Legacy- 4 Fold, T20

[Anonymous]

DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

[Anonymous]

1180 t20 does not compute so you must apply test optional. Unless you’ve given major $$$$$$$$$$ in the upper 6 figures the legacy won’t matter for a middling kid. Also if it’s Yale, even 3.8 from a “big 3” won’t work unless the kid is a recruited athlete or URM or major donor, so I would stop wasting brain energy on this endeavor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

[Anonymous]

If it's Harvard, they don't even ask about legacy on the application so, no, it doesn't help. The places that care about legacy seem to make it pretty clear. Otherwise, you should assume only big donors matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it's Harvard, they don't even ask about legacy on the application so, no, it doesn't help. The places that care about legacy seem to make it pretty clear. Otherwise, you should assume only big donors matter.

Harvard definitely cares and asks about legacy. If they didn’t the lawsuit about Harvard’s legacy admissions process wouldn’t have legs (5% of applicants are legacy and 30% of admits are legacy).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

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Don’t submit the SAT score (can he retake?) but have your son apply. It can’t hurt.

[Anonymous]

There's zero chance in hell your kid wil be turned away if his dad went there twice, his grandfather went there for law school and his other grandfather taught there for..... two decades. If he is turned away, f*ck them.

[Anonymous]

Is it Yale level or Middlebury level?

[Anonymous]

How much legacy helps with admissions will depend on the specific school.

Typically, parent attending undergrad matters most. Several top schools don't give legacy advantage for parent attending the grad school.

No one cares about the grandfather teaching at the med school.

Often, the legacy applicant is advised to apply in the early round, whether REA or ED.

[Anonymous]

Guessing that this school, being T20 - is likely not test optional, OP. You better start looking elsewhere (not T20!)

[Anonymous]

3.8/1180 are too low, together, for a legacy advantage to overcome. He would need top academic stats for legacy to make a difference. It's just a tip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guessing that this school, being T20 - is likely not test optional, OP. You better start looking elsewhere (not T20!)

DP. Pretty sure all T20 privates are test optional except for MIT, at least nominally, though you are correct that high academic stats are expected for a legacy advantage to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much legacy helps with admissions will depend on the specific school.

Typically, parent attending undergrad matters most. Several top schools don't give legacy advantage for parent attending the grad school.

No one cares about the grandfather teaching at the med school.

Often, the legacy applicant is advised to apply in the early round, whether REA or ED.

A grandparent teaching can be an asset. Given all the connections it’s worth applying and seeing where the chips fall. I have a friend whose grandfather taught very late in life at a SLAC after a distinguished career in public service. It definitely helped her get in but it’s not a quantifiable thing - and it won’t be for OP’s son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

[Anonymous]

If its Harvard then you get a bump from a parent/grandparent working there. I know this as relatives work for Harvard specifically for this reason and plenty if their coworkers take advantage of this.