Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.

Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.

It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players

ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.

Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?

If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?

FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?

VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.

That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.

Let's be super clear about this. VA Revolution the soccer club does not own Evergreen. They have a wealthy parent/coach who started a company call Revolution Investments. He and other investors, some of them also parents, used a registered agent service firm to hide their identities.

Your travel fees ... a percentage of that is going to pay back the Investors. That $295(!) per season rec fee that's double any other program in the area ... yeah, a big chunk is going to the Investors.

So any Revolution Investem- I mean soccer club parents out there, when your club claims to be a nonprofit you might want to ask to see the books for Revolution Investments, too. Let's see how much of a family it is when you ask that question.

You've been played. Much like the customers of Independent Solar Solutions (look it up).

$295 per season of rec? You must be joking.

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Anonymous wrote:The hijacking of threads is so obnoxious but totally effective. I don't give a crap about Barca, Revolution or any soccer content in Loudon County . . just completely irrelevant for 90% of us yet living large on DCUM. Sadly, I wade through the BS to get to some authentic post relevant to my prodigy. It sucks, sorry to be whiney but it really does suck. [this message was not created by a sock puppet]

The discussion drifted quite naturally to speculation on where Oscar is rumored to move. You are free to actually add to the discussion that you are interested in yourself. It isn’t that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.

Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.

It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players

ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.

Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?

If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?

FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?

VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.

That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.

Let's be super clear about this. VA Revolution the soccer club does not own Evergreen. They have a wealthy parent/coach who started a company call Revolution Investments. He and other investors, some of them also parents, used a registered agent service firm to hide their identities.

Your travel fees ... a percentage of that is going to pay back the Investors. That $295(!) per season rec fee that's double any other program in the area ... yeah, a big chunk is going to the Investors.

So any Revolution Investem- I mean soccer club parents out there, when your club claims to be a nonprofit you might want to ask to see the books for Revolution Investments, too. Let's see how much of a family it is when you ask that question.

You've been played. Much like the customers of Independent Solar Solutions (look it up).

$295 per season of rec? You must be joking.

I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but when you form an LLC, at least in VA, you must designate a ‘Registered Agent’. Many LLCs use a Registered Agent service, since it entails handling legal and tax documents on the LLCs behalf. There is nothing sketchy or, frankly, unusual about using a service. You were able to figure out who the “wealthy parent/coach” is, so he’s not exactly hiding his identity. As I said, I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but wish them success. I’m not sure why any customer in Loudoun wouldn’t want more options, especially when the primary one is so awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.

Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.

It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players

ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.

Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?

If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?

FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?

VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.

That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.

Let's be super clear about this. VA Revolution the soccer club does not own Evergreen. They have a wealthy parent/coach who started a company call Revolution Investments. He and other investors, some of them also parents, used a registered agent service firm to hide their identities.

Your travel fees ... a percentage of that is going to pay back the Investors. That $295(!) per season rec fee that's double any other program in the area ... yeah, a big chunk is going to the Investors.

So any Revolution Investem- I mean soccer club parents out there, when your club claims to be a nonprofit you might want to ask to see the books for Revolution Investments, too. Let's see how much of a family it is when you ask that question.

You've been played. Much like the customers of Independent Solar Solutions (look it up).

$295 per season of rec? You must be joking.

I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but when you form an LLC, at least in VA, you must designate a ‘Registered Agent’. Many LLCs use a Registered Agent service, since it entails handling legal and tax documents on the LLCs behalf. There is nothing sketchy or, frankly, unusual about using a service. You were able to figure out who the “wealthy parent/coach” is, so he’s not exactly hiding his identity. As I said, I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but wish them success. I’m not sure why any customer in Loudoun wouldn’t want more options, especially when the primary one is so awful.

Yes. If you want anonymity you form the LLC in New Mexico or offshore.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.

Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.

It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players

ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.

Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?

If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?

FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?

VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.

That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.

