racist remarks at Sherwood vs Einstein game

[Anonymous]

Too many of you are clearly and unacceptably uniformed about issues relating to race and class; consequently you don't realize or appreciate that these incidents could have happened at any school in our community, public or private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many of you are clearly and unacceptably uniformed about issues relating to race and class; consequently you don't realize or appreciate that these incidents could have happened at any school in our community, public or private.

They COULD. The issue is that the possibility (could) rather than the actual incidence (do) is what certain parents defensively focus on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a poc and live in Olney. We belong to the Sherwood cluster with kids in an Elementary school. I’m paying attention to the story very carefully. I don’t think Olney is a racist town. It is small town, homey, and yes, you see the same people everywhere from the OBGC fields to the football games and yes, even the breweries. I can only speak for what I observe at the elementary school. Many have (had) black lives matters or kindness lives here signs on their lawns, there’s a lot of talk about equity and inclusiveness including adopting a title 1 sister school. So I think people want to be in a right spot. But in practice what I observe is these same well-meaning and well-intentioned people have a very homogenous looking social groups. They’re all white or you might see one or two people of color mixed in but not many. As I said, I don’t think it’s racism but I can’t put my finger on what the disconnect is. I’m also not saying that well-intentioned people can’t be racists, so don’t take it that way, just trying to work out my observations about my town and what I’m hearing is happening at a high school level into perspective.

We are an Einstein family and there are lots of social groups that are basically white only here too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a poc and live in Olney. We belong to the Sherwood cluster with kids in an Elementary school. I’m paying attention to the story very carefully. I don’t think Olney is a racist town. It is small town, homey, and yes, you see the same people everywhere from the OBGC fields to the football games and yes, even the breweries. I can only speak for what I observe at the elementary school. Many have (had) black lives matters or kindness lives here signs on their lawns, there’s a lot of talk about equity and inclusiveness including adopting a title 1 sister school. So I think people want to be in a right spot. But in practice what I observe is these same well-meaning and well-intentioned people have a very homogenous looking social groups. They’re all white or you might see one or two people of color mixed in but not many. As I said, I don’t think it’s racism but I can’t put my finger on what the disconnect is. I’m also not saying that well-intentioned people can’t be racists, so don’t take it that way, just trying to work out my observations about my town and what I’m hearing is happening at a high school level into perspective.

We are an Einstein family and there are lots of social groups that are basically white only here too.

What do you think the disconnect? this might be for a different thread but I see how this can translate to the kids and I’m sure this is been happening for years and is what we’re seeing at Sherwood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a poc and live in Olney. We belong to the Sherwood cluster with kids in an Elementary school. I’m paying attention to the story very carefully. I don’t think Olney is a racist town. It is small town, homey, and yes, you see the same people everywhere from the OBGC fields to the football games and yes, even the breweries. I can only speak for what I observe at the elementary school. Many have (had) black lives matters or kindness lives here signs on their lawns, there’s a lot of talk about equity and inclusiveness including adopting a title 1 sister school. So I think people want to be in a right spot. But in practice what I observe is these same well-meaning and well-intentioned people have a very homogenous looking social groups. They’re all white or you might see one or two people of color mixed in but not many. As I said, I don’t think it’s racism but I can’t put my finger on what the disconnect is. I’m also not saying that well-intentioned people can’t be racists, so don’t take it that way, just trying to work out my observations about my town and what I’m hearing is happening at a high school level into perspective.

We are an Einstein family and there are lots of social groups that are basically white only here too.

What do you think the disconnect? this might be for a different thread but I see how this can translate to the kids and I’m sure this is been happening for years and is what we’re seeing at Sherwood.

