Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it’s just me but it seems inappropriate to go gawk at a vessel that is a tomb for thousands of unfortunate souls.


Like visiting say....Arlington National Cemetery? Yeah, weird!
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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?


Many submersibles have gone down there. Even Titan has gone down before and returned.

Didn’t James Cameron go down there?

Over 30 times since 1995. Cameron has a deep-sea exploration company and his own submersibles.


Have there been any interviews, comments, tweets from him? Curious what his reaction is...


No public statements on Titan but some general interviews on the topic in past:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/20/entertainment/james-cameron-titanic-wreckage/index.html
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Well where the heck is it and why can’t anyone find it?

-Betty M.
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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?


I think the first to take photos was an unmanned sub. But there have been manned subs, like Alvin, which is a spherical sub made out of titanium. The lost titan is different because it’s a tourist sub, not made by a huge research institution like Wood’s hole like Alvin.

Makes sense. Thank you.


Yes, remember in the movie, the divers are using robots to film and that's how the necklace was recovered?


Wait... some of the footage in the Titanic is real footage? Wait, what?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?


I think the first to take photos was an unmanned sub. But there have been manned subs, like Alvin, which is a spherical sub made out of titanium. The lost titan is different because it’s a tourist sub, not made by a huge research institution like Wood’s hole like Alvin.

Makes sense. Thank you.


Yes, remember in the movie, the divers are using robots to film and that's how the necklace was recovered?


Wait... some of the footage in the Titanic is real footage? Wait, what?


James Cameron has been down there about a zillion times
Anonymous
I wonder what bezos is feeling. Grandiosity that his version of extreme adventuring is more reliable? Fear that he will be lumped in with these charlatans?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what bezos is feeling. Grandiosity that his version of extreme adventuring is more reliable? Fear that he will be lumped in with these charlatans?


Someone will ask him and then you will know.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Now I’m wondering if the CEO pulled a Germanwings Flight 9525.

He was facing lawsuits. He said the venture was not profitable. The industry had publicly spoken out against his operation and lack of commitment to safety. His comments in the media were odd and almost verging on suicidal/nonchalant about death and safety.

What if he purposely ended things? No one would ever know.


And let a 19 year old board with him?
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Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?


I think the first to take photos was an unmanned sub. But there have been manned subs, like Alvin, which is a spherical sub made out of titanium. The lost titan is different because it’s a tourist sub, not made by a huge research institution like Wood’s hole like Alvin.

Makes sense. Thank you.


Yes, remember in the movie, the divers are using robots to film and that's how the necklace was recovered?


Wait... some of the footage in the Titanic is real footage? Wait, what?


Yes, it is.
Anonymous
My gosh how quickly you forget. SpaceX had a ton of failures with Falcon 9, but they persevered through failed land and water landings as late as June 2016 and now they are regularly carrying satellites, cargo and people to space.

More people have been to space than the bottom of the oceans. I applaud pioneers like Stockton Rush for innovating.

So many are quoting an ex employee and his lawsuit from FIVE years ago as gospel to what Titan is today. His claim of the PortHole only being certified to 1400M is the only source of countless news articles. His claim from a five year old lawsuit from an ex employee doesn’t make it true.

I hope they are floating somewhere on the surface.

You would be surprised just how much “off the shelf” hardware is inside the Dragon capsule. So stop slamming it as you just sound silly.

I saw someone putting down the unpainted rusted construction steel pipes used as ballast they could release to go the surface as some example of shoddy engineering. Do you honestly think steel to be left at the bottom of the ocean needs to be all shiny painted and pretty?
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it’s just me but it seems inappropriate to go gawk at a vessel that is a tomb for thousands of unfortunate souls.


Like visiting say....Arlington National Cemetery? Yeah, weird!


A cemetery where the dead are buried and respected with headstones and is a fair bit different than a site of mass suffering and death where remains were necessarily left to rot. Obviously there is nothing left of them today, but it still seems a creepy thing.
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Anonymous wrote:My gosh how quickly you forget. SpaceX had a ton of failures with Falcon 9, but they persevered through failed land and water landings as late as June 2016 and now they are regularly carrying satellites, cargo and people to space.

More people have been to space than the bottom of the oceans. I applaud pioneers like Stockton Rush for innovating.

So many are quoting an ex employee and his lawsuit from FIVE years ago as gospel to what Titan is today. His claim of the PortHole only being certified to 1400M is the only source of countless news articles. His claim from a five year old lawsuit from an ex employee doesn’t make it true.

I hope they are floating somewhere on the surface.

You would be surprised just how much “off the shelf” hardware is inside the Dragon capsule. So stop slamming it as you just sound silly.

I saw someone putting down the unpainted rusted construction steel pipes used as ballast they could release to go the surface as some example of shoddy engineering. Do you honestly think steel to be left at the bottom of the ocean needs to be all shiny painted and pretty?


This is not the same thing as space X. I am no Elon musk fan but space X doesn’t operate in a way that is a blatant risk to human life. Neither does NASA or many other organizations that focus on exploration.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?


I think the first to take photos was an unmanned sub. But there have been manned subs, like Alvin, which is a spherical sub made out of titanium. The lost titan is different because it’s a tourist sub, not made by a huge research institution like Wood’s hole like Alvin.

Makes sense. Thank you.


Yes, remember in the movie, the divers are using robots to film and that's how the necklace was recovered?


Wait... some of the footage in the Titanic is real footage? Wait, what?


Most of it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May I ask a dumb question?

We have pics of the Titanic wreck, so clearly someone has been down there before? How did they live to tell the tale?


I think the first to take photos was an unmanned sub. But there have been manned subs, like Alvin, which is a spherical sub made out of titanium. The lost titan is different because it’s a tourist sub, not made by a huge research institution like Wood’s hole like Alvin.

Makes sense. Thank you.


Yes, remember in the movie, the divers are using robots to film and that's how the necklace was recovered?


Wait... some of the footage in the Titanic is real footage? Wait, what?


Most of it is.


There’s an interesting interview with James Cameron on the web where he talks about how the movie was in furtherance of his desire to visit and film the Titanic, not the other way around. He had no special urge to tell the Titanic story, but rather an urge to justify some of the cost of his visits to the wreck as production costs for the film.
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Anonymous wrote:My gosh how quickly you forget. SpaceX had a ton of failures with Falcon 9, but they persevered through failed land and water landings as late as June 2016 and now they are regularly carrying satellites, cargo and people to space.

More people have been to space than the bottom of the oceans. I applaud pioneers like Stockton Rush for innovating.

So many are quoting an ex employee and his lawsuit from FIVE years ago as gospel to what Titan is today. His claim of the PortHole only being certified to 1400M is the only source of countless news articles. His claim from a five year old lawsuit from an ex employee doesn’t make it true.

I hope they are floating somewhere on the surface.

You would be surprised just how much “off the shelf” hardware is inside the Dragon capsule. So stop slamming it as you just sound silly.

I saw someone putting down the unpainted rusted construction steel pipes used as ballast they could release to go the surface as some example of shoddy engineering. Do you honestly think steel to be left at the bottom of the ocean needs to be all shiny painted and pretty?


This is not the same thing as space X. I am no Elon musk fan but space X doesn’t operate in a way that is a blatant risk to human life. Neither does NASA or many other organizations that focus on exploration.


Read the Challenger report sometime to see how wrong this statement truly is.
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