Let's be super clear about this. VA Revolution the soccer club does not own Evergreen. They have a wealthy parent/coach who started a company call Revolution Investments. He and other investors, some of them also parents, used a registered agent service firm to hide their identities.

Your travel fees ... a percentage of that is going to pay back the Investors. That $295(!) per season rec fee that's double any other program in the area ... yeah, a big chunk is going to the Investors.

So any Revolution Investem- I mean soccer club parents out there, when your club claims to be a nonprofit you might want to ask to see the books for Revolution Investments, too. Let's see how much of a family it is when you ask that question.

You've been played. Much like the customers of Independent Solar Solutions (look it up).

$295 per season of rec? You must be joking.

I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but when you form an LLC, at least in VA, you must designate a ‘Registered Agent’. Many LLCs use a Registered Agent service, since it entails handling legal and tax documents on the LLCs behalf. There is nothing sketchy or, frankly, unusual about using a service. You were able to figure out who the “wealthy parent/coach” is, so he’s not exactly hiding his identity. As I said, I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but wish them success. I’m not sure why any customer in Loudoun wouldn’t want more options, especially when the primary one is so awful.

That’s a Loudoun employee or staffer throwing shade on Revolution because they know they’ve been phucking up hard (hello Spring 2020 and subpar ECNL performances) and they’re hoping to save face by spewing lies and fabrications. What’s new, Loudoun? Folks in Evergreen Sportsplex often laugh and joke around how the Loudoun DOC was snooping around at the height of Covid trying to report parents, players, and coaches for improperly wearing a facial covering outdoors. Can they be more pathetic?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.

Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.

It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players

ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.

Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?

If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?

FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?

VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.

That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.

Let's be super clear about this. VA Revolution the soccer club does not own Evergreen. They have a wealthy parent/coach who started a company call Revolution Investments. He and other investors, some of them also parents, used a registered agent service firm to hide their identities.

Your travel fees ... a percentage of that is going to pay back the Investors. That $295(!) per season rec fee that's double any other program in the area ... yeah, a big chunk is going to the Investors.

So any Revolution Investem- I mean soccer club parents out there, when your club claims to be a nonprofit you might want to ask to see the books for Revolution Investments, too. Let's see how much of a family it is when you ask that question.

You've been played. Much like the customers of Independent Solar Solutions (look it up).

$295 per season of rec? You must be joking.

I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but when you form an LLC, at least in VA, you must designate a ‘Registered Agent’. Many LLCs use a Registered Agent service, since it entails handling legal and tax documents on the LLCs behalf. There is nothing sketchy or, frankly, unusual about using a service. You were able to figure out who the “wealthy parent/coach” is, so he’s not exactly hiding his identity. As I said, I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but wish them success. I’m not sure why any customer in Loudoun wouldn’t want more options, especially when the primary one is so awful.

That’s a Loudoun employee or staffer throwing shade on Revolution because they know they’ve been phucking up hard (hello Spring 2020 and subpar ECNL performances) and they’re hoping to save face by spewing lies and fabrications. What’s new, Loudoun? Folks in Evergreen Sportsplex often laugh and joke around how the Loudoun DOC was snooping around at the height of Covid trying to report parents, players, and coaches for improperly wearing a facial covering outdoors. Can they be more pathetic?

yes, it's loudoun employees or staffers (isn't that the same?), not revolution, who rush to dcum to spew lies and fabrications. that totally squares with the history of this board. makes complete sense.

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Anonymous wrote:The hijacking of threads is so obnoxious but totally effective. I don't give a crap about Barca, Revolution or any soccer content in Loudon County . . just completely irrelevant for 90% of us yet living large on DCUM. Sadly, I wade through the BS to get to some authentic post relevant to my prodigy. It sucks, sorry to be whiney but it really does suck. [this message was not created by a sock puppet]

The discussion drifted quite naturally to speculation on where Oscar is rumored to move. You are free to actually add to the discussion that you are interested in yourself. It isn’t that hard.

