Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty certain I know what information was released about my child but I have called, emailed, even reached out to Michelle Reid saying I know what information was released but I want them to confirm what information they have turned over to Callie and others. I have gotten no response.

I honestly don't think they know what was released.


They know. Absolutely. How else would they have determined exactly which families to contact?
They paid $$$ to a forensic someone to retrace the steps, they know what was released., not
I agree with whoever posited that they have a plan to NOT TELL PARENTS ANYTHING, even though they could answer parents questions. They don't want to have to staff 30,000 inquiries for which document was sent out about which kid (although this should be their main priority, not pointing fingers at Oettinger, or ignoring the fact that a reporter has all the unredacted docs).


Agree that FCPS knows exactly what documents were given out. Because when you call their third party contractor, they ask for your "code" and based on your "code" they know whether your child's social security number was sent out, and those are the people they are offering free credit monitoring (for one year) to. Not everybody.
Anonymous
I emailed "privacy@fcps.edu" the day I received the letter. SO it sounds like they haven't responded to ANYONE yet.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We have been in fcps for 16 years and this is the first time it has been impossible to find an fcps employee who is the designated point of contact. Its unbelievable how much they are willing to spend to protecr Gatehouse staff from having to interact with parents on this. I agree with pp, there is zero point to the experian 1-800 number. They have no information.


Fcps has no reason to be accountable as they are funded generously without oversight. If they are held accountable by a competitive alternative like vouchers they would get their act together.


That’s not how any of that works.

Sorry. Taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize your kids’ private school.


FCPS, like many large school districts, faces challenges in managing its budget and resources effectively. For instance, there have been concerns about capacity issues in schools, with some like Centreville High School operating at 130% of their capacity, and plans for renovation not scheduled until 2025. Such capacity issues are significant and demonstrate the challenges faced by the district in meeting the needs of its students effectively​​.

In terms of budget, FCPS's Fiscal Year 2024 budget focused on student achievement and teacher recruitment, indicating an awareness of the need to invest in key areas for improving education quality​​​​. However, the large budget and the challenges in capacity and resource allocation could be seen as an indicator of inefficiencies or mismanagement of funds.

Introducing school vouchers in this context could be argued as a means to foster accountability and competition. When public schools like FCPS face competition from private schools, they might be more inclined to address inefficiencies and allocate resources more effectively to retain and attract students. The idea is that with the introduction of vouchers, public schools would have a direct incentive to improve their performance and be more responsive to students' and parents' needs.

Moreover, the argument that vouchers strip funding from public schools might not hold in this context. If a student opts for a voucher, the money that would have been spent on their education in the public system is what's allocated for the voucher, meaning it's a reallocation rather than a deduction from the existing school budget. This model of funding follows the student and could potentially lead to a more efficient use of resources in the public school system.

In conclusion, while FCPS faces challenges in terms of capacity and resource allocation, the introduction of school vouchers could potentially bring a competitive element that drives improvements and efficiency in the public school system. This competition could lead to better resource management and a higher quality of education, benefiting all students in the long run.
Anonymous
I think people would be surprised to find out how little FCPS spends per non-IEP, non-ESOL, non-FARMs pupil. You aren't going to get much out of a $3000 voucher.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been in fcps for 16 years and this is the first time it has been impossible to find an fcps employee who is the designated point of contact. Its unbelievable how much they are willing to spend to protecr Gatehouse staff from having to interact with parents on this. I agree with pp, there is zero point to the experian 1-800 number. They have no information.


Fcps has no reason to be accountable as they are funded generously without oversight. If they are held accountable by a competitive alternative like vouchers they would get their act together.


That’s not how any of that works.

Sorry. Taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize your kids’ private school.


FCPS, like many large school districts, faces challenges in managing its budget and resources effectively. For instance, there have been concerns about capacity issues in schools, with some like Centreville High School operating at 130% of their capacity, and plans for renovation not scheduled until 2025. Such capacity issues are significant and demonstrate the challenges faced by the district in meeting the needs of its students effectively​​.

In terms of budget, FCPS's Fiscal Year 2024 budget focused on student achievement and teacher recruitment, indicating an awareness of the need to invest in key areas for improving education quality​​​​. However, the large budget and the challenges in capacity and resource allocation could be seen as an indicator of inefficiencies or mismanagement of funds.

Introducing school vouchers in this context could be argued as a means to foster accountability and competition. When public schools like FCPS face competition from private schools, they might be more inclined to address inefficiencies and allocate resources more effectively to retain and attract students. The idea is that with the introduction of vouchers, public schools would have a direct incentive to improve their performance and be more responsive to students' and parents' needs.