It's called self segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many of you are clearly and unacceptably uniformed about issues relating to race and class; consequently you don't realize or appreciate that these incidents could have happened at any school in our community, public or private.

of course they can, but this happened at Sherwood, and the adults there did nothing about it. No one was disciplined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a poc and live in Olney. We belong to the Sherwood cluster with kids in an Elementary school. I’m paying attention to the story very carefully. I don’t think Olney is a racist town. It is small town, homey, and yes, you see the same people everywhere from the OBGC fields to the football games and yes, even the breweries. I can only speak for what I observe at the elementary school. Many have (had) black lives matters or kindness lives here signs on their lawns, there’s a lot of talk about equity and inclusiveness including adopting a title 1 sister school. So I think people want to be in a right spot. But in practice what I observe is these same well-meaning and well-intentioned people have a very homogenous looking social groups. They’re all white or you might see one or two people of color mixed in but not many. As I said, I don’t think it’s racism but I can’t put my finger on what the disconnect is. I’m also not saying that well-intentioned people can’t be racists, so don’t take it that way, just trying to work out my observations about my town and what I’m hearing is happening at a high school level into perspective.

We are an Einstein family and there are lots of social groups that are basically white only here too.

What do you think the disconnect? this might be for a different thread but I see how this can translate to the kids and I’m sure this is been happening for years and is what we’re seeing at Sherwood.

It's called self segregation.

This. Definitely self-segregation.

I live in Silver Spring neighborhood south of Olney and my kids are in a VERY diverse cluster. Our middle school has a separate parent group for AA parents, and a separate group for Latino parents. They meet separately and on separate days. The parents meet up with other parents who are in the same ‘group’ versus one cohesive PTA for all parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus H.

A few privileged kids (who, btw, we don't the race of the offenders), act like a-holes, and people here want the full season cancelled and staff fired.

You guys are crazy

Three incidents over a week or so from the same school directed at Einstein

This isn’t true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Sherwood demographics are irrelevant. Sherwood students made racist remarks toward Asian Einstein students. Sherwood coaches were told and did nothing at the time until forced to after the fact.

The demographics of the students allegedly making racist remarks is relevant. Most of the students in the Sherwood student section are a minority. And for the record, there wasn’t a single video showing anyone saying anything racists. Don’t you think that is shocking seeing how many people have phones with a camera these days?

The Sherwood coaches were supposed to stop the game and investigate? How do you know they didn’t act until forced to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a poc and live in Olney. We belong to the Sherwood cluster with kids in an Elementary school. I’m paying attention to the story very carefully. I don’t think Olney is a racist town. It is small town, homey, and yes, you see the same people everywhere from the OBGC fields to the football games and yes, even the breweries. I can only speak for what I observe at the elementary school. Many have (had) black lives matters or kindness lives here signs on their lawns, there’s a lot of talk about equity and inclusiveness including adopting a title 1 sister school. So I think people want to be in a right spot. But in practice what I observe is these same well-meaning and well-intentioned people have a very homogenous looking social groups. They’re all white or you might see one or two people of color mixed in but not many. As I said, I don’t think it’s racism but I can’t put my finger on what the disconnect is. I’m also not saying that well-intentioned people can’t be racists, so don’t take it that way, just trying to work out my observations about my town and what I’m hearing is happening at a high school level into perspective.

We are an Einstein family and there are lots of social groups that are basically white only here too.

What do you think the disconnect? this might be for a different thread but I see how this can translate to the kids and I’m sure this is been happening for years and is what we’re seeing at Sherwood.

It's called self segregation.

This, its always been this way in this county. We are at a low income school and its very much segregated with the parents - you have the white/asian PTSA, the Hispanic Parent group and the NAACP Parent group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The consortium schools are chosen. If you are zoned for Sherwood and list Sherwood as your first choice, you would go to Sherwood. So there is no risk of any Sherwoord-zoned kids being bussed to the bad schools.
The issue was that kids from the bad schools could choose Sherwood as their first choice, and if space is available, they would be able to attend.

And to the parent who feels.like this idea would ruin their weekly shopping get togethers at Harris Teeter, or negatively impact the craft beer parties at the football games, you disgust me.

?

That’s not what I said.

Everyone is saying racism prompted Sherwood to opt out of the NEC. I merely suggested distance and a commitment to preserving a hometown feel were likely the driving force.

