Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post just published an editorial on a new scientific theory about weight gain that is fascinating, and pretty supportive of the material in the original article from this thread: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/28/obesity-carbohydrates-insulin-calories-fat/

In particular, this:

"This is a different model of obesity, the carbohydrate-insulin model. This theory puts the blame for rising levels of obesity on the processed, fast-digesting carbs that flooded our diets during the low-fat diet craze — white bread, white rice, prepared breakfast cereals, potato products and sugary foods. It posits that consumption of these carbohydrates raises insulin levels too high and produces other hormonal changes that program our body to store extra fat.

Looked at this way, obesity isn’t an overeating problem, it’s a calorie distribution problem — too many calories from each meal being siphoned off into fat tissue and too few remaining in the blood to satisfy the energy needs of the body. Consequently, our brains make us feel hungrier sooner after eating to compensate for those sequestered calories. If we try to ignore hunger and restrict calories, the body conserves energy by slowing metabolism. In this sense, obesity is a state of starvation amid plenty."

It’s not just highly processed carbs though. It’s all carbs. The highly processed stuff is just more prevalent. I’ve been maintaining my weight and adding back in things like baked potato, sweet potatoes, brown rice or whole wheat bread will bring my weight back up too. To maintain my weight I still need to just get my carbs from low or lower carb veggies and fruit like spinach, cabbage, lettuce, tomatoes, peppers, zucchini, asparagus, raspberries, strawberries etc.

DP. I was glad to read the WaPo article which confirms my personal experience (posted on another thread). I’ve been eating around 1000 calories a day without feeling hungry by cutting out all carbs except only enough high fiber/lo carb foods to get about 25-40 grams of fiber. I combine that with high protein and it has totally minimized my appetite. I lost 15 pounds and do not have any cravings or real hunger. Before starting this diet, I ate everything and would be insatiably hungry even when I had already eaten a lot.

What are some examples of the high fiber low carb foods you are eating?

How old are you? Male or female?

55 female - greens, peppers, mushrooms, yellow and green squash, asparagus, broc, brussels sprouts, cabbage, etc. raspberries, blackberries, low carb high fiber breads and tortillas, high protein dairy. No sugar, flour, grains, no cereals, no oatmeal. most proteins. I lost 15 pounds in 2-3 months. Yesterday when I went to the doctor, my blood pressure has gone from borderline high to solidly normal. I will be vefy interested to see if there is a change in my bloodwork.

Thanks for sharing! Congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s carbs both junk and not. I gained weight during the pandemic from baking bread , baking new cakes and making homemade pasta. Nothing processed, all from scratch.

Sit down restaurants are also a huge problem including your cool local restaurants where your entree alone that you think is so healthy is really your entires day worth of calories. A lot of the trendy plant based meals are insanely high in carbs but because it’s woke, they think it can’t make you fat. It can and does.
Family potlucks loaded with potato filled casseroles or Mexican fiestas loaded with corn tortillas, rice, beans or Indian holidays loaded with breads and rice are all problematic.

Chefs, home cooks and trendy recipe creators are all seeking flavor and experience. This leads to not just high fat but high carbs that give you a dopamine kick making you want more.

If you want to not be fat, you have to avoid all that not live in a fantasy world that it just the food industry and some fool is going to save you from it.

Oh, you’re dumb. I see. My condolences.

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

DP. No, that is entirely wrong. Sorry to disappoint.

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

What's funny is that you're trying to correct "grammar" but you're only giving notes on "punctuation". Well done PP for looking even more like a fool.

[Anonymous]

We've become a society that is lazy and shaming those that are not fat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've become a society that is lazy and shaming those that are not fat

Bill Mahr is a misogynistic fat shamer.

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

What's funny is that you're trying to correct "grammar" but you're only giving notes on "punctuation". Well done PP for looking even more like a fool.

Why are you two bickering about grammar and puctuation? This is a health forum, not an English language class. Please try to stay on topic and stop trying to one-up the preivious poster. We are all sometimes right, we are all sometimes wrong, there is no harm in being kind and ignoring anonymous internet posters when you disagree with what you might perceive as their stupidity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

What's funny is that you're trying to correct "grammar" but you're only giving notes on "punctuation". Well done PP for looking even more like a fool.

Why are you two bickering about grammar and puctuation? This is a health forum, not an English language class. Please try to stay on topic and stop trying to one-up the preivious poster. We are all sometimes right, we are all sometimes wrong, there is no harm in being kind and ignoring anonymous internet posters when you disagree with what you might perceive as their stupidity.

I hate stupid posters who try to attack people, you're just the same.

[Anonymous]

I think if you are relying on Bill Maher to make your point, you’ve lost. The man is a misogynist idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

What's funny is that you're trying to correct "grammar" but you're only giving notes on "punctuation". Well done PP for looking even more like a fool.

Why are you two bickering about grammar and puctuation? This is a health forum, not an English language class. Please try to stay on topic and stop trying to one-up the preivious poster. We are all sometimes right, we are all sometimes wrong, there is no harm in being kind and ignoring anonymous internet posters when you disagree with what you might perceive as their stupidity.

I hate stupid posters who try to attack people, you're just the same.

Dp, this poster was spot on and I think her post should be a sticky note. Let’s go back to health topic please

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think if you are relying on Bill Maher to make your point, you’ve lost. The man is a misogynist idiot.

And such an arrogant fat shamer. He’s obnoxious.

[Anonymous]

So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Yeah. Dammit, I decided to treat my anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

80 pages in, and you’ve decided to dismiss all of the factors that are arguably and sometimes inarguably outside of any one individual’s “own decision making”. I agree that there are real ramifications to an obese nation — both individually and collectively. Pretending that individual “”decision making” can effectively address issues that stem from countless corporate, civic, and even inaccurate medical “decisions “ with systemic impacts is not helpful to anyone either.