Moreover, the argument that vouchers strip funding from public schools might not hold in this context. If a student opts for a voucher, the money that would have been spent on their education in the public system is what's allocated for the voucher, meaning it's a reallocation rather than a deduction from the existing school budget. This model of funding follows the student and could potentially lead to a more efficient use of resources in the public school system.

In conclusion, while FCPS faces challenges in terms of capacity and resource allocation, the introduction of school vouchers could potentially bring a competitive element that drives improvements and efficiency in the public school system. This competition could lead to better resource management and a higher quality of education, benefiting all students in the long run.


Blah blah blah. AI-generated, BS voucher talking points.

Nope. Republicans can pay for private school themselves. Taxpayers aren't going to subsidize them.
Anonymous
I really don't see the connection between vouchers and FCPS safeguarding private information.

Are you suggesting that I would take my child out of FCPS and shop around with my voucher and find a school that would specifically do a better job...not giving her information away on a thumb drive to a nosy parent? That's very specific.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I really don't see the connection between vouchers and FCPS safeguarding private information.

Are you suggesting that I would take my child out of FCPS and shop around with my voucher and find a school that would specifically do a better job...not giving her information away on a thumb drive to a nosy parent? That's very specific.


No because the Voucher People know no private schools will touch kids with IEPs with a ten foot pole.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been in fcps for 16 years and this is the first time it has been impossible to find an fcps employee who is the designated point of contact. Its unbelievable how much they are willing to spend to protecr Gatehouse staff from having to interact with parents on this. I agree with pp, there is zero point to the experian 1-800 number. They have no information.


Fcps has no reason to be accountable as they are funded generously without oversight. If they are held accountable by a competitive alternative like vouchers they would get their act together.


That’s not how any of that works.

Sorry. Taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize your kids’ private school.


FCPS, like many large school districts, faces challenges in managing its budget and resources effectively. For instance, there have been concerns about capacity issues in schools, with some like Centreville High School operating at 130% of their capacity, and plans for renovation not scheduled until 2025. Such capacity issues are significant and demonstrate the challenges faced by the district in meeting the needs of its students effectively​​.

In terms of budget, FCPS's Fiscal Year 2024 budget focused on student achievement and teacher recruitment, indicating an awareness of the need to invest in key areas for improving education quality​​​​. However, the large budget and the challenges in capacity and resource allocation could be seen as an indicator of inefficiencies or mismanagement of funds.

Introducing school vouchers in this context could be argued as a means to foster accountability and competition. When public schools like FCPS face competition from private schools, they might be more inclined to address inefficiencies and allocate resources more effectively to retain and attract students. The idea is that with the introduction of vouchers, public schools would have a direct incentive to improve their performance and be more responsive to students' and parents' needs.

Moreover, the argument that vouchers strip funding from public schools might not hold in this context. If a student opts for a voucher, the money that would have been spent on their education in the public system is what's allocated for the voucher, meaning it's a reallocation rather than a deduction from the existing school budget. This model of funding follows the student and could potentially lead to a more efficient use of resources in the public school system.

In conclusion, while FCPS faces challenges in terms of capacity and resource allocation, the introduction of school vouchers could potentially bring a competitive element that drives improvements and efficiency in the public school system. This competition could lead to better resource management and a higher quality of education, benefiting all students in the long run.


Blah blah blah. AI-generated, BS voucher talking points.

Nope. Republicans can pay for private school themselves. Taxpayers aren't going to subsidize them.
Hey, let's keep things civil and focus on the actual issue. The debate about school vouchers isn't just "AI-generated, BS talking points." It's a real discussion with valid points on both sides.

School vouchers aren't about subsidizing private education for just one group, like Republicans. They're about giving more choice to all parents, regardless of their political beliefs. The idea is to give families, especially those who can't afford private schools, more options for their kids' education.

Also, vouchers don't necessarily mean taxpayers are just funding private schools. They're about reallocating existing funds to follow the student, which can actually push public schools to step up their game. It's not about taking away from public schools but making them better through healthy competition.

So, let's stick to the facts and have a productive conversation. There's no need for dismissing the other side or making this about one political group. It's about figuring out what's best for all students.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been in fcps for 16 years and this is the first time it has been impossible to find an fcps employee who is the designated point of contact. Its unbelievable how much they are willing to spend to protecr Gatehouse staff from having to interact with parents on this. I agree with pp, there is zero point to the experian 1-800 number. They have no information.


Fcps has no reason to be accountable as they are funded generously without oversight. If they are held accountable by a competitive alternative like vouchers they would get their act together.


That’s not how any of that works.

Sorry. Taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize your kids’ private school.


FCPS, like many large school districts, faces challenges in managing its budget and resources effectively. For instance, there have been concerns about capacity issues in schools, with some like Centreville High School operating at 130% of their capacity, and plans for renovation not scheduled until 2025. Such capacity issues are significant and demonstrate the challenges faced by the district in meeting the needs of its students effectively​​.

