Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

omg. Your kid will be fine. We live in RM cluster, HH, and neighbor of mine said their kids were in HS when the Wootton to RM happened. Sure, some parents sent their kids to private school, but they said their kids went to RM, and they did great. They are very successful today.

Crown will have plenty of AP classes, but let's say it won't. Your high performing kid has a better chance at top colleges coming from a higher FARMs rate school like Crown than Wootton. Your kid can be a big fish in a small pond at Crown, compared to super competitive Wootton.

Seriously you’re out of touch. RM can have a lot of AP classes due to a strong IB cohort. Similar to Blair, non magnet students get access to some of the rigorous courses. Crown is not designed to be successful at all four options.

I think you don't know the RM cluster. Lots of non IB kids are in those AP classes, including my own.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

+1 I will do the same. Just too risky. Can't afford to risk my kid's entire HS education on a brand new HS.

where are going to move to that's affordable for you and has a reputation like Wootton?

Another poor neighborhood which doesn’t get rezoned to crown. We can’t afford houses in Potomac.

Which poorer neighborhood do you think has a HS that will offer more AP classes than Crown, especially given that you have no clue what the Crown boundary will look like right now?

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

True but like I said, it's something that they should evaluate to see if it's worth doing.

It doesn't even have to be out of the county. They can just move into the area of the school that they want.

To me it's really that easy and not worth all this huffing and puffing.

Financial loss is a factor. So it'd have to be up to them to decide if it's really worth it.

Some neighborhoods are talking about getting a lawyer to sue. But on what basis are they going to sue?

So if they're really that unhappy about it, the only thing they can really do is move.

Like I said, it's something that people should seriously consider. But some people might determine that it's not a possibility for them.

Some legal basis like discriminating the townhouses from single family houses and a small poorer neighborhood compared to richer neighborhoods. They shouldn’t even start any options like these. Hopefully they will remove these nonsense next round.

Just asked ChatGPT

If the redistricting plan singles out townhouses, renters, or poorer neighborhoods, and appears to benefit wealthier or single-family areas, there may be a basis to challenge it—especially if this results in educational inequality.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

+1 I will do the same. Just too risky. Can't afford to risk my kid's entire HS education on a brand new HS.

where are going to move to that's affordable for you and has a reputation like Wootton?

Another poor neighborhood which doesn’t get rezoned to crown. We can’t afford houses in Potomac.

Which poorer neighborhood do you think has a HS that will offer more AP classes than Crown, especially given that you have no clue what the Crown boundary will look like right now?

Another poor neighborhood in Wootton. It’s not like they can remove the whole North Potomac out of Wootton. Some will stay and some will leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

omg. Your kid will be fine. We live in RM cluster, HH, and neighbor of mine said their kids were in HS when the Wootton to RM happened. Sure, some parents sent their kids to private school, but they said their kids went to RM, and they did great. They are very successful today.

Crown will have plenty of AP classes, but let's say it won't. Your high performing kid has a better chance at top colleges coming from a higher FARMs rate school like Crown than Wootton. Your kid can be a big fish in a small pond at Crown, compared to super competitive Wootton.

Seriously you’re out of touch. RM can have a lot of AP classes due to a strong IB cohort. Similar to Blair, non magnet students get access to some of the rigorous courses. Crown is not designed to be successful at all four options.

I think you don't know the RM cluster. Lots of non IB kids are in those AP classes, including my own.

You’re saying exactly what I said. Unless crown has a magnet program, I don’t see how crown can be as successful as RM.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

omg. Your kid will be fine. We live in RM cluster, HH, and neighbor of mine said their kids were in HS when the Wootton to RM happened. Sure, some parents sent their kids to private school, but they said their kids went to RM, and they did great. They are very successful today.

Crown will have plenty of AP classes, but let's say it won't. Your high performing kid has a better chance at top colleges coming from a higher FARMs rate school like Crown than Wootton. Your kid can be a big fish in a small pond at Crown, compared to super competitive Wootton.

You are delusional if think parents are going to settle for a mediocre school like RM or Crown. If they have the means to move or get a COSA, they will. There is a reason people pay more money to live in certain school districts.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

omg. Your kid will be fine. We live in RM cluster, HH, and neighbor of mine said their kids were in HS when the Wootton to RM happened. Sure, some parents sent their kids to private school, but they said their kids went to RM, and they did great. They are very successful today.

Crown will have plenty of AP classes, but let's say it won't. Your high performing kid has a better chance at top colleges coming from a higher FARMs rate school like Crown than Wootton. Your kid can be a big fish in a small pond at Crown, compared to super competitive Wootton.

You are delusional if think parents are going to settle for a mediocre school like RM or Crown. If they have the means to move or get a COSA, they will. There is a reason people pay more money to live in certain school districts.

It’s gonna be a bad school, not as bad as some others but still gonna have gang problems with all four options. Wootton is a mediocre school, but at least have good peers.

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For college admissions can be better to be in a "bad" school. Think ahead lol

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Anonymous wrote:For college admissions can be better to be in a "bad" school. Think ahead lol

That’s an urban myth. Churchill had like 30-40 Ivy League last year. Which bad school in MCPS besides the magnet program has so many?

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Anonymous wrote:For college admissions can be better to be in a "bad" school. Think ahead lol

Not really. People misunderstand that competing against others in your school means you are only competing against others in your school. You are also competing across your zip code, and across MCPS. The fact that MCPS has so many various magnets, IB etc it’s hard to show you took the most rigorous path even if your particular school doesn’t offer as much due to the population,

Going to a bad school in MCPS isn’t giving you a boost, just a bad school. If you want the bad school bump, go to PG or DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:someone said these were just the initial options. When are they going to put out more (better) options?

