BASIS DC precomps and comps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't what you're alluding to. Please explain.

I can tell you that there's growing concern in the hs parent community about inter-connected issues: inadequate teacher pay, what looks like a higher drop off rate to Walls than in the past, unimpressive hs ecs as compared to ms ecs and this year's somewhat disappointing admissions results.

In the last few years, hs parents grew accustomed to seeing ivy admits, mainly for Yale, Harvard and Princeton. It's not lost on us that Walls and JR had ivy successes this year, and not just for low SES minority applicants or recruited athletes (mostly from the JR crew team).

We wouldn't be as concerned if the head of school didn't blow off our concerns as a general rule. Some of us, particularly those with hs students with ms sibs, are hoping that he leaves. He's much more interested in the ms than the hs, which has become a problem.

Odd post. If you were actually a BASIS parent you'd know that they are going to start matching DCPS pay scale. So either you are another troll or so disengaged that seems like we should dismiss what you have to say. Also, # of BASIS kids matriculating to Walls is down, not up.

There are certainly things about BASIS I would improve. I prefer to focus on reality. But hey, you do you.

NP. OK, but where are you getting up-to-the-minute status on the # of BASIS 8th Graders heading to Walls this year? We're under the impression that more are leaving for Walls this year than last, but then we're not looking at...data.

I'll believe BASIS matching DCPS pay scale and benefits for long serving teachers if that happens. The evidence suggests that BASIS can't afford/sustain staff outlays on that level. Come on, matching DCPS starting salaries is one thing. A DC charter keeping older teachers on what DCPS pays them is another.

You might want to calling posters names when their carefully observed impressions of BASIS are different than yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't what you're alluding to. Please explain.

I can tell you that there's growing concern in the hs parent community about inter-connected issues: inadequate teacher pay, what looks like a higher drop off rate to Walls than in the past, unimpressive hs ecs as compared to ms ecs and this year's somewhat disappointing admissions results.

In the last few years, hs parents grew accustomed to seeing ivy admits, mainly for Yale, Harvard and Princeton. It's not lost on us that Walls and JR had ivy successes this year, and not just for low SES minority applicants or recruited athletes (mostly from the JR crew team).

We wouldn't be as concerned if the head of school didn't blow off our concerns as a general rule. Some of us, particularly those with hs students with ms sibs, are hoping that he leaves. He's much more interested in the ms than the hs, which has become a problem.

Odd post. If you were actually a BASIS parent you'd know that they are going to start matching DCPS pay scale. So either you are another troll or so disengaged that seems like we should dismiss what you have to say. Also, # of BASIS kids matriculating to Walls is down, not up.

There are certainly things about BASIS I would improve. I prefer to focus on reality. But hey, you do you.

NP. OK, but where are you getting up-to-the-minute status on the # of BASIS 8th Graders heading to Walls this year? We're under the impression that more are leaving for Walls this year than last, but then we're not looking at...data.

I'll believe BASIS matching DCPS pay scale and benefits for long serving teachers if that happens. The evidence suggests that BASIS can't afford/sustain staff outlays on that level. Come on, matching DCPS starting salaries is one thing. A DC charter keeping older teachers on what DCPS pays them is another.

You might want to calling posters names when their carefully observed impressions of BASIS are different than yours.

So, to summarize, the school publicly says they are going to match DCPS and you "don't believe it"? You go on to say that facts are the same as impressions as long as the facts don't comport with your impressions? There is no point in having discussions with people like you. Why not just reply FAKE NEWS.

The more I read DCUM, the more I realize the DC liberals who predominate parrot MAGA "logic".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't what you're alluding to. Please explain.

I can tell you that there's growing concern in the hs parent community about inter-connected issues: inadequate teacher pay, what looks like a higher drop off rate to Walls than in the past, unimpressive hs ecs as compared to ms ecs and this year's somewhat disappointing admissions results.

In the last few years, hs parents grew accustomed to seeing ivy admits, mainly for Yale, Harvard and Princeton. It's not lost on us that Walls and JR had ivy successes this year, and not just for low SES minority applicants or recruited athletes (mostly from the JR crew team).

We wouldn't be as concerned if the head of school didn't blow off our concerns as a general rule. Some of us, particularly those with hs students with ms sibs, are hoping that he leaves. He's much more interested in the ms than the hs, which has become a problem.

