Gaza War, Part 3

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


So that somehow makes it OK for Palestinians to rape and murder with impunity?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


So that somehow makes it OK for Palestinians to rape and murder with impunity?


"Do unto others..."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."




Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


So that somehow makes it OK for Palestinians to rape and murder with impunity?


"Do unto others..."


Well that's the same mindset the Israelis have. That is why they are stuck in this cycle. If neither can budge from that position, there is really no hope. With the US now energy independent and new non fossil fuel energy sources coming on line, maybe it's time we disengage from the region?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."




Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


So that somehow makes it OK for Palestinians to rape and murder with impunity?


"Do unto others..."


Well that's the same mindset the Israelis have. That is why they are stuck in this cycle. If neither can budge from that position, there is really no hope. With the US now energy independent and new non fossil fuel energy sources coming on line, maybe it's time we disengage from the region?


That would be fine by me. I'm sick of Israel's attitude of "If you don't give us weapons to commit genocide, then you're antisemitic!"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


Your narrative is false and terrorists you are championing celebrate blood and death rather than life.

This won't end until the Palestinians want their children to live and prosper more than they want to violently drive out the Jews (and eat our skulls, apparently: https://unwatch.org/amnesty-international-poster-girl-ahed-tamimi-is-hitler-loving-antisemite/).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


Your narrative is false and terrorists you are championing celebrate blood and death rather than life.

This won't end until the Palestinians want their children to live and prosper more than they want to violently drive out the Jews (and eat our skulls, apparently: https://unwatch.org/amnesty-international-poster-girl-ahed-tamimi-is-hitler-loving-antisemite/).


The Zionist-Industrial-Propaganda-Complex is going strong, I see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


Your narrative is false and terrorists you are championing celebrate blood and death rather than life.

This won't end until the Palestinians want their children to live and prosper more than they want to violently drive out the Jews (and eat our skulls, apparently: https://unwatch.org/amnesty-international-poster-girl-ahed-tamimi-is-hitler-loving-antisemite/).


The Zionist-Industrial-Propaganda-Complex is going strong, I see.


Any substance or just insults rooted in stereotypes?
Anonymous
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This is the party that may win the White House? We are screwed
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are some people on this thread who believe that Israel can do no wrong in this war so long as Hamas militants exist. They believe that Israel is exculpable from any behavior, no matter how abhorrent, so long as the behavior is done with the intent of eradicating Hamas. They can starve children to death, blow up thousands and thousands of children, bomb hospitals and mosques, etc., etc., that under any other circumstance with any other country would be considered a war crime.


I don’t think that at all. But if Hamas is just going to regroup and do another 10/7, what is Israel supposed to do?


Why is it so hard to stop a bunch of fat slobs on motorcycles?


Iron Dome allowed fat slobs in hang gliders to just float into Israeli airspace?


I have no doubts Netanyahu put stand down orders to the military and he wanted 10/7.

The entire summer 2023 Israel was mass demonstrating against him. The entire summer 2023 Gazans were also mass demonstrating Hamas.

What are the chances Hamas who has never done a ground assault to Israel before because they know the consequences would do the first one last year right after mass unpopularity and calls for Hamas and Netanyahu to step down ? I’m not a believer in coincidences. This was planned by both in hopes war would muster support for them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


Israel continues to de-home Palestinians and encroach on their territory. Because Palestinian lives just don't matter to them. Why should they accept that?


Well on the other hand, Israeli lives matter so much to Palestinians because their families receive a bounty for each Jew they kill. Even the Palestinian Authority, not only Hamas, maintains this "pay for slay" policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/palestinian-pay-for-slay-hamas-oct-7-israel-gaza-antony-blinken-ramallah-2dce9a22

"Palestinian ‘Pay for Slay’ Keeps Growing
Blinken touts reform while the PA adds more terrorists to the payroll."


Why is that? Because Israel stole their land, raped, and murdered them with impunity.


Your narrative is false and terrorists you are championing celebrate blood and death rather than life.

This won't end until the Palestinians want their children to live and prosper more than they want to violently drive out the Jews (and eat our skulls, apparently: https://unwatch.org/amnesty-international-poster-girl-ahed-tamimi-is-hitler-loving-antisemite/).


The Zionist-Industrial-Propaganda-Complex is going strong, I see.


Any substance or just insults rooted in stereotypes?


Sure, here’s some substance for you: the “love their children more than” lie is part of the same lazy batch of propagandized lies that also gave us the “land without a people” lie. It’s exhausting keeping track of your lies, but becoming less so every day as more and more people realize that pathological lying is a feature with Zionists, not a bug.

Zionism gave birth to modern day terrorism, and they seemingly cannot coexist peacefully with ANYONE.

Why is that?
Anonymous
Netanyahu was facing jail before 10/7 and Hamas was not popular at all pre 10/7 with the majority of Gazans saying they would work in Israel rather than work for Hamas
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are some people on this thread who believe that Israel can do no wrong in this war so long as Hamas militants exist. They believe that Israel is exculpable from any behavior, no matter how abhorrent, so long as the behavior is done with the intent of eradicating Hamas. They can starve children to death, blow up thousands and thousands of children, bomb hospitals and mosques, etc., etc., that under any other circumstance with any other country would be considered a war crime.


I don’t think that at all. But if Hamas is just going to regroup and do another 10/7, what is Israel supposed to do?


Why is it so hard to stop a bunch of fat slobs on motorcycles?


Iron Dome allowed fat slobs in hang gliders to just float into Israeli airspace?


I have no doubts Netanyahu put stand down orders to the military and he wanted 10/7.

The entire summer 2023 Israel was mass demonstrating against him. The entire summer 2023 Gazans were also mass demonstrating Hamas.

What are the chances Hamas who has never done a ground assault to Israel before because they know the consequences would do the first one last year right after mass unpopularity and calls for Hamas and Netanyahu to step down ? I’m not a believer in coincidences. This was planned by both in hopes war would muster support for them


Not outside the realm of possibility, considering Israel already knew Hamas had plans for a 10/7 event. And Israel has been arresting the hostages' family members.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I posted a link up thread to a video of a journalist talking to a former Palestinian politician and writer for an hour. The summary is that the Palestinians just need to move on and accept Israel. The challenge that the video didn’t address is the conditions that Palestinian live under and how this results in anger and stress that produces Hamas. Maybe the Israelis just don’t see this?

I agree Palestinians need to accept they are not moving back to their ancestral homes and Israel is a country. But israelis need to acknowledge that they’ve harmed the Palestinian so that they make changes to stop doing so.


They won’t move on. Part of the problem is Palestinians have the same pathology and DNA as Jews. Both stubborn and can’t move on or forgive. Not to compare but I have to compare: do Jews ever wonder by Bedouins in Israel are easy to deal with? It’s because they have a history of being nomadic.

Jews and Palestinians are people that don’t know how to make a deal. They want the land without any oil when the entire region is full of oil.
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