In terms of budget, FCPS's Fiscal Year 2024 budget focused on student achievement and teacher recruitment, indicating an awareness of the need to invest in key areas for improving education quality​​​​. However, the large budget and the challenges in capacity and resource allocation could be seen as an indicator of inefficiencies or mismanagement of funds.

Introducing school vouchers in this context could be argued as a means to foster accountability and competition. When public schools like FCPS face competition from private schools, they might be more inclined to address inefficiencies and allocate resources more effectively to retain and attract students. The idea is that with the introduction of vouchers, public schools would have a direct incentive to improve their performance and be more responsive to students' and parents' needs.

Moreover, the argument that vouchers strip funding from public schools might not hold in this context. If a student opts for a voucher, the money that would have been spent on their education in the public system is what's allocated for the voucher, meaning it's a reallocation rather than a deduction from the existing school budget. This model of funding follows the student and could potentially lead to a more efficient use of resources in the public school system.

In conclusion, while FCPS faces challenges in terms of capacity and resource allocation, the introduction of school vouchers could potentially bring a competitive element that drives improvements and efficiency in the public school system. This competition could lead to better resource management and a higher quality of education, benefiting all students in the long run.


Blah blah blah. AI-generated, BS voucher talking points.

Nope. Republicans can pay for private school themselves. Taxpayers aren't going to subsidize them.
Hey, let's keep things civil and focus on the actual issue. The debate about school vouchers isn't just "AI-generated, BS talking points." It's a real discussion with valid points on both sides.

School vouchers aren't about subsidizing private education for just one group, like Republicans. They're about giving more choice to all parents, regardless of their political beliefs. The idea is to give families, especially those who can't afford private schools, more options for their kids' education.

Also, vouchers don't necessarily mean taxpayers are just funding private schools. They're about reallocating existing funds to follow the student, which can actually push public schools to step up their game. It's not about taking away from public schools but making them better through healthy competition.

So, let's stick to the facts and have a productive conversation. There's no need for dismissing the other side or making this about one political group. It's about figuring out what's best for all students.


If you'd like to have a debate about school vouchers, feel free to do so....in another thread. This thread is for parents trying to figure out what info FCPS gave out about our kids.
Anonymous
Is Callie pro-voucher? Is that why she is attacking FCPS relentlessly? Is that the advice from her RWNJ buddies at the think tank?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been in fcps for 16 years and this is the first time it has been impossible to find an fcps employee who is the designated point of contact. Its unbelievable how much they are willing to spend to protecr Gatehouse staff from having to interact with parents on this. I agree with pp, there is zero point to the experian 1-800 number. They have no information.


Fcps has no reason to be accountable as they are funded generously without oversight. If they are held accountable by a competitive alternative like vouchers they would get their act together.


That’s not how any of that works.

Sorry. Taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize your kids’ private school.


FCPS, like many large school districts, faces challenges in managing its budget and resources effectively. For instance, there have been concerns about capacity issues in schools, with some like Centreville High School operating at 130% of their capacity, and plans for renovation not scheduled until 2025. Such capacity issues are significant and demonstrate the challenges faced by the district in meeting the needs of its students effectively​​.

In terms of budget, FCPS's Fiscal Year 2024 budget focused on student achievement and teacher recruitment, indicating an awareness of the need to invest in key areas for improving education quality​​​​. However, the large budget and the challenges in capacity and resource allocation could be seen as an indicator of inefficiencies or mismanagement of funds.

Introducing school vouchers in this context could be argued as a means to foster accountability and competition. When public schools like FCPS face competition from private schools, they might be more inclined to address inefficiencies and allocate resources more effectively to retain and attract students. The idea is that with the introduction of vouchers, public schools would have a direct incentive to improve their performance and be more responsive to students' and parents' needs.

Moreover, the argument that vouchers strip funding from public schools might not hold in this context. If a student opts for a voucher, the money that would have been spent on their education in the public system is what's allocated for the voucher, meaning it's a reallocation rather than a deduction from the existing school budget. This model of funding follows the student and could potentially lead to a more efficient use of resources in the public school system.

In conclusion, while FCPS faces challenges in terms of capacity and resource allocation, the introduction of school vouchers could potentially bring a competitive element that drives improvements and efficiency in the public school system. This competition could lead to better resource management and a higher quality of education, benefiting all students in the long run.


Blah blah blah. AI-generated, BS voucher talking points.

Nope. Republicans can pay for private school themselves. Taxpayers aren't going to subsidize them.
Hey, let's keep things civil and focus on the actual issue. The debate about school vouchers isn't just "AI-generated, BS talking points." It's a real discussion with valid points on both sides.