Odd post. If you were actually a BASIS parent you'd know that they are going to start matching DCPS pay scale. So either you are another troll or so disengaged that seems like we should dismiss what you have to say. Also, # of BASIS kids matriculating to Walls is down, not up.

There are certainly things about BASIS I would improve. I prefer to focus on reality. But hey, you do you.

NP. OK, but where are you getting up-to-the-minute status on the # of BASIS 8th Graders heading to Walls this year? We're under the impression that more are leaving for Walls this year than last, but then we're not looking at...data.

I'll believe BASIS matching DCPS pay scale and benefits for long serving teachers if that happens. The evidence suggests that BASIS can't afford/sustain staff outlays on that level. Come on, matching DCPS starting salaries is one thing. A DC charter keeping older teachers on what DCPS pays them is another.

You might want to calling posters names when their carefully observed impressions of BASIS are different than yours.

So, to summarize, the school publicly says they are going to match DCPS and you "don't believe it"? You go on to say that facts are the same as impressions as long as the facts don't comport with your impressions? There is no point in having discussions with people like you. Why not just reply FAKE NEWS.

The more I read DCUM, the more I realize the DC liberals who predominate parrot MAGA "logic".

I'm not the poster you're responding to but am a BASIS parent (heading into the high school). I also see problems with BASIS announcing that they're planning to match DCPS salaries because DC charters don't get the same per student outlays as DCPS. Their outlays are at least 15% lower across the board.

Now that BASIS is going to BASIS starts paying young teachers like DCPS, something's gotta give eventually. To my knowledge, BASIS DC doesn't have a strong track record of fundraising to draw in private grants to top up its public funding. There's concern in the parent community that what's going to happen once teachers salaries match DCPS is that parents are going to have to make up the difference to avoid cuts to ECs and other forms of enrichment. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Some of us don't know what to believe. Yea, we've embraced MAGA logic for sure.

[Anonymous]

I'm wondering about this myself. BASIS already sends messages to parents hitting us up for donations to top up teachers salaries at least once a month.

Will they start sending them weekly?

[Anonymous]

Maybe interested BASIS parents can look for grants like PTA parents do at the elementary level?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The college counseling has been a mess - BASIS higher ups and the parents may care about the Ivy admits, but the counselors seem to care most about hose much scholarship money comes in - these things are often at odds with each other, since Ivies don't have "scholarships" and many "middle class" DC families aren't going to receive that much in financial aid.

The problem with the high school is that it's really small and there often aren't the numbers for ECs. It would be very smart of the administration to figure out a way to use the system to partner with other small charters in order to field teams (and get fields). This is not something parents can do on their own.

But is Walls really better at counseling and having a variety of ECs?

[Anonymous]

Walls definitely isn't better at counseling. It is better letting kids get on with academics rather than focusing manically on applying to college. Walls students continue to take AP classes through senior year, so they're not cramming them all into sophomore and junior years, leaving much more time for ECs. We've had one child go through Walls and one through BASIS. Dual enrollment worked well for us at Walls, particularly for access to fantastic GW science labs and college-level language and music courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Walls definitely isn't better at counseling. It is better letting kids get on with academics rather than focusing manically on applying to college. Walls students continue to take AP classes through senior year, so they're not cramming them all into sophomore and junior years, leaving much more time for ECs. We've had one child go through Walls and one through BASIS. Dual enrollment worked well for us at Walls, particularly for access to fantastic GW science labs and college-level language and music courses.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on academics at Walls vs. BASIS. I have a kid heading to Walls (from BASIS) in the fall and am a bit worried the academics won't be as good/challenging (only one science class - whoa ). I was VERY impressed with the classes and coursework at BASIS for middle school (kid made choice to try out a new school, branch out).

[Anonymous]

Science at Walls isn't half as good as at BASIS overall but math and physics are just as good (there's a multivariate calc class this year for just three of four students). You can make do at Walls with AP Bio and Chem but they don't necessarily teach both every year. Languages are much better with some kids moving on to college language courses at GW. Humanities are as good or better. The best part about Walls for us has been that there are more strong students than at BASIS and teachers are better overall, more experienced, many older teachers who really know what they're doing. Facility is better but not great. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't what you're alluding to. Please explain.

I can tell you that there's growing concern in the hs parent community about inter-connected issues: inadequate teacher pay, what looks like a higher drop off rate to Walls than in the past, unimpressive hs ecs as compared to ms ecs and this year's somewhat disappointing admissions results.