If you actually lived out here, you would realize it is diverse. You would also realize that nobody is interested in schlepping through traffic.

I think another poster nailed it by calling out the ridiculous notion that racist/sexist comments are limited to Sherwood. This is happening everywhere, including your diverse utopian schools (where other posters have pointed out parents segregate themselves and their kids).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The consortium schools are chosen. If you are zoned for Sherwood and list Sherwood as your first choice, you would go to Sherwood. So there is no risk of any Sherwoord-zoned kids being bussed to the bad schools.
The issue was that kids from the bad schools could choose Sherwood as their first choice, and if space is available, they would be able to attend.

And to the parent who feels.like this idea would ruin their weekly shopping get togethers at Harris Teeter, or negatively impact the craft beer parties at the football games, you disgust me.

?

That’s not what I said.

Everyone is saying racism prompted Sherwood to opt out of the NEC. I merely suggested distance and a commitment to preserving a hometown feel were likely the driving force.

If you actually lived out here, you would realize it is diverse. You would also realize that nobody is interested in schlepping through traffic.

I think another poster nailed it by calling out the ridiculous notion that racist/sexist comments are limited to Sherwood. This is happening everywhere, including your diverse utopian schools (where other posters have pointed out parents segregate themselves and their kids).

I’m a PP whose kids play OBGC soccer. My DS’ team has kids of all backgrounds - Asian, Latino, AA, and White. It is actually quite diverse and the parents are all pretty friendly. I think sports is actually one of the few realms where you do get integration with regards to race.

My nephew lives in Aspen Hill and has played soccer for years. It’s interesting because there are some soccer leagues that are pretty much just for Latino kids and others that seem to attract mostly White kids.

Anyway, the ‘diverse’ schools are absolutely 100% not some kind of utopia. I went to a college that prided itself on ‘diversity’ and it was actually even MORE segregated that my mostly White grad school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I stated in the other thread that if they really had a zero tolerance policy for this kind of thing, the coaches should've have stopped the game. Give a warning to the audience, and if it doesn't stop, then the game is forfeit by the offending side.

That's zero tolerance. What actually happened was high tolerance of racism against Asian American students by the adults there. If this happened to black players, I'm pretty sure there would've been a much bigger stink DURING the game.

Double standard.

As an Asian American I say people need to lighten up and not take this stuff so seriously! My friends and I have been called derogatory names so many times as kids...we either got in a fight over it or moved on. Success is the best revenge. No need to always play victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stated in the other thread that if they really had a zero tolerance policy for this kind of thing, the coaches should've have stopped the game. Give a warning to the audience, and if it doesn't stop, then the game is forfeit by the offending side.

That's zero tolerance. What actually happened was high tolerance of racism against Asian American students by the adults there. If this happened to black players, I'm pretty sure there would've been a much bigger stink DURING the game.

Double standard.

As an Asian American I say people need to lighten up and not take this stuff so seriously! My friends and I have been called derogatory names so many times as kids...we either got in a fight over it or moved on. Success is the best revenge. No need to always play victim.

Love your style and attitude but its still not acceptable. Those same parents who allow their kids to behave that way or are behaving that way would not tolerate their kids being subjected to the abuse you received or your kids receive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stated in the other thread that if they really had a zero tolerance policy for this kind of thing, the coaches should've have stopped the game. Give a warning to the audience, and if it doesn't stop, then the game is forfeit by the offending side.

That's zero tolerance. What actually happened was high tolerance of racism against Asian American students by the adults there. If this happened to black players, I'm pretty sure there would've been a much bigger stink DURING the game.

Double standard.

As an Asian American I say people need to lighten up and not take this stuff so seriously! My friends and I have been called derogatory names so many times as kids...we either got in a fight over it or moved on. Success is the best revenge. No need to always play victim.

I'm so sorry, PP. That shouldn't have happened. Fortunately there's been a culture shift.

When I was in middle school and boys slapped girls' rear ends, the response was "lighten up" to that too.