Everything you know about obesity is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

Yes, it is. It’s your decision to put time, money and energy into being a healthy weight. And it does take time to do that - prepare food, exercise, shop healthy etc. it’s either a priority or it’s not. We all have different priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

Yes, it is. It’s your decision to put time, money and energy into being a healthy weight. And it does take time to do that - prepare food, exercise, shop healthy etc. it’s either a priority or it’s not. We all have different priorities.

It isn’t about priorities. You are ignorant. If someone is raised to eat highly processed foods and too much sugar, they will likely become overweight. It changes them metabolically. They cannot simply decide to prioritize a healthy diet and then become a normal weight. They may lose a few pounds, and some people lose many. But it becomes a lifelong struggle against ingrained habit and the brain’s innate mechanisms to hold on to weight as a survival mechanism. If you have always been a normal weight, then you have no clue how hard this is. Maintaining a healthy weight of you have never been fat is FAR easier than losing it once you have gained it.

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity will be cured/treatable in our lifetime. Eli Lilly’s got a new drug coming out in 2024 that is twice as effective as the one that just hit the market (Mounjaro). Really wild stuff. So worry not, fat-shamers, you won’t have to look at the fatties that much longer. Not sure how you’ll feed your superiority complex then, but that’s not my business.

Oooh really any articles?

NP

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-eli-lillys-experimental-weight-loss-drug

'Experts say the findings are interesting but it likely will not be a silver bullet to end obesity."

Fat people need to stop overeating. Drugs are not the answer.

Wow that’s some real wisdom you dropped. I bet no overweight or obese person has ever ate less or dieted before.

This should read "has ever eaten less" or "ever ate less" your grammar sucks.

There should be a period inside the parentheses after “ate less.” The Y in “your” should be capitalized.

Your grammar sucks.

What's funny is that you're trying to correct "grammar" but you're only giving notes on "punctuation". Well done PP for looking even more like a fool.

Why are you two bickering about grammar and puctuation? This is a health forum, not an English language class. Please try to stay on topic and stop trying to one-up the preivious poster. We are all sometimes right, we are all sometimes wrong, there is no harm in being kind and ignoring anonymous internet posters when you disagree with what you might perceive as their stupidity.

I hate stupid posters who try to attack people, you're just the same.

Dp, this poster was spot on and I think her post should be a sticky note. Let’s go back to health topic please

FACTS! The above poster willing to die on that hill.

Anyway, these new weight loss medications are game changers. I posted upthread about starting on Mournjaro and have lost 22llbs since I started in June. So easy not to obsess about food and overeat. Between that and Wegovy, so many lives can be saved.

[Anonymous]

This was a terrible article. I clicked thinking that there would be some substance, science, or any new material regarding the science behind obesity. Wrong. It basically stated for a few pages that fat shaming is wrong, obese people are more than likely depressed and bullied, and its stressful to lose weight. However, nowhere in the article was there any information that contradicted the basic fact that human behavior and dietary habits lead to obesity. Change your eating and exercise routine and you will lose weight.

Agreed that fat shaming is not helpful but why do we try so hard to run away from the basic premises of healthy eating? This is not rocket science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was a terrible article. I clicked thinking that there would be some substance, science, or any new material regarding the science behind obesity. Wrong. It basically stated for a few pages that fat shaming is wrong, obese people are more than likely depressed and bullied, and its stressful to lose weight. However, nowhere in the article was there any information that contradicted the basic fact that human behavior and dietary habits lead to obesity. Change your eating and exercise routine and you will lose weight.

Agreed that fat shaming is not helpful but why do we try so hard to run away from the basic premises of healthy eating? This is not rocket science.

Agreed. Not worth the time to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was a terrible article. I clicked thinking that there would be some substance, science, or any new material regarding the science behind obesity. Wrong. It basically stated for a few pages that fat shaming is wrong, obese people are more than likely depressed and bullied, and its stressful to lose weight. However, nowhere in the article was there any information that contradicted the basic fact that human behavior and dietary habits lead to obesity. Change your eating and exercise routine and you will lose weight.

Agreed that fat shaming is not helpful but why do we try so hard to run away from the basic premises of healthy eating? This is not rocket science.

+1. The title of this thread is way off. The article has nothing new - just a succinct message not to fat shame. We all have a ton of access to information on this subject - nothing new was offered.