In the last few years, hs parents grew accustomed to seeing ivy admits, mainly for Yale, Harvard and Princeton. It's not lost on us that Walls and JR had ivy successes this year, and not just for low SES minority applicants or recruited athletes (mostly from the JR crew team).

We wouldn't be as concerned if the head of school didn't blow off our concerns as a general rule. Some of us, particularly those with hs students with ms sibs, are hoping that he leaves. He's much more interested in the ms than the hs, which has become a problem.

Odd post. If you were actually a BASIS parent you'd know that they are going to start matching DCPS pay scale. So either you are another troll or so disengaged that seems like we should dismiss what you have to say. Also, # of BASIS kids matriculating to Walls is down, not up.

There are certainly things about BASIS I would improve. I prefer to focus on reality. But hey, you do you.

NP. OK, but where are you getting up-to-the-minute status on the # of BASIS 8th Graders heading to Walls this year? We're under the impression that more are leaving for Walls this year than last, but then we're not looking at...data.

I'll believe BASIS matching DCPS pay scale and benefits for long serving teachers if that happens. The evidence suggests that BASIS can't afford/sustain staff outlays on that level. Come on, matching DCPS starting salaries is one thing. A DC charter keeping older teachers on what DCPS pays them is another.

You might want to calling posters names when their carefully observed impressions of BASIS are different than yours.

So, to summarize, the school publicly says they are going to match DCPS and you "don't believe it"? You go on to say that facts are the same as impressions as long as the facts don't comport with your impressions? There is no point in having discussions with people like you. Why not just reply FAKE NEWS.

The more I read DCUM, the more I realize the DC liberals who predominate parrot MAGA "logic".

I'm not the poster you're responding to but am a BASIS parent (heading into the high school). I also see problems with BASIS announcing that they're planning to match DCPS salaries because DC charters don't get the same per student outlays as DCPS. Their outlays are at least 15% lower across the board.

Now that BASIS is going to BASIS starts paying young teachers like DCPS, something's gotta give eventually. To my knowledge, BASIS DC doesn't have a strong track record of fundraising to draw in private grants to top up its public funding. There's concern in the parent community that what's going to happen once teachers salaries match DCPS is that parents are going to have to make up the difference to avoid cuts to ECs and other forms of enrichment. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Some of us don't know what to believe. Yea, we've embraced MAGA logic for sure.

Human capital expenditures need to be funded with committed dollars. No school can or would sign contracts without budgetary commitments. They can't and won't sign contracts with the hope of making up a shortfalls later. That's why the fundraised dollars aren't distributed as bonuses until end of year when they know how much funding they have.

Sorry if the MAGA line hit close to home. When you express hardened, ill informed opinions based on fears not grounded in laws, finance and feels a lot like the the Orange Monster's peeps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walls definitely isn't better at counseling. It is better letting kids get on with academics rather than focusing manically on applying to college. Walls students continue to take AP classes through senior year, so they're not cramming them all into sophomore and junior years, leaving much more time for ECs. We've had one child go through Walls and one through BASIS. Dual enrollment worked well for us at Walls, particularly for access to fantastic GW science labs and college-level language and music courses.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on academics at Walls vs. BASIS. I have a kid heading to Walls (from BASIS) in the fall and am a bit worried the academics won't be as good/challenging (only one science class - whoa ). I was VERY impressed with the classes and coursework at BASIS for middle school (kid made choice to try out a new school, branch out).

Do you have any insight into how many of your kid's 8th grade friends are peeling off for Walls next year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walls definitely isn't better at counseling. It is better letting kids get on with academics rather than focusing manically on applying to college. Walls students continue to take AP classes through senior year, so they're not cramming them all into sophomore and junior years, leaving much more time for ECs. We've had one child go through Walls and one through BASIS. Dual enrollment worked well for us at Walls, particularly for access to fantastic GW science labs and college-level language and music courses.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on academics at Walls vs. BASIS. I have a kid heading to Walls (from BASIS) in the fall and am a bit worried the academics won't be as good/challenging (only one science class - whoa ). I was VERY impressed with the classes and coursework at BASIS for middle school (kid made choice to try out a new school, branch out).

Do you have any insight into how many of your kid's 8th grade friends are peeling off for Walls next year?