September

So September will be the final option?

No there will be more rounds. Also, next round does not mean that original options won't be picked.

You are saying that even September options come out different from original options, the final ultimate decision could be coming from original 4 options, september options and other options afterward?

Yes, that's the answer MCPS gave when some one asked this exact question.

Clearly, just because different options will come in Sept, hardly means that original options won't be picked.

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Anonymous wrote:For college admissions can be better to be in a "bad" school. Think ahead lol

Not really. People misunderstand that competing against others in your school means you are only competing against others in your school. You are also competing across your zip code, and across MCPS. The fact that MCPS has so many various magnets, IB etc it’s hard to show you took the most rigorous path even if your particular school doesn’t offer as much due to the population,

Going to a bad school in MCPS isn’t giving you a boost, just a bad school. If you want the bad school bump, go to PG or DCPS.

Yeah moving to crown only hurts these students who could excel at Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:For college admissions can be better to be in a "bad" school. Think ahead lol

Huge myth. It takes literally 10 minutes to see college admission recor and normalize it for FARMS.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

If you’re that worried, then just put them in dual enrollment at Montgomery College. They will graduate and have an associates degree at the same time. There’s absolutely no reason to think that crown will be such a terrible high school that your child will fail.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on past boundary changes, do we know what happens with kids at magnet schools? For example, let's say a student is initially zoned to Wootton and gets accepted in the Blair magnet program, which they begin in 9th grade. What happens if they are zoned to Crown starting in 10th grade and Crown is grouped with the Poolesville magnet rather than the Blair magnet? Would that student need to switch magnet programs starting in 10th grade?

I don’t know if Blair would even exist for the current 7th grader who will be the 9th graders who have to be forced to leave their current schools. MCPS is talking about replacing the countywide magnet program with 6 regional programs. I don’t know how MCPS can support 6 programs while they struggle to retain good teachers at Blair magnet. I guess they’ll just be watered down and not worth attending.

Wow just more reasons to add to why MCPS is not worth it anymore.

Other school systems don't have the same options of these magnet and IB programs like MCPS has. And in fact some people in other school systems think that it's ridiculous how there are so many options for MCPS students to go to schools other than their school of residence.

We saw it as a positive where our kids would have the opportunity to keep getting challenged and keeping growing if it meets their needs. And was a factor in staying in MCPS. Turns out none of our kids qualified for the programs but it was nice that the option was there if we needed/wanted it.

And sorry but I find it hard to believe that these more regional AP/IB programs are as rigorous as the more traditional ones at Blair, RM, Poolesville, etc.

It doesn’t matter what you believe. We had a single county-wide stem magnet in the 1980s. The county is much bigger now than it was then and can probably support multiple rigorous programs, since there are that many more qualified students.

Also, Fairfax and other counties of similar size do have many optional programs like we do. You just have no clue and are comparing with small counties

Hmm. Maybe. But Fairfax also has a lot of jobs, where many companies choosing to move their headquarters of there instead of Montgomery County.

Montgomery County seems to want to get most of it's revenue from residential taxes, so keeps on building homes, which leaves to overcrowding of schools and no jobs. Fairfax sure is looking better now.

I'm aware of the jobs situation. You were replying to me, and I live in MoCo, but work in Fairfax. I always say the only way I can afford to live in MoCo is because I don't work there. That said, Fairfax isn't really the best always either. I have family at FCPS (Fairfax). They certainly seem to place enrichment slower for regular tracks and have an insane focus on these language immersions, though MoCo is getting that way also. I find overall FCPS to be a bit weaker than MCPS. There is huge disparity here as well between schools.

Personally my quality of life went down when I left my job with a fifteen minute commute in Montgomery County to an hour commute outside of the county.

Both my family's quality of life would probably improve if I had the shorter commute again and I'd probably be more productive at work too.

At my kids current age, we're gearing up for high school and college. So if we move to Virginia, we'd also have access to the number of public schools there.

I've known families leaving Montgomery County for the past twenty years or so. To Fairfax, Frederick and Howard County. We just stuck around for the stability.

If anyone doesn't work in Montgomery County and is unhappy with the proposed boundary options, I'd strongly recommend considering moving closer to work. I know there are other factors, such as maybe going from split articulating to another school with 1 or 2 elementary school classmates to a whole another area where they know no one.

But a lot of people in some of these communities are doctorates and moving around while they were pursuing it and had a family is nothing new.

So I think it's something they should seriously consider. I'm already planning to contact my realtor depending on the proposals look in September.

Sometimes moving isn't an option because of other circumstances.

It is not. But if my 9th grader is forced to leave Wootton and attend crown as the first graduating class, then we will have to move, basically being forced to move.

WHy would that make you forced to move?

Who wants to force 9th grader leave their friends and go to crown not knowing if crown can offer the same rigorous curriculum as Wootton? Will they even offer the same AP classes 10th grade Wootton students can sign up for? Many high schools don’t offer some AP classes due to lack of students signing up. It doesn’t seem crown has a strong cohort to support these rigorous classes, let alone the first year graduate. Do colleges even know this brand new high school with no proven records? Too much uncertainty.

If you’re that worried, then just put them in dual enrollment at Montgomery College. They will graduate and have an associates degree at the same time. There’s absolutely no reason to think that crown will be such a terrible high school that your child will fail.

What? My kids are ready to take calculus AP at 10th grade. You tell me to go to Montgomery college? It’s not the same rigor.