DP. Except that’s not really what happened. One rando VRSC booster came in and made up rumors to turn this into a discussion of VRSC that was completely off-topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.

Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.

It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players

ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.

Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?

If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?

FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?

VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.

That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.

Let's be super clear about this. VA Revolution the soccer club does not own Evergreen. They have a wealthy parent/coach who started a company call Revolution Investments. He and other investors, some of them also parents, used a registered agent service firm to hide their identities.

Your travel fees ... a percentage of that is going to pay back the Investors. That $295(!) per season rec fee that's double any other program in the area ... yeah, a big chunk is going to the Investors.

So any Revolution Investem- I mean soccer club parents out there, when your club claims to be a nonprofit you might want to ask to see the books for Revolution Investments, too. Let's see how much of a family it is when you ask that question.

You've been played. Much like the customers of Independent Solar Solutions (look it up).

$295 per season of rec? You must be joking.

I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but when you form an LLC, at least in VA, you must designate a ‘Registered Agent’. Many LLCs use a Registered Agent service, since it entails handling legal and tax documents on the LLCs behalf. There is nothing sketchy or, frankly, unusual about using a service. You were able to figure out who the “wealthy parent/coach” is, so he’s not exactly hiding his identity. As I said, I’m not affiliated with VA Revolution, but wish them success. I’m not sure why any customer in Loudoun wouldn’t want more options, especially when the primary one is so awful.

That’s a Loudoun employee or staffer throwing shade on Revolution because they know they’ve been phucking up hard (hello Spring 2020 and subpar ECNL performances) and they’re hoping to save face by spewing lies and fabrications. What’s new, Loudoun? Folks in Evergreen Sportsplex often laugh and joke around how the Loudoun DOC was snooping around at the height of Covid trying to report parents, players, and coaches for improperly wearing a facial covering outdoors. Can they be more pathetic?

At least they’re not owned by private equity….looking at you FCV

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What a strange pissing match.

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Anonymous wrote:The hijacking of threads is so obnoxious but totally effective. I don't give a crap about Barca, Revolution or any soccer content in Loudon County . . just completely irrelevant for 90% of us yet living large on DCUM. Sadly, I wade through the BS to get to some authentic post relevant to my prodigy. It sucks, sorry to be whiney but it really does suck. [this message was not created by a sock puppet]

The discussion drifted quite naturally to speculation on where Oscar is rumored to move. You are free to actually add to the discussion that you are interested in yourself. It isn’t that hard.

Nothing drifts naturally towards anything in a vacuum.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it related to the rumor about oscar leaving the club?

Haven't heard that - when/where is he going?

Nobody should traffic in rumors like this. Just trying to stir the pot. If it happens, it happens. Worry about it then. Otherwise you may be worrying about something that is false.

it's not just a rumor..... from what i hear

Well what do you hear? Clearly there are rumors. At this point I can't see how it hurts to actually provide the detail of where he's going instead of just the rumor that he's leaving.

ED resigns abruptly for greener pastures, his past experiences and education tells you he drawn to high profile roles. Recently, at a big local club, there's been and continues to be a complete overhaul of staff and personnel. I'd be surprised if the ED spent a second thinking about Arlington soccer Asso. who? after he accepted his new role. Clearly he'd want to hit the ground running and make a statement. To do so it'd be wise to surround yourself with very qualified and highly regarded talent. Thats a very easy conversation and decision for Oscar to have. Especially after Arlington made the boys academy second fiddle to the girls side by joining ecnl first to help the girls side get in and not mls next. Also, with the younger boys teams not as strong as before, and the fact that it would be very difficult for him to get beyond his role as academy director, limiting his income for the foreseeable future, made his decision a no decision. Details where probably worked out before the start of the fall season.

I do not live and breathe kid's soccer. What are you talking about?

Any word as to where Brick is going? That post seems to suggest Oscar may follow - unless I’m misunderstanding.

Any updates?