The ones we know of all turned Walls down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walls definitely isn't better at counseling. It is better letting kids get on with academics rather than focusing manically on applying to college. Walls students continue to take AP classes through senior year, so they're not cramming them all into sophomore and junior years, leaving much more time for ECs. We've had one child go through Walls and one through BASIS. Dual enrollment worked well for us at Walls, particularly for access to fantastic GW science labs and college-level language and music courses.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on academics at Walls vs. BASIS. I have a kid heading to Walls (from BASIS) in the fall and am a bit worried the academics won't be as good/challenging (only one science class - whoa ). I was VERY impressed with the classes and coursework at BASIS for middle school (kid made choice to try out a new school, branch out).

Do you have any insight into how many of your kid's 8th grade friends are peeling off for Walls next year?

The ones we know of all turned Walls down.

Im a current Basis parent leaving for Walls - there are at least 5 of us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't what you're alluding to. Please explain.

I can tell you that there's growing concern in the hs parent community about inter-connected issues: inadequate teacher pay, what looks like a higher drop off rate to Walls than in the past, unimpressive hs ecs as compared to ms ecs and this year's somewhat disappointing admissions results.

In the last few years, hs parents grew accustomed to seeing ivy admits, mainly for Yale, Harvard and Princeton. It's not lost on us that Walls and JR had ivy successes this year, and not just for low SES minority applicants or recruited athletes (mostly from the JR crew team).

We wouldn't be as concerned if the head of school didn't blow off our concerns as a general rule. Some of us, particularly those with hs students with ms sibs, are hoping that he leaves. He's much more interested in the ms than the hs, which has become a problem.

Odd post. If you were actually a BASIS parent you'd know that they are going to start matching DCPS pay scale. So either you are another troll or so disengaged that seems like we should dismiss what you have to say. Also, # of BASIS kids matriculating to Walls is down, not up.

There are certainly things about BASIS I would improve. I prefer to focus on reality. But hey, you do you.

NP. OK, but where are you getting up-to-the-minute status on the # of BASIS 8th Graders heading to Walls this year? We're under the impression that more are leaving for Walls this year than last, but then we're not looking at...data.

I'll believe BASIS matching DCPS pay scale and benefits for long serving teachers if that happens. The evidence suggests that BASIS can't afford/sustain staff outlays on that level. Come on, matching DCPS starting salaries is one thing. A DC charter keeping older teachers on what DCPS pays them is another.

You might want to calling posters names when their carefully observed impressions of BASIS are different than yours.

So, to summarize, the school publicly says they are going to match DCPS and you "don't believe it"? You go on to say that facts are the same as impressions as long as the facts don't comport with your impressions? There is no point in having discussions with people like you. Why not just reply FAKE NEWS.

The more I read DCUM, the more I realize the DC liberals who predominate parrot MAGA "logic".

I'm not the poster you're responding to but am a BASIS parent (heading into the high school). I also see problems with BASIS announcing that they're planning to match DCPS salaries because DC charters don't get the same per student outlays as DCPS. Their outlays are at least 15% lower across the board.

Now that BASIS is going to BASIS starts paying young teachers like DCPS, something's gotta give eventually. To my knowledge, BASIS DC doesn't have a strong track record of fundraising to draw in private grants to top up its public funding. There's concern in the parent community that what's going to happen once teachers salaries match DCPS is that parents are going to have to make up the difference to avoid cuts to ECs and other forms of enrichment. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Some of us don't know what to believe. Yea, we've embraced MAGA logic for sure.

Human capital expenditures need to be funded with committed dollars. No school can or would sign contracts without budgetary commitments. They can't and won't sign contracts with the hope of making up a shortfalls later. That's why the fundraised dollars aren't distributed as bonuses until end of year when they know how much funding they have.

Sorry if the MAGA line hit close to home. When you express hardened, ill informed opinions based on fears not grounded in laws, finance and feels a lot like the the Orange Monster's peeps.

You don't have to come off as an arrogant jackass to make valid points. Some of us have been at BASIS long enough to doubt that positive change is coming. Granted, the budgetary commitments have been made to improve teachers pay significantly. We've heard this from admins, no orange monsters involved. But since the school has essentially been run on a shoestring budget since the get go, PPs are shrewd to predict that the result will invariably involve painful cuts elsewhere. On balance, better teachers pay may not improve the BASIS student experience overall. Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous]

NP. What belief boils down to in the matter of better teacher pay is your confidence in the management. If you’ve soured on the HoS, like we have, time to leave.