MCPS vs PGCPS

[Anonymous]

https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/maryland/glenarden-woods-elementary-school-takes-top-spot-in-mcap-assessment-for-performance/65-a159c358-c3ef-4939-99e8-b64de600ae2f I know many posters are often dismissive of MCAP scores, but they do provide a baseline for student achievement across the state. 90% of Glenarden’s students are children of color and 40% are economically disadvantaged. PGCPS has its faults, but they do many things differently from MCPS and those choices are starting noticeably to pay off. Rather than push “honors for all” in the name of equity, they offer rigorous programs for their gifted students. I was curious so I looked up the PGCPS student code of conduct and compared it to MCPS. There seemed to be much higher expectations for student conduct in PGCPS. For example, if an MCPS student is caught with alcohol or drugs, they will receive a “ restorative practice,” if it is their first offense. In PGCPS, students receive a short term suspension and mandatory counseling from the alternative to drugs and alcohol program. Is there any push in MCPS to adopt some of the policies that are used in PGCPS?

[Anonymous]

No. MCPS is too concerned about “closing the gap” to be concerned with accountability. The gap will never be closed if students know there are not consequences for fighting, missed assignments, skipping classes and blaming all misbehavior on racial inequity. As a current MCPS teacher (who is also a woman and minority), I’ve seen first hand the disservice MCPS has shown ALL students by refusing to remediate the foundational skill gap present for so many of our students (only offering honors english for 9th and 10th grade students is just one example) combined with the lottery system for magnet school selection (watering down the accelerated / advanced course material). Sad to say but MCPS is no longer the gold standard it once was in the past.

[Anonymous]

If you compare the PGCPS and MCPS overall school report card data …it’s pretty similar. I think MCPS earned more points but PGCPS hit more improvement metrics. It is crazy to think about because MCPS has a bigger budget and PGCPS has way more title 1 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you compare the PGCPS and MCPS overall school report card data …it’s pretty similar. I think MCPS earned more points but PGCPS hit more improvement metrics. It is crazy to think about because MCPS has a bigger budget and PGCPS has way more title 1 schools.

No, they are not

[Anonymous]

Howard beats them both. Out of the three, MCPS is the only one on the decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/maryland/glenarden-woods-elementary-school-takes-top-spot-in-mcap-assessment-for-performance/65-a159c358-c3ef-4939-99e8-b64de600ae2f I know many posters are often dismissive of MCAP scores, but they do provide a baseline for student achievement across the state. 90% of Glenarden’s students are children of color and 40% are economically disadvantaged. PGCPS has its faults, but they do many things differently from MCPS and those choices are starting noticeably to pay off. Rather than push “honors for all” in the name of equity, they offer rigorous programs for their gifted students. I was curious so I looked up the PGCPS student code of conduct and compared it to MCPS. There seemed to be much higher expectations for student conduct in PGCPS. For example, if an MCPS student is caught with alcohol or drugs, they will receive a “ restorative practice,” if it is their first offense. In PGCPS, students receive a short term suspension and mandatory counseling from the alternative to drugs and alcohol program. Is there any push in MCPS to adopt some of the policies that are used in PGCPS?

Balderdash.
This is one elementary school, and honors for all has nothing to do with elementary school anyway.
MoCo has far far higher gifted performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. MCPS is too concerned about “closing the gap” to be concerned with accountability. The gap will never be closed if students know there are not consequences for fighting, missed assignments, skipping classes and blaming all misbehavior on racial inequity. As a current MCPS teacher (who is also a woman and minority), I’ve seen first hand the disservice MCPS has shown ALL students by refusing to remediate the foundational skill gap present for so many of our students (only offering honors english for 9th and 10th grade students is just one example) combined with the lottery system for magnet school selection (watering down the accelerated / advanced course material). Sad to say but MCPS is no longer the gold standard it once was in the past.

And don't even get me started on the dumb teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. MCPS is too concerned about “closing the gap” to be concerned with accountability. The gap will never be closed if students know there are not consequences for fighting, missed assignments, skipping classes and blaming all misbehavior on racial inequity. As a current MCPS teacher (who is also a woman and minority), I’ve seen first hand the disservice MCPS has shown ALL students by refusing to remediate the foundational skill gap present for so many of our students (only offering honors english for 9th and 10th grade students is just one example) combined with the lottery system for magnet school selection (watering down the accelerated / advanced course material). Sad to say but MCPS is no longer the gold standard it once was in the past.

