he is not allowed to threaten people.

Yet, it never ceases to amaze me on a walk through our neighborhood how many dogs are aggressively barking at us as we pass - low-pitched, rapid barking, often jumping up on the windows/doors. They bark at me, my kids, my dog...

I feel especially annoyed at people who allow their dogs to do this to the mail carriers. Mail carriers do a really hard job anyway, they shouldn't have to feel terrified because your dog attacks the door when they drop off your Amazon package. One time, I saw a UPS driver leap down a neighbor's front steps, sprinting away from a house with an aggressive-sounding dog lunging at the glass door and barking.

Not to mention the people who just leave their aggressive barking dogs out alone in the yard to surprise terrorize anyone who walks by... You think your just walking by another fence and then cujo is suddenly right next to you!

I can't imagine why their owners think this is okay and they don't train their dog? Maybe just that they don't realize what their dogs are "saying"? Do they realize and they just don't care?

I have a related question: why do people think leaf blowers twice a week, three hours at a time is acceptable to your neighbors/neighborhood?

You're in the Pet forum.

I can't imagine how anyone is running a leaf blower for 3 hours at a time, but... there are groups better suited for your issue. If you are in NOVA check out Clean, Quiet NOVA.

You're welcome.

Oh my, you haven't met my neighbor. Three hours is a good day.

What does he do, walk in circles for 3 hours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is the strongest instinct in a dog to guard it's people and the hardest to train out.

Just ignore them. They aren't biting you, following you off leash through town - so who cares.

We pass a house (walking our dog) where 2 dogs throw themselves at the glass and bark. I just find it funny. My dog doesn't care and often pees on their lawn while watching them go insane. It is irrelevant.

I disagree. It depends a lot on the breed. Rottweiler, German Shepherd, Doberman, Pit Bull, sure... But, then you better be on top of training if you want to own a protective breed like that in DC. People who own breeds like that know you can't let them aggressively bark at the window or door, unless you want them to bite people who come into your home.

It's not commonly those people who seem to be the problem though.

In my neighborhood, it is often doodles. Those breeds are not supposed to have guarding instincts (golden retrievers, poodles, labs, etc). On the guarding bell curve, these breeds are definitely on the low/no guarding side. So, that's not the dog's instincts, that's just not training the dog.

You sound really relaxed, which is nice. And, you obviously have a trained dog and are not the problem.

I would gently point out though, that you say your dog "doesn't care." But, peeing after a threatening situation is a way that dogs diffuse stress. It's the same reason that very little puppies pee themselves when greeting dogs/people that they think are intimidating. Your dog does care, he/she is actually quite diplomatic, your dog is trying to calm the other dogs down and make it clear there's no fight. Instead of barking back (fighting), your dog is redirecting (Here, smell this and get to know me a bit! Everything's okay dudes)

You are the biggest idiot on this thread. ALL dogs guard and I hate to break it to you but they all pee.

Let’s just say things without knowing what we’re talking about, that’s fun. It’s called displacement behavior, conflict-avoidance behavior, and sometimes seen as a calming signal. Of course all dogs pee, thank you for your insightful observation. However, when there is a history of a regular pattern of dogs barking at your dog, and then he responds by peeing in front of them, then clues point toward this being a more significant behavior pattern to investigate - the most obvious reasoning being conflict-avoidance marking, which is very typical in dogs.