Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote: Every time Ford and Kavanaugh dodged a question, in one chart

There were several noticeable differences between the Senate testimony of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and the woman accusing him of sexual assault, Christine Blasey Ford.

The most obvious was the tone each took. Ford was polite and quiet in recounting her accusation against Kavanaugh; he was angry and loud in his denials of the allegations against him.

Beyond the style of their testimonies, there was a striking difference in the content of their words. Both Ford and Kavanaugh fielded questions from senators and the prosecutor hired by Republicans, Rachel Mitchell.

But only Ford made an effort to answer every single question.

Kavanaugh actively dodged questions. He often repeated the same non-answer over and over. Other times, he insisted on answering a question with “context” — which inevitably was a long story about his childhood — but never actually answered the question.

We went through the transcript of the hearing and noted every single time a question was asked of Ford and Kavanaugh. (We didn’t include the times a questioner didn’t ask an explicit question.) Then we noted every instance in which answered the question or said they didn’t know the answer — and we also noted every time they either refused to answer or gave an answer that didn’t address the question. Here are the results:

I love internet. So this article documents the actual transcript in a format you can visually tell the kind of testimony CBF and BK provided. Someone would "love beer" a lot tonight!

Listen, I think he represented himself poorly yesterday just as much as anyone else. But I feel this isn’t a fair comparison. She was not questioned about HER drinking, high school yearbook, or anything else other than directly relevant to her accusation. He was openly mocked and ridiculed with questions that frankly would be an embarrassment to anyone. They also bullied him into dragging people like Renate through the mud. I have a high level security clearance and have gone through many background investigations - I too would be frightened and deflect if someone were demeaning my entire character based on silly sayings in my yearbook and the fact that I liked to drink when I was younger.

Then you should never have received that security clearance in the first place. You aren't trustworthy.

Seriously, what is it with all these people wanting to be in high positions losing their tempers? If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Brain Brett

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoQ3RYIFEGB/?taken-by=elarapictures

This is what I’ve been waiting for all day!

Just quoting this hilarious thing for people on this page of the thread who might have missed it

SO FUNNY!!!!

When he shuts up Lindsay Graham, I lost it!

I loved the eye roll of the wife over the beer for breakfast.

that was HILARIOUS! She was doing those expressions through the whole thing. I am sure she is a nice person but come on, it is clear she thinks he has a problem with alcohol. Maybe just deep down but it was written all over her face.

That’s not at all the impression I got. She seemed exhausted, as did he. Their lives have been ruined. But it’s nice that ruining someone’s life has provided so much entertainment for you.

How have their lives been ruined? This comes up over and over again!!! There are 9 supreme court justice slots. Maybe half of them, maybe even 6 open up over the course of a qualified person's career span. So, only 6 of his peers will get these jobs. His wife, parents and many of his friends have stuck by him. He, his wife and his children seem healthy. He already has a guaranteed job with interesting work and a great salary. His wife has a job. His kids are still at a stage where he is everything to him. Let's say he sails through - then he's like Justice Thomas - he has the job, but there is a cloud. Still, would justice Thomas say that he himself lives a ruined life? I doubt this. Lets say his nomination tanks. He goes back to his life, his 15 minutes of fame recedes, and these allegations are there, but if he truly did not do them, then he himself knows what he's about, and his wife, family and kids - and freinds, feel same and continue to stick by him. He loses the chance at the bench - that is "ruined". But is his life, and his familiy's life ruined?

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New fbi investigation will include Swetnick investigation too?

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Trump should refuse this blackmail. McConnell should call for a vote and let Collins, Flake, Manchin and MurKowski vote no on the record. This will ensure the defeat of Manchin in November and Collins in 2020. The government can't function like this. The current process will not be fair to future nominees.

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Anonymous wrote: WSJ: White House 'Shellshocked' by Developments; 'There's No Plan B'

"There's no Plan B here," the person said. Any backup plan, the person said, would not be "viable" given the timing of the midterm elections in early November.

Outrageous to decide on a lifetime appointment just for the sake of boosting your chances in a temporary election. This is no way to govern or run a country.

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Anonymous wrote:New fbi investigation will include Swetnick investigation too?

Judge has denied them, as has Kavanaugh, while under oath. Does that make them more credible, or less?

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Swetnick is a loon. Did you see the laughing, giggling interview she gave at the airport?

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Trump should refuse this blackmail. McConnell should call for a vote and let Collins, Flake, Manchin and MurKowski vote no on the record. This will ensure the defeat of Manchin in November and Collins in 2020. The government can't function like this. The current process will not be fair to future nominees.

Actually this is precisely how our government should function. A senate that takes seriously its Constitutional duty to advise and consent - which involves an honest and thorough vetting of Supreme Court Justices.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever you believe there is one thing I take away from this:

I'm scared to live in a world where we will believe something just because someone says it (whether you believe Ford or Bk). There is literally no proof in either direction. No witnesses really saying anything substantial on either side.

But regardless half are believing one side and the other half are believing the other side. With literally no proof. Am I the only one who finds this terrifying?

You've never been in court before, I'm guessing.

Rarely is there direct evidence. Cases are almost always decided on circumstantial evidence. In this instance, the general consensus is that Prof. Ford did not have a motivation to lie, there was some evidence that she mentioned the event well before his nomination, and you got to see her demeanor while testifying. Judge Kavanaugh has a motive to lie, you saw his demeanor at the hearing and on Fox News, and how he answered questions about what he was like in prep. School vs. the picture depicted in his yearbook.

No motive to lie except that LYING WILL DETERMIE THE BALANCE OF THE SCOTUS FOR DECADES. Other than that, no motive.

