| When you have to come back to horribly inferior food quality, obscene prices for everything and sooooooo much crime. It’s amazing when you can travel to a major city in the world and see ZERO gun deaths for literally days and weeks on end. There’s better public infrastructure that embarrasses the U.S., things are a lot more walkable, healthcare is way more afford, and things just work. Man, it gets harder and harder to return after every trip abroad. The only thing worth retuning for are the salaries and that’s about it. |
| Well, you know, you could always emigrate if it's that hard. |
Yup, seriously thinking about it. Gun violence is way out of control and will never end. Driving everywhere sucks. Food sucks. Tipping culture sucks. Healthcare costs suck. Childcare costs suck. I dunno even know if the country can even survive another Trump presidency before he starts WW3 with Iran and North Korea. |
| You sound like a candidate for surrendering your citizenship. |
| What country was so magical that it prompted you to post? Truly curious. |
Japan. South Korea. Thailand. Singapore. Zero tipping. Cheap healthcare. Zero gun deaths on the news in Singapore, South Korea, and Japan. Amazing quality food in all of them. Public infrastructure that’s about 80 years more advanced than the U.S. in SK, Singapore, and Japan. |
I agree with you on healthcare, college, infrastructure and gun safety…the prices doesn’t really make sense. Maybe Thailand, Malaysia are what you are referring? I guess prices are low and while it’s not national healthcare…out of pocket and insurance is very low. Europe, clearly you pay through the nose for gas, groceries, booze, etc…but that does fund the other social benefits. |
Go it…but isn’t Thailand the only country with low prices? You clearly don’t have kids in Japan and SK. The academic system of just testing is brutal and nobody wants. I mean birthrates there are non-existent for a reason. |
| Don't let the door hit you on the way out! |
But the culture... Sure, emigrate if you want to and if you can. But you sound hopelessly naive. |
Those countries have high trust societies. We don’t have that in the US. We used to, but we don’t anymore. |
Even in Japan, dining out is cheap for the Japanese earning Japanese yen. We literally stayed at our friend’s house there and talked about it. Yes, sure, you can spend a lot on elite dining in Tokyo, but there are soooooooooo many cheap to middle level options fir dining that are out of this world and way more affordable even by Japanese standards. And no tipping. The food quality at the grocery stores in all of those countries is superior, which is inexcusable given that the U.S. has vastly more room to grow food than an island nation like Japan. The quality of fruits in Thailand blows anything out of the water in the U.S., and you can buy like 2 kg of oranges for about $3, which is cheap even by Thai standards. We also needed an ER visit in Thailand for a broken wrist. The wait time was less than 30 minutes. X-rays, cast, medication and a follow up visit: grand total of $314. And that was completely out of pocket with zero insurance. So, soooooo much better than getting bankrupted for HC in the US even when you have insurance. |
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Air pollution is one of the major environmental issues in Japan. The number of deaths attributable to air pollution has been rising continuously to over 44 thousand deaths annually.
I imagine the rampant pollution must affect any locally produced food. |
Is this OP? You have the money to travel to all those places on the same trip, or even on successive trips, and you’re whining about the cost of things? |
Even in a country like Thailand that is ‘less safe’ than a country like Japan you feel incredibly safe compared to say walking around NYC/DC/Baltimore/Chicago vs Bangkok. While there were murders on the news in Thailand, nearly 100% of them were crimes of passion and lovers quarrels vs in the U.S. kids getting shot in school, people getting shot for winter coats, or getting shot just going to grocery store. Even though Bangkok can be gritty, it’s really not even remotely close to being unsafe as a city right up the road like Baltimore or even DC. |