Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.
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Anonymous wrote:Biden didn't do this. Bibi and his ilk did. Is there a command and control issue in the IDF? This attack was intentional, there is absolutely no question about that, and it isn't the first time. Heck, WCK had just the day or so before raised concerns about snipers firing on their vehicles. It's also an unambiguous war crime, also not the first time. Which raises the question of whether this is IDF policy or the actions of a rogue commander? Either way something is very rotten in Danyat.


Biden didn’t stop this, is the problem.

Biden didn’t wake up this morning, read the news, and say, the U.S will stop supporting Bibi in the UN and the ICJ. He read about the same war crime you did, and the deliberate killing of a U.S. citizen, and he did…nothing at all.


Biden couldn't do that, at the time, and he's been far more willing to criticize Israel than any administration since Bush 1.

He was given the world's biggest kaka sandwich at the world's worst time and has somehow miraculously preventing it from going global. That is a testament in and of itself.

That being said, the World Central Kitchen attack changes a lot.


Biden does not care about World Central Kitchen strike. There is a lot of talk that the US supplied targeting information for the Israelis in addition to supplying all the munitions. This happens every day in Gaza, Biden closely coordinates with Israel and has been coordinating from the beginning. There is no space between Biden and Israel even when Israel kills US citizens. Remember Israel is holding a bunch of US citizens and Biden only cares about Israel hostages. The same hostages the IDF and Israel government could care less about.

Word is Biden will arrest José Andrés and charge him with aiding hamas sometime this week.


You. Are. Deranged.

Biden is furious over the WCK strike. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-outraged-killing-world-central-kitchen-workers-gaza-rcna146135

You are completely full of BS, living in some bizarro world. Please do everyone here a favor and just STOP posting your GARBAGE TAKES because you clearly have absolutely NO CLUE what is going on and are just making things up.


Just stop with your bullsh#t. It is well documented that the US is a full participant in this slaughter and Biden is cheering on the IDF. Over 200 aid workers targeted and kill plus 700 wounded so far. This is Biden’s war and genocide. Now US citizens are killed and Biden says Israel should try to kill less civilians? You are another Zionist propagandist.


Biden has a well documented track record of being a warmonger, as does his Secretary of State. His presidency played out exactly as I expected. You’d have to be really naive or desperate to expect anything from Biden.


That's one of the worst hot takes you've had. What Biden and Blinken have done to prevent this from spiralling into a regional war has been miraculous.

How could this be worse? Israelis have killed 32K Gazans, nearly half of them children, hundreds of thousands are starving, the infrastructure of Gaza has been destroyed, settlers are moving in droves to the West Bank, Israel are Iran are at the brink an escalated conflict, thousands of Israelis are protesting against Netanyahu, etc. Half the world thinks that the US is complicit in a possible genocide. Oh, and Israel has not managed to get back all of its hostages, while creating a new generation of Hamas. What an amazing strategy Israel has pursued possibly the worst strategy ever following the heartbreak of 10/7.


First, the figure you cited (32K) comes from a designated terrorist organization, Hamas. Why would anyone believe that figure is credible, coming from the terrorists themselves? I don’t believe the death toll is anywhere near that high.

Second: Hamas terrorists are certainly included in whatever the real death toll number is. Have 32K Hamas terrorists died? 20K? Moreover, who cares about dead terrorists? Again, Hamas is a designated terrorist organization. All of Hamas should disappear, just as ISIS should.

Finally: are the civilian casualties on both sides horrific? Yes, of course! But Hamas is to blame here. 100%. The best thing would be for the people to rise up AGAINST Hamas.

But the Chain Bridge Road people are supporting Hamas, directly or indirectly.

They have the right to express themselves, of course - and I support their right to expression- but the second they block traffic or litter with faux blood, they should be sent directly to jail and explain their lawlessness to a federal judge.


No Israel is totally to blame. Israel is a terrorist state the likes of which have not been seen since Nazi Germany. Israel must be occupied by the UN, stripped of local government and punished. War criminals must pay for their crimes,


This is pro-Hamas fan fiction.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


There is no war. There is only one wealthy, barbaric country, protected by a large, super wealthy, powerful county starving and slaughtering the weak and defenseless. What’s happening is so barbaric and sociopathic that even a tree stump would cringe in horror.

Everyone in the world recognizes evil when they see evil.


Hamas is evil, ita.


Billions of people see you for exactly who you are. The mask has fallen as it did for SA. The unraveling of Israel is inevitable, and it is a real shame.


Your mask has fallen and I will be d**ned if I ever stand with the far left again.
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The White House is urging Congress to approve an $18 billion sale of F-15 fighter jets to Israel this week, even as the Biden administration has ramped up criticism of Israeli airstrikes.

Biden's State Department delivered notices to two Congressional committees asking them to begin the review process for the deal. In addition to selling more than 50 planes, the deal would also include munitions and training services, according to the New York Times.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-pressing-congress-approve-f15-sale-israel-despite-criticism-airstrike-accident

lol old Joe Biden crying some crocodile tears. Target and kill American aid workers and Biden will make sure you get more weapons to do it again. All of Israel is laughing at the stupid Americans. Israel gets more weapons and shuts down all aid operations in Gaza. How do you like your “floating aid dock” now Biden? Wait till the IDF blows it up…what are you going to do about it?
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


Pro-Israel doesn’t mean pro-war. Why do you think Israelis are protesting in the street right now? They’re pro-Hamas?
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/01/middleeast/israel-protests-netanyahu-intl/index.html

All of these people are pro-Hamas now?

