Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.

Heroes of humanity? They’re crazy leftist nuts who went into a war zone not because they care about starving Palestinians, but because they hate the West, capitalism and Jews, too. Some of us, the smarter ones, can see through them and their organization.

Aid workers are protected in war zones by international law.

And WCK hates Israel so much they provided 200,000 means after Oct 7.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/since-october-7-world-central-kitchen-has-served-millions-of-meals-in-israel-and-gaza/

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

You know their founder is radically left.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.

Heroes of humanity? They’re crazy leftist nuts who went into a war zone not because they care about starving Palestinians, but because they hate the West, capitalism and Jews, too. Some of us, the smarter ones, can see through them and their organization.

They gave food to refugees. The IDF killed deliberately killed them. Your moral compass is seriously screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

This is pretty much my stance as well. I remain staunchly pro-Israel. Hamas is a terrorist group, period. I think Hamas needs to be eliminated and someone else put in charge of Gaza. But that said I think Israel needs to change its ways. Netanyahu needs to go. His policies suck. And, there are clearly too many rogue IDF commanders playing fast and loose, too much indiscriminate and illegitimate targeting of innocents and they need to be held accountable. Also, this is NOT Biden's war, never has been, no matter how much the shrieking pro-Hamas ninnies on this thread keep shouting it. I think the US needs to continue to stand by Israel but needs to start leaning hard on Netanyahu and the IDF and start demanding changes and accountability, including withholding weaponry, if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.

Heroes of humanity? They’re crazy leftist nuts who went into a war zone not because they care about starving Palestinians, but because they hate the West, capitalism and Jews, too. Some of us, the smarter ones, can see through them and their organization.

They gave food to refugees. The IDF killed deliberately killed them. Your moral compass is seriously screwed.

+1000. Jose Andres has been helping those in need all around the globe. And you should watch some of his interviews, he is a proud Capitalist who has no hate of the West. This is about helping, not alignment to terrorists. Disgusting and dishonest that anyone would suggest otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

This is pretty much my stance as well. I remain staunchly pro-Israel. Hamas is a terrorist group, period. I think Hamas needs to be eliminated and someone else put in charge of Gaza. But that said I think Israel needs to change its ways. Netanyahu needs to go. His policies suck. And, there are clearly too many rogue IDF commanders playing fast and loose, too much indiscriminate and illegitimate targeting of innocents and they need to be held accountable. Also, this is NOT Biden's war, never has been, no matter how much the shrieking pro-Hamas ninnies on this thread keep shouting it. I think the US needs to continue to stand by Israel but needs to start leaning hard on Netanyahu and the IDF and start demanding changes and accountability, including withholding weaponry, if needed.

I think that is the stance of most people tbh, aside from the pro-Hamas posters on here. There are probably just a couple of them but they are very vocal.

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Can we just drop the spin that anyone is "pro Hamas", at least to the extent that they are supporters of terrorism. It's a cheap attempt to shut down debate.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just drop the spin that anyone is "pro Hamas", at least to the extent that they are supporters of terrorism. It's a cheap attempt to shut down debate.

Debate needs to be shut down with terrorists. And there are absolutely pro-Hamas posters here spouting blood libel antisemitic propaganda, using Zionist as a slur, saying Jews need to go back to Russia...In a room of pro-Israel adults we can criticize Israel all day long if you want.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.

Heroes of humanity? They’re crazy leftist nuts who went into a war zone not because they care about starving Palestinians, but because they hate the West, capitalism and Jews, too. Some of us, the smarter ones, can see through them and their organization.

They gave food to refugees. The IDF killed deliberately killed them. Your moral compass is seriously screwed.

+1000. Jose Andres has been helping those in need all around the globe. And you should watch some of his interviews, he is a proud Capitalist who has no hate of the West. This is about helping, not alignment to terrorists. Disgusting and dishonest that anyone would suggest otherwise.

+1000. WCK is dedicated to feeding hungry people. It appears these aid workers were deliberately hunted down and killed. There were three targeted precision airstrikes over more than a mile. The question now is, "Why?" What is the motivation behind these murders? The answer appears to be to prevent aid from reaching starving Palestinians. It is further proof that the starvation of Palestinians is intentional. We are watching a purposeful genocide

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Sixty percent of the aid entering Gaza from NGOs came from WCK. WCK had already provided 42 million meals to people in Gaza and was set to provide millions more. Now that lifeblood of nutrients has been cut off. Israel not only murdered seven beautiful souls. It is actively and deliberately murdering Palestinians by starving them to death. That appears to be the point. The goal of Zionism from the beginning was to "get rid" of the Palestinians and steal their land. That's exactly what is happening here.

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"Through lies and targeted assassinations, Israel has effectively shut down the three major aid organizations keeping Palestinians alive in Rafah: UNRWA, ANERA, & World Central Kitchen" (Susan Abulhawa).

The obstacles to Gazan survival have been removed. How convenient. Let the planning for those "very valuable waterfront properties" begin.

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Anonymous wrote:If you starve children, leave hundreds of thousands of women homeless, kill foreign aid workers, and generally try to portray yourself as a victim while engaging in a genocidal killing spree, the world will hate you and deservedly so. At this point, Israel is irredeemable. The Jews won’t be able to look to the next generations to fund their war machine and land grabs like the aging, clueless boomers.

One ISIS hit here in the USA (or even little knife and acid attacks) and everyone denouncing Israel will support them;

No, people will rightly say that Israel's extreme tactics during this war added fuel to the fire. Israelis have blindly encouraged a brutal and short-sighted strategy with over ten thousand babies and children in their graves. Israelis have selfishly left their own children and grandchildren to suffer from the rise of Muslim extremism that will undoubtedly grow as a result of how Israel has decided to retaliate after 10/7. Israel shamefully squandered the sympathy of the world with its near-genocide of the people of Gaza.

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Anonymous wrote:If you starve children, leave hundreds of thousands of women homeless, kill foreign aid workers, and generally try to portray yourself as a victim while engaging in a genocidal killing spree, the world will hate you and deservedly so. At this point, Israel is irredeemable. The Jews won’t be able to look to the next generations to fund their war machine and land grabs like the aging, clueless boomers.

One ISIS hit here in the USA (or even little knife and acid attacks) and everyone denouncing Israel will support them;

We had 9/11. Even in the bloodiest battles in Iraq and Afghanistan, we never deliberately starved civilians to death.

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Anonymous wrote:Sixty percent of the aid entering Gaza from NGOs came from WCK. WCK had already provided 42 million meals to people in Gaza and was set to provide millions more. Now that lifeblood of nutrients has been cut off. Israel not only murdered seven beautiful souls. It is actively and deliberately murdering Palestinians by starving them to death. That appears to be the point. The goal of Zionism from the beginning was to "get rid" of the Palestinians and steal their land. That's exactly what is happening here.

Hello! Just one of the globalists’ goal is depopulation.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?

You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.

Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home

Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.

Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.

It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...

Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.

It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.

It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war

Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.

I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.

Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.

Heroes of humanity? They’re crazy leftist nuts who went into a war zone not because they care about starving Palestinians, but because they hate the West, capitalism and Jews, too. Some of us, the smarter ones, can see through them and their organization.

lol yes giving food to Palestinians is an act of hatred toward Jews. Uh-huh. Why feed them when you can just let them starve and have Israel move in and claim the land, right?