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Anonymous wrote:This was a terrible article. I clicked thinking that there would be some substance, science, or any new material regarding the science behind obesity. Wrong. It basically stated for a few pages that fat shaming is wrong, obese people are more than likely depressed and bullied, and its stressful to lose weight. However, nowhere in the article was there any information that contradicted the basic fact that human behavior and dietary habits lead to obesity. Change your eating and exercise routine and you will lose weight.

Agreed that fat shaming is not helpful but why do we try so hard to run away from the basic premises of healthy eating? This is not rocket science.

I really agree with you. I've been thinking a lot about this article since I read it. While I certainly don't disagree with the fundamental premise that a lot of our food supply is bad and should be avoided, it does not minimize personal responsibility and choice. It's certainly not as if someone is force feeding bad food to Americans. Lots of people are raised with bad habits, and I get that it's hard to break them, but again - this is something we all really have to take some responsibility for, right?

And while I can understand (somewhat) the argument about cost/food deserts, the truth is, I can feed my family very healthfully on rice, beans, lentils, eggs, canned or frozen veggies, and carrots. In season fruit and veggies are not expensive either, and can be stretched with peanut butter. I buy meat when it's on sale, and stretch it with carrots, onions, lentils. Potatoes aren't expensive, and also can be a healthful addition to a diet. I avoid the processed stuff in the store at the moment, anyway, because it seems the most expensive lately (thanks, inflation!) And drink water! Juice and soda are so freaking expensive!

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

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I swear to god. I think a large portion of the DCUM readers have a specific illiteracy in this subject matter.

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

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I swear to god. I think a large portion of the DCUM readers have a specific illiteracy in this subject matter.

there are obese people with myopia, who do not want to attribute any responsibility to themselves for that obesity. They want to blame it on someone else - a parent and an upbringing and say in the face of education that it can't help them. This is not because it can't help them, but because they don't want to make the change. It's like an addiction.

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

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I swear to god. I think a large portion of the DCUM readers have a specific illiteracy in this subject matter.

there are obese people with myopia, who do not want to attribute any responsibility to themselves for that obesity. They want to blame it on someone else - a parent and an upbringing and say in the face of education that it can't help them. This is not because it can't help them, but because they don't want to make the change. It's like an addiction.

Thank you for proving my point.

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

+1
I swear to god. I think a large portion of the DCUM readers have a specific illiteracy in this subject matter.

there are obese people with myopia, who do not want to attribute any responsibility to themselves for that obesity. They want to blame it on someone else - a parent and an upbringing and say in the face of education that it can't help them. This is not because it can't help them, but because they don't want to make the change. It's like an addiction.

I’m fit with a healthy BMI and I think the “it’s just willpower” DCUM posters are incredibly, bizarrely ignorant. It’s like they want to remain ignorant because they prefer being judgmental to being educated.

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Anonymous wrote:So - the reasons people are fat varies and have been discussed here. At the end of the day - it is about your own decision making.

There are real ramifications to an obese nation - increased health care costs and the next Covid is for certain coming soon. So what to do? I do think making fat the near norm is not helpful to anyone.

Really, that's your takeaway?

+1
I swear to god. I think a large portion of the DCUM readers have a specific illiteracy in this subject matter.

there are obese people with myopia, who do not want to attribute any responsibility to themselves for that obesity. They want to blame it on someone else - a parent and an upbringing and say in the face of education that it can't help them. This is not because it can't help them, but because they don't want to make the change. It's like an addiction.

I’m fit with a healthy BMI and I think the “it’s just willpower” DCUM posters are incredibly, bizarrely ignorant. It’s like they want to remain ignorant because they prefer being judgmental to being educated.

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It makes them feel superior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was a terrible article. I clicked thinking that there would be some substance, science, or any new material regarding the science behind obesity. Wrong. It basically stated for a few pages that fat shaming is wrong, obese people are more than likely depressed and bullied, and its stressful to lose weight. However, nowhere in the article was there any information that contradicted the basic fact that human behavior and dietary habits lead to obesity. Change your eating and exercise routine and you will lose weight.

Agreed that fat shaming is not helpful but why do we try so hard to run away from the basic premises of healthy eating? This is not rocket science.

It actually seems to be even more of a challenge than rocket science. We have figured out how to get rockets into space, but we have not yet figured out how to stop the population from becoming more and more obese.

[Anonymous]

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