You insult the people in Israel who don’t want children starved in their names, don’t want humanitarians killed, and remember that after October 7th, World Central Kitchen made meals for survivors and IDPs. You should be ashamed of yourself by equating “pro-Israel” with “pro war crime”.

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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


Pro-Israel doesn’t mean pro-war. Why do you think Israelis are protesting in the street right now? They’re pro-Hamas?


Pro-Isreal means stealing land at a slower, but still inexorable, pace with fewer killings. A kinder, more humane, ethnic cleansing
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


Pro-Israel doesn’t mean pro-war. Why do you think Israelis are protesting in the street right now? They’re pro-Hamas?


According to those people, not just pro-Hamas but actual Hamas. Heck, they've even said the UN Secretary General and Hannah Arendt's ghost are Hamas.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


Pro-Israel doesn’t mean pro-war. Why do you think Israelis are protesting in the street right now? They’re pro-Hamas?


No, they are pro-Israel, which was exactly my point...You on the other hand seem pro-Hamas. It's impossible having a dialogue with the pro-Hamas side about Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.


Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.


Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.


STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.


Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.


pretty much agree with you.

while i’m not sure about WCK knowing where the hostages are, their social media posts about all the food they are providing in gaza etc and them moving around gaza certainly belies the UN bellyaching that Israel is impeding aid to civilians. the whole thing stinks.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.


Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.


STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.


You aren't replying to a real person. It's someone trying to get people upset - more upset.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.


Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.


STFU. It wasn't indavertent and WCK is not Hamas. Those 7 people that were hunted down and executed for the crime of trying to prevent a famine are heroes of humanity and your craven defamation of them is despicable.


Heroes of humanity? They’re crazy leftist nuts who went into a war zone not because they care about starving Palestinians, but because they hate the West, capitalism and Jews, too. Some of us, the smarter ones, can see through them and their organization.
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Anonymous wrote:Per ABC evening news today, Biden shipped 2000 lb bombs few days ago to Israel. That’s it! Biden seems to think he will get more Jewish votes by continuing to supply weapons to Israel then the number of Muslim votes he will lose. Well, I am neither Jewish nor Muslim and I am fed up with Biden’s policy on Israel. Come November, I will not vote for him. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. The only way I can register my opposition to Biden’s tone deaf policy of facilitating innocent killing of Palestinians is by not voting for him.

Which Democrat would you support?


You don't seem to understand. Voters don't need to pick another horse. They can stay home and not vote. That's my plan. If that helps Trump get elected, so be it.

So you’d rather see Gaza obliterated and Jared building his fancy homes there? Some Einstein-level thinking there.


Ethically, I can not vote for a president who is aiding a genocide, so I'll stay home


Ok, stay home and watch Trump win. Watch Trump and his son in law Jared take control and let the IDF wipe Gaza.
Do you care about the people in Gaza at all?
If you cared one bit about Gaza, you wouldn’t let Jared take control. You only care about yourself.
The goal isn’t to vote for the perfect leader. They are both bad and flawed. The goal is to pick the less evil.



Biden, Trump and even Kennedy are reflexively pro-Israel. Sitting out this election/writing someone in is really your only option for protesting what Israel is doing. Now one might want to ask why the only people you can vote for are pro-Israel.


It's not accomplishing anything though. You're not going to find a pro-Hamas POTUS next time around because you sat this one out. You're basically just hurting your own interests at home since Trump and Biden are so different on US issues...


Trying to equating opposing man made famine to being pro hamas is getting old fast.


It might be hard for you to grasp, but these are the two parties in this war. You're pro-Israel or pro-Hamas. Nobody likes starving civilians.


It may be hard for you to grasp, but total war to eliminate terrorists is a step too far for most people. Civilized countries do not create famines as a means of war


Pro-Hamas or pro-Israel are still the choices. Hamas is absolutely contributing to famine in Gaza and encouraging it.


I am nuanced pro-Israel. Hamas is primarily to blame - and they could have stopped it from happening in the first place, they could end it today, and they could have mitigated the harm.

But I think especially with the WCK killing, it's become clear that Israel cannot in good conscience continue to prosecute this way, they way they are. Israel is right to defend itself, and to eliminate Hamas, but at some point too many other people are dying for this cause. I think many people - even those who are pro-Israel - would say that point was a long time ago. For me, the WCK deaths have really driven home that this just doesn't make sense.

This has increasingly felt like Netanyahu's desperate gambit to hold onto power. Instead, it seems like in addition to killing too many people, it's also destroying Israel. It feels like this has crossed a line - both a moral line, and a public opinion/political line - that is going to be very hard to come back from.


Well, I think that a non-profit organization cannot in good conscience send its workers into an active war zone and then complain when they are inadvertently killed. Going directly into the line of fire has its logical consequences.

Also, I don’t believe for a second that those “innocent” volunteers don’t know where any of the hostages are. They are aiding and abetting terrorists.

Let’s stop pretending that World Central Kitchen is innocent here.

You know their founder is radically left.
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