Why no honors for French 5?

[Anonymous]

I was looking through DC's school's course bulletin and see honors offerings for French 1-4 but not for 5. What is the reasoning for this?

[Anonymous]

I think because it is an AP course.

[Anonymous]

But in our course catalog it shows the sequence as French 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and then AP and the list of pre-requisites for AP is French 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think because it is an AP course.

It is not an AP course, its an interim course between French 4 and AP French. It is MCPS's way of stretching it out.
In the rest of the country it is French 1,2,3 and AP and you're done.

[Anonymous]

It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

Nope.

It's true. See "Weighted grade points" section on page 2:

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/ikcra.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But in our course catalog it shows the sequence as French 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and then AP and the list of pre-requisites for AP is French 5.

Really? You have to take French 5 before AP?
At my district you can take AP after French 4 (and with permission after French 3)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

This is true for French 5 and Spanish 5 at Whitman. However, I think it looks like you dropped a level on the transcript, as how many college admissions officers know that is the kooky way mcps structures the level 5 class (why not just make it honors??).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

This is true for French 5 and Spanish 5 at Whitman. However, I think it looks like you dropped a level on the transcript, as how many college admissions officers know that is the kooky way mcps structures the level 5 class (why not just make it honors??).

They send the school profile with the transcript, which explains the codes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14sOsVl4MwmB09ntzADDk1yb4i_2BjcEj/view

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

Nope.

While it is not labeled as "honors," it is indeed labeled as "Advanced Level": https://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/CourseDetails/Index/WLG2045A.

Some teachers may recommend to (or some kids might want to) skip French 5 and go straight to AP French. Possible scenarios are if you're coming into high school from a French immersion background or if you've done well in middle school French 3, etc. But, some kids might want to go slower and insert the French 5 into their French track, depending on their other classes. I'm glad French 5 is an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

This is true for French 5 and Spanish 5 at Whitman. However, I think it looks like you dropped a level on the transcript, as how many college admissions officers know that is the kooky way mcps structures the level 5 class (why not just make it honors??).

They send the school profile with the transcript, which explains the codes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14sOsVl4MwmB09ntzADDk1yb4i_2BjcEj/view

I know they do. Do you really think AOs with the tens of thousands of apps they need to review look to that level of detail? And even if they did, they’d only see that French 5 is advanced, not specifically that French 5 honors is not offerred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

This is true for French 5 and Spanish 5 at Whitman. However, I think it looks like you dropped a level on the transcript, as how many college admissions officers know that is the kooky way mcps structures the level 5 class (why not just make it honors??).

They send the school profile with the transcript, which explains the codes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14sOsVl4MwmB09ntzADDk1yb4i_2BjcEj/view

I know they do. Do you really think AOs with the tens of thousands of apps they need to review look to that level of detail? And even if they did, they’d only see that French 5 is advanced, not specifically that French 5 honors is not offerred.

It is the same for Spanish 5 (no "honors" designation)?? Weird.

[Anonymous]

At BCC it has honors in parentheses. French 5A/3B (Honors). Same with Spanish and Chinese.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1556jHAFThI9iv1Ob8pNa2UTmklQUkYa-VqOinsaNdyY/edit#gid=1912123422

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not labeled as Honors, but it is Advanced Level, which has the same weight as Honors/AP in the weighted GPA.

This is true for French 5 and Spanish 5 at Whitman. However, I think it looks like you dropped a level on the transcript, as how many college admissions officers know that is the kooky way mcps structures the level 5 class (why not just make it honors??).

They send the school profile with the transcript, which explains the codes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14sOsVl4MwmB09ntzADDk1yb4i_2BjcEj/view

I know they do. Do you really think AOs with the tens of thousands of apps they need to review look to that level of detail? And even if they did, they’d only see that French 5 is advanced, not specifically that French 5 honors is not offerred.

I'm not sure it matters if you end up taking AP French (for precisely the reason you point out; AOs have just enough time to see that you took it up to the AP level).