And don't even get me started on the dumb teachers.

Please. Tell us how the people teaching your children are dumb. That would be more a reflection on you rather than the teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/maryland/glenarden-woods-elementary-school-takes-top-spot-in-mcap-assessment-for-performance/65-a159c358-c3ef-4939-99e8-b64de600ae2f I know many posters are often dismissive of MCAP scores, but they do provide a baseline for student achievement across the state. 90% of Glenarden’s students are children of color and 40% are economically disadvantaged. PGCPS has its faults, but they do many things differently from MCPS and those choices are starting noticeably to pay off. Rather than push “honors for all” in the name of equity, they offer rigorous programs for their gifted students. I was curious so I looked up the PGCPS student code of conduct and compared it to MCPS. There seemed to be much higher expectations for student conduct in PGCPS. For example, if an MCPS student is caught with alcohol or drugs, they will receive a “ restorative practice,” if it is their first offense. In PGCPS, students receive a short term suspension and mandatory counseling from the alternative to drugs and alcohol program. Is there any push in MCPS to adopt some of the policies that are used in PGCPS?

Balderdash.
This is one elementary school, and honors for all has nothing to do with elementary school anyway.
MoCo has far far higher gifted performance.

“Far far higher” based on what?Your opinion? Literally Glenarden out scored EVERY school in the state…including every MoCo school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Howard beats them both. Out of the three, MCPS is the only one on the decline.

HoCo has less FARMS and ESL students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. MCPS is too concerned about “closing the gap” to be concerned with accountability. The gap will never be closed if students know there are not consequences for fighting, missed assignments, skipping classes and blaming all misbehavior on racial inequity. As a current MCPS teacher (who is also a woman and minority), I’ve seen first hand the disservice MCPS has shown ALL students by refusing to remediate the foundational skill gap present for so many of our students (only offering honors english for 9th and 10th grade students is just one example) combined with the lottery system for magnet school selection (watering down the accelerated / advanced course material). Sad to say but MCPS is no longer the gold standard it once was in the past.

And don't even get me started on the dumb teachers.

Please. Tell us how the people teaching your children are dumb. That would be more a reflection on you rather than the teachers.

Not the PP however as my children went through MCPS the teacher quality went down for sure. Change of career teachers are the worst. We had a lawyer for English, sales guy for history and AP Psychology ugh sports broh.... We also had teachers that stayed in the sytem too long.

[Anonymous]

We're in MCPS but have lots of friends in PGCPS. There doesn't seem to be much difference at all in terms of anything anyone here has mentioned; we're all generally happy with our schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. MCPS is too concerned about “closing the gap” to be concerned with accountability. The gap will never be closed if students know there are not consequences for fighting, missed assignments, skipping classes and blaming all misbehavior on racial inequity. As a current MCPS teacher (who is also a woman and minority), I’ve seen first hand the disservice MCPS has shown ALL students by refusing to remediate the foundational skill gap present for so many of our students (only offering honors english for 9th and 10th grade students is just one example) combined with the lottery system for magnet school selection (watering down the accelerated / advanced course material). Sad to say but MCPS is no longer the gold standard it once was in the past.

And don't even get me started on the dumb teachers.

Please. Tell us how the people teaching your children are dumb. That would be more a reflection on you rather than the teachers.

Not the PP however as my children went through MCPS the teacher quality went down for sure. Change of career teachers are the worst. We had a lawyer for English, sales guy for history and AP Psychology ugh sports broh.... We also had teachers that stayed in the sytem too long.

Ew you sound gross. Why didn't you homeschool then

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Howard beats them both. Out of the three, MCPS is the only one on the decline.

You should move to Howard County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. MCPS is too concerned about “closing the gap” to be concerned with accountability. The gap will never be closed if students know there are not consequences for fighting, missed assignments, skipping classes and blaming all misbehavior on racial inequity. As a current MCPS teacher (who is also a woman and minority), I’ve seen first hand the disservice MCPS has shown ALL students by refusing to remediate the foundational skill gap present for so many of our students (only offering honors english for 9th and 10th grade students is just one example) combined with the lottery system for magnet school selection (watering down the accelerated / advanced course material). Sad to say but MCPS is no longer the gold standard it once was in the past.

And don't even get me started on the dumb teachers.

I have taught in PGCPS and MCPS. PGCPS teachers always say, "Thank God we don't have those awful MCPS parents."