School vouchers aren't about subsidizing private education for just one group, like Republicans. They're about giving more choice to all parents, regardless of their political beliefs. The idea is to give families, especially those who can't afford private schools, more options for their kids' education.

Also, vouchers don't necessarily mean taxpayers are just funding private schools. They're about reallocating existing funds to follow the student, which can actually push public schools to step up their game. It's not about taking away from public schools but making them better through healthy competition.

So, let's stick to the facts and have a productive conversation. There's no need for dismissing the other side or making this about one political group. It's about figuring out what's best for all students.


More AI-regurgitated GOP talking points.

Vouchers only help a small portion of kids. In fact, they will hurt SN kids the most.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think people would be surprised to find out how little FCPS spends per non-IEP, non-ESOL, non-FARMs pupil. You aren't going to get much out of a $3000 voucher.

1. Overall Budget and Average Spending:
- Average cost per student in FCPS: $19,795.
- Total students in FCPS: 181,000.

2. Special Education Costs:
- Number of special education students: 28,251.
- Average cost for special education per service: $18,421.
- Total cost for special education: 28,251 students x $18,421 per student = $520,564,171.

3. Total Budget for All Students:
- Total budget: 181,000 students x $19,795 per student = $3,582,795,000.

4. Calculating Remaining Budget for Non-Special Education Students:
- Remaining budget after special education costs: $3,582,795,000 (total budget) - $520,564,171 (special ed cost) = $3,062,230,829.

5. Number of Non-Special Education Students:
- Non-special education students: 181,000 (total students) - 28,251 (special ed students) = 152,749 students.

6. Average Spending Per Non-Special Education Student:
- Average spending for non-special education students: $3,062,230,829 / 152,749 students = $20,049 approximately.

7. Consideration for ESOL and FARMs:
- ESOL and FARMs students receive additional federal and state funding. This calculation does not specifically deduct their costs from the total budget but assumes that the total budget includes these funds.

8. Voucher Value Based on Calculation:
- To match the actual expenditure of FCPS on a typical student (excluding special education, ESOL, and FARMs students), a voucher system would ideally offer a value of approximately $20,049. This amount aligns with the average spending per non-special education student and would offer a realistic alternative to public education, ensuring comparable funding for students opting for private education through vouchers.

This voucher value of $20,049 would ensure that the voucher system accurately reflects the financial commitment required to provide a comprehensive education, similar to what is available in the public school system.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been in fcps for 16 years and this is the first time it has been impossible to find an fcps employee who is the designated point of contact. Its unbelievable how much they are willing to spend to protecr Gatehouse staff from having to interact with parents on this. I agree with pp, there is zero point to the experian 1-800 number. They have no information.


Fcps has no reason to be accountable as they are funded generously without oversight. If they are held accountable by a competitive alternative like vouchers they would get their act together.


That’s not how any of that works.

Sorry. Taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize your kids’ private school.


That’s literally how the school voucher program works. Lol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people would be surprised to find out how little FCPS spends per non-IEP, non-ESOL, non-FARMs pupil. You aren't going to get much out of a $3000 voucher.

1. Overall Budget and Average Spending:
- Average cost per student in FCPS: $19,795.
- Total students in FCPS: 181,000.

2. Special Education Costs:
- Number of special education students: 28,251.
- Average cost for special education per service: $18,421.
- Total cost for special education: 28,251 students x $18,421 per student = $520,564,171.

3. Total Budget for All Students:
- Total budget: 181,000 students x $19,795 per student = $3,582,795,000.

4. Calculating Remaining Budget for Non-Special Education Students:
- Remaining budget after special education costs: $3,582,795,000 (total budget) - $520,564,171 (special ed cost) = $3,062,230,829.

5. Number of Non-Special Education Students:
- Non-special education students: 181,000 (total students) - 28,251 (special ed students) = 152,749 students.

6. Average Spending Per Non-Special Education Student:
- Average spending for non-special education students: $3,062,230,829 / 152,749 students = $20,049 approximately.

7. Consideration for ESOL and FARMs:
- ESOL and FARMs students receive additional federal and state funding. This calculation does not specifically deduct their costs from the total budget but assumes that the total budget includes these funds.

8. Voucher Value Based on Calculation:
- To match the actual expenditure of FCPS on a typical student (excluding special education, ESOL, and FARMs students), a voucher system would ideally offer a value of approximately $20,049. This amount aligns with the average spending per non-special education student and would offer a realistic alternative to public education, ensuring comparable funding for students opting for private education through vouchers.

This voucher value of $20,049 would ensure that the voucher system accurately reflects the financial commitment required to provide a comprehensive education, similar to what is available in the public school system.


$20k from where? VA isn’t going to provide a voucher that size.
Anonymous
No way does FCPS spend 20k on regular students. Absolutely no way.
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