What is AAP really?
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Anonymous
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DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling. Which is it? |
Anonymous
| Another DCUM gem: AAP is bad for lower SES kids but gen ed is not bad for higher SES kids. Why? Because higher SES kids are smart because of their parents, not because of the school, curriculum, or peers. They'll do fine anywhere. Lower SES kids are screwed because of their school environment and peers, not because of their parents. They'll be screwed unless the higher SES kids are forced to come back (which of course won't happen). |
Anonymous
Everyone's experiences and expectations are different, so all of them, or none of them depending on who you're talking to? It's a have vs have-not situation. I'd rather be in the "have" category. My DC is in AAP, probably on the lower end of the skills (reading/writing at least) - definitely not gifted. I'd rather DC get the teacher focus rather than being the role model in the Gen Ed courses where they're teaching remedial math and reading. In 2nd grade, I was the sole teacher of math, as the school just had them doing hours and hours of ST-Math, and basic addition. This year, I'm spending less time at home because they're actually learning things from the teacher, who's receptive to 3 digit multiplication in the classroom, and division problems. Again - this is personal experiences and everyone will have their own, as education is largely dependent on 2 primary factors - teacher quality and parental influence. |
Anonymous
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Our experience in a well-off pyramid that does NOT send many kids to TJ (Lake Braddock/Robinson).
It's advanced math. A bit more depth in language arts (I wish Caesar's English was required across the county, I think my other kid in an immersion program would have enjoyed it). From my perspective, it seems to draw very, very good and very, very terrible teachers, but I haven't seen just average teachers in my child's program. The excellent teachers are drawn to the opportunity to expand and teach extensions and teach curious kids (even kids with weird gaps in skills but are nonetheless in level IV). The terrible teachers hide out in AAP because the kids inevitably will do well on testing and admin at the school seems content with the status quo. These teachers do a lot of drill and kill worksheets (the endless coloring self-grading math sheets were particularly annoying because how much time is spent "coloring" when the kids should be learning or reflecting on what they don't know). You will see A LOT of families focus on teaching their kids at home. Math for example is something many of the families just take on and teach on their own, either by tutoring or using a service like Kumon/Russian Math, or just teaching themselves. Parents in our center were really nice and open about all of this, which I thought was very, very cool considering how much people like to keep this sort of stuff on the down low around here. I was a teacher in high school for years (I work in industry now), but it's a good program for some kids. I WOULD NOT recommend our school/center for a kid with learning issues, even ADHD because they just don't care and don't do a good job of scaffolding or differentiating instruction for these types of learners (talking to parents of kids who have these issues they all seem incredibly frustrated). Oddly, I found the immersion program to be excellent at SPED. Again, this is just one person's opinion and YMMV of course. But for the sake of sharing and transparency, I thought I'd offer this insight. |
Anonymous
PP here. Oddly, I agree with this. Talking to families in our community, which is pretty well off and education, the consensus is that the kids do just fine regardless of where they began and a lot of kids in 7-12 seem to just blossom at the upper grades in a way they didn't in elementary. I do think having taught in a title I high school that AAP seems to make a big difference. Kids seems way more set in stone at such a younger age. I didn't see kids move from gen ed to honors in the way that happens in my home community it seems. |
Anonymous
Do you post this same thing every week? I swear you've posted this at least twice already. Get a life. |
Anonymous
1 and 3 are both true. No one says 2. |
Anonymous
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright (Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade. |
Anonymous
| It's definitely advanced math. |
Anonymous
If you are in a school with only high SES children, then a lot of people say #2. The only difference in this case is advanced method and maybe some additional writing work. |
Anonymous
Why are you so prickly? Struck a nerve? |
Anonymous
| Allowing your child to participate in AAP is definitely MAGA. |
Anonymous
This is “spit out my coffee” funnny at how UNtrue it is! |
Anonymous
| As someone new, it's crazy how there were 1-3 useful, thoughtful responses and the rest are all name calling juvenile nonsense. |
Anonymous
But I thought you can do the same advanced math without being in AAP? |