Jerky things spouse has done

Anonymous
Thinking about that time when I was 8 months pregnant, and asked my husband to help me zip up my boots, and he refused, saying it would set a bad precedent. Why do these moments live on in my head? Also asked why I couldn’t drive myself to the hospital when I was in labor.
Anonymous
I assume it’s been downhill from there? What a dou**e!
Anonymous
“ Why do these moments live on in my head?”

Because you married an azzhole
Anonymous
He doesn't like you. I'd do those things for a person who I like and isn't even asking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He doesn't like you. I'd do those things for a person who I like and isn't even asking.


+1 I was on the metro, 9 months pregnant and a man, a stranger, noticed my shoe was untied. He pointed it out and offered to tie it for me. I let him!

Your husband couldn't have made his disregard more clear. I hope you're divorcing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He doesn't like you. I'd do those things for a person who I like and isn't even asking.


+1 I was on the metro, 9 months pregnant and a man, a stranger, noticed my shoe was untied. He pointed it out and offered to tie it for me. I let him!

Your husband couldn't have made his disregard more clear. I hope you're divorcing.


Totally!!!!
Anonymous
https://www.drpsychmom.com/empathic-ruptures-when-you-cant-forgive-your-partner-for-not-being-there-for-you/

Look into empathic ruptures. My DH pulled similar juvenile shenanigans when I was pregnant/ a new mother and I can’t forgive him. Looking back I shouldn’t have married him, but here we are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.drpsychmom.com/empathic-ruptures-when-you-cant-forgive-your-partner-for-not-being-there-for-you/

Look into empathic ruptures. My DH pulled similar juvenile shenanigans when I was pregnant/ a new mother and I can’t forgive him. Looking back I shouldn’t have married him, but here we are.


This is a really good article. I like the 4 numbered points. I’ve never seen an apology process laid out in 4 pieces before. I’m terrible at apologies and want to do better. (I see how celebrities mess up public apologies! But I can’t fix my personal ones)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.drpsychmom.com/empathic-ruptures-when-you-cant-forgive-your-partner-for-not-being-there-for-you/

Look into empathic ruptures. My DH pulled similar juvenile shenanigans when I was pregnant/ a new mother and I can’t forgive him. Looking back I shouldn’t have married him, but here we are.


This is a really good article. I like the 4 numbered points. I’ve never seen an apology process laid out in 4 pieces before. I’m terrible at apologies and want to do better. (I see how celebrities mess up public apologies! But I can’t fix my personal ones)


FYI, I am a NP. I don’t mean to act like I am OP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I assume it’s been downhill from there? What a dou**e!


The newborn stage was really tough. Did seriously consider divorce at that time, and fantasized about a lot worse than divorce. Picture him walking 10ft ahead of me, empty-handed, while I am a few days post-partum, trying to keep up, carrying the carseat with our newborn, and the diaper bag. And telling me he couldn't sleep with the baby in the room, so I had to move our baby out and sleep in another room.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.drpsychmom.com/empathic-ruptures-when-you-cant-forgive-your-partner-for-not-being-there-for-you/

Look into empathic ruptures. My DH pulled similar juvenile shenanigans when I was pregnant/ a new mother and I can’t forgive him. Looking back I shouldn’t have married him, but here we are.


This is a really good article. I like the 4 numbered points. I’ve never seen an apology process laid out in 4 pieces before. I’m terrible at apologies and want to do better. (I see how celebrities mess up public apologies! But I can’t fix my personal ones)


OP here. We did something close to these steps, about 2 years ago. I brought up several occurrences like these that I told him lived on in my mind and I had a hard time forgiving him for. I asked him to let me speak, because normally he interrupts, explains away, or says that it's unhealthy to bring up the past. And he actually sat in silence and listened, and that made a big difference. And then I really do think he was trying to understand and empathize. And he could see that it really hurt me. There was no apology, and he said he was silent because he was trying to really process what I was saying instead of responding. But he did acknowledge that he could see that the way he acted hurt me, and that he couldn't really explain why he acted the way he did. But in order to change, he would have to really shift his entire way of thinking.

It's been better after that. But I guess I have not taken that last step and actually forgiven him.
Anonymous
OP, I am so sorry. I am mad just reading what you wrote and feel disgust for your husband. He’s a bad person. Some people have bad person wiring, were the kids who “needed to learn empathy” (they NEVER DO. If you’re worried about your “difficult” child you KNOW it), were the younger men who could not be considerate after sleeping with them (men will be men! is the consensus here to wave that away). You and your DC don’t deserve this. He’s a total POS. I hope you leave one day and don’t look back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.drpsychmom.com/empathic-ruptures-when-you-cant-forgive-your-partner-for-not-being-there-for-you/

Look into empathic ruptures. My DH pulled similar juvenile shenanigans when I was pregnant/ a new mother and I can’t forgive him. Looking back I shouldn’t have married him, but here we are.


This is a really good article. I like the 4 numbered points. I’ve never seen an apology process laid out in 4 pieces before. I’m terrible at apologies and want to do better. (I see how celebrities mess up public apologies! But I can’t fix my personal ones)


OP here. We did something close to these steps, about 2 years ago. I brought up several occurrences like these that I told him lived on in my mind and I had a hard time forgiving him for. I asked him to let me speak, because normally he interrupts, explains away, or says that it's unhealthy to bring up the past. And he actually sat in silence and listened, and that made a big difference. And then I really do think he was trying to understand and empathize. And he could see that it really hurt me. There was no apology, and he said he was silent because he was trying to really process what I was saying instead of responding. But he did acknowledge that he could see that the way he acted hurt me, and that he couldn't really explain why he acted the way he did. But in order to change, he would have to really shift his entire way of thinking.

It's been better after that. But I guess I have not taken that last step and actually forgiven him.


NP. Why not revisit the steps you used and this time keep going until he reaches an apology and you reach forgiveness? Two years have gone by, and since you felt the need to vent here, you're still clearly not fully better off than you were. If other things in the marriage are OK, and he actually listened two years ago in a way that was new for him, why not keep trying to progress? If there was progress, don't let it stall. I know, young kid(s), work, life, all get in the way and the next thing we know, two years have passed and things are better but still...you're unable to let past things go and he's unable to apologize out loud. You saw him trying to empathize before, so he's not irredeemable, but you'd both have to make the time like you did then. I hope you can, and that it works out. A counselor could be a help, if you and DH can't get back into the groove of talking like you did two years ago.

The knee-jerk "just divorce!" posters on this site love to say that like it's oh, so very easy, and they seem to insist that there's never anything at all to salvage in an imperfect marriage. You'll get a LOT of support for divorce here but much less for working things out. You and he have potential to do the latter, based on what you wrote above.
Anonymous
Seems to me like it sets a good precedent...help zip up the boots, he might get to help unzip something later. But the labor thing is a dealbreaker...sheesh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I assume it’s been downhill from there? What a dou**e!


The newborn stage was really tough. Did seriously consider divorce at that time, and fantasized about a lot worse than divorce. Picture him walking 10ft ahead of me, empty-handed, while I am a few days post-partum, trying to keep up, carrying the carseat with our newborn, and the diaper bag. And telling me he couldn't sleep with the baby in the room, so I had to move our baby out and sleep in another room.


Speechless.
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