But why would she do this? This is a woman who has a very protected private life as a college professor, has stayed out of politics and the limelight as much as possible. Now you are saying that she would go out of her way to push herself into the center of national politics, making up details about an incident that never happened to risk being found out and charged with perjury to Congress, to push her family into the national politics, get death threats, have her complete life invaded upon by the media so that her entire family had to move out of their home to evade the press, have her classes invaded with papparazzi trying to ask her questions during a lecture, harrass her students, harass her family have her and her family's personal information including phone numbers, cell numbers, emails, work locations all outed so they could be stalked around the clock, have her email hacked, and so many more indignities just to make a political stand about the balance of the SCOTUS? From a woman who has stayed away from politics for all of her adult life? To make such a strong political stand, to risk so much and to endanger her family, lose her home, her privacy, and her personal security?

If you truly think that what you've posited is at all a conceivable motivation for her to fabricate this testimony and accusation, then you and I are not even in the same realm of conversation. You belong to the tin foil hat contingent who see conspiracy behind everything. I can't think of a single person man or woman who is like Dr. Ford who would ever consider what you suggest.

Do you have any doubts to the authenticity of the claims made by multiple women towards Bill Clinton of harassment and even rape? Couldn't you ask the same question, why would they lie? Why risk scrutiny, disbelief and threats from the public? I have yet to meet a female Democrat who took Clinton's accusers seriously. This obviously shows that they are open to the possibility that political motivations could motivate women to lie. Serious question, but if you see it so unlikely that Christine Ford would risk making a false allegation, do you give the same benefit of the doubt towards Clinton's accusers?

Yes. I believe that Bill Clinton was a slimeball who had no respect for women. I believe those woman and I believe that Clinton should have been convicted after his impeachment.

+1. Objections to the behavior of these men is not all political.

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Trump should refuse this blackmail. McConnell should call for a vote and let Collins, Flake, Manchin and MurKowski vote no on the record. This will ensure the defeat of Manchin in November and Collins in 2020. The government can't function like this. The current process will not be fair to future nominees.

Actually this is precisely how our government should function. A senate that takes seriously its Constitutional duty to advise and consent - which involves an honest and thorough vetting of Supreme Court Justices.

PP thinks Trump is king.

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Trump should refuse this blackmail. McConnell should call for a vote and let Collins, Flake, Manchin and MurKowski vote no on the record. This will ensure the defeat of Manchin in November and Collins in 2020. The government can't function like this. The current process will not be fair to future nominees.

Agree. They should have the vote, get a No on the record, and move on. Pick better next time, please.

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The father of the Parkland shooting victim, the one your dear Brett didn't want to shake hands with, told him that no, his life was not ruined. A life ruined is having your child shot dead.

Don't you dare say that Kavanaugh's life is ruined.

Dr. Ford's life isn't ruined either.

Oh please. Stop with the hyperbole. You are like the person who says that the person who just recovered from a heart attack cannot claim that they almost died because they don't have brain cancer. Or the person who is grieving because they had a miscarriage cannot understand loss because they didn't lose a living child.

The world is not completely black and white. There are degrees to everything. I think both Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford can say that their lives have been ruined.

As I pointed out earlier, Dr. Ford has been chased out of her house, her family is in seclusion under armed guard due to death threats. She cannot go back to her job because the papparazzi have invaded her classrooms and school, harassed her students and coworkers. Her private phone numbers, cell phone numbers, addresses and homes have all been publically distributed.

Judge Kavanaugh has been painted as guilty by the media. His family and children have also been harassed and he's had to explain to relatively young daughters that he has been accused of sexually assaulting multiple women. Due to the notoriety, he will likely lose his nomination, he may lose his current job as a circuit court judge and he may never be allowed to teach again, something he is fond of. If he is guilty, then this isn't a problem, but it is unlikely that anyone will ever be able to prove conclusively that he is guilty or innocent. But he will be presumed guilty and suffer the consequences of that shadow for the rest of his life.

Let's turn your life completely unside down, threaten your family, privacy, job, home, and children and then tell us that your life is not ruined just because you didn't bury your child.

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Trump should refuse this blackmail. McConnell should call for a vote and let Collins, Flake, Manchin and MurKowski vote no on the record. This will ensure the defeat of Manchin in November and Collins in 2020. The government can't function like this. The current process will not be fair to future nominees.

Mancin is up by 9 points in the polling. This vote won't define him.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Brain Brett

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoQ3RYIFEGB/?taken-by=elarapictures

This is what I’ve been waiting for all day!

Just quoting this hilarious thing for people on this page of the thread who might have missed it

SO FUNNY!!!!

When he shuts up Lindsay Graham, I lost it!

I loved the eye roll of the wife over the beer for breakfast.

that was HILARIOUS! She was doing those expressions through the whole thing. I am sure she is a nice person but come on, it is clear she thinks he has a problem with alcohol. Maybe just deep down but it was written all over her face.

That’s not at all the impression I got. She seemed exhausted, as did he. Their lives have been ruined. But it’s nice that ruining someone’s life has provided so much entertainment for you.

The video was funny.

Everyone is sympathetic to her. No one plans to be married to someone who makes choices that get you dragged through the mud (and choosing to go for SCOTUS is like running for president - the mud is there!)

You know who else has had a hard time because they discovered they were married to someone accused of sexual assault:

Camille Cosby
Georgina Chapman
Annette Roque (Matt Lauer's wife)
Stephanie Nassar
Sue Paterno
Hillary Clinton

Let's show all of them compassion. But no, they are not entitled to as much compassion as the actual VICTIMS of sexual assault.

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Anonymous wrote:New fbi investigation will include Swetnick investigation too?

Judge has denied them, as has Kavanaugh, while under oath. Does that make them more credible, or less?

Nope, Judge has not denied them. Kavanaugh is the only one who has provided a straight denial.