3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

4) Why do criminals from Mexican cartels turn to US red states for straw purchases to source their guns?

Because it's easier to get guns from the US than to buy them legally in Mexico. Also, the US is the #1 gun exporter in the world.

Wrong.

The Mexican cartels get guns from Central America, left over from the many wars there.

BTW, Mexico already has extremely tough gun control laws.

Gun control doesn’t work, obviously.

Mexico also has extremely tough laws about immigration and yet people cross the border there illegally all the time, so immigration laws must not work. Let’s not bother to control immigration either. Open borders and guns for all!

Sure, let's get rid of laws, right?!?!?! They don't work ever!

I mean, they surely don't work in the blue states because the criminals in blue state cities can buy their guns so easily in those blue states right? They don't have to source them from straw purchases in red states, right?

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Let me help you. Immigration laws don't work if they aren't enforced. That would be the same with gun laws.

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

And why are criminals in blue cities in blue states sourcing guns from red states?

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

4) Why do criminals from Mexican cartels turn to US red states for straw purchases to source their guns?

Because it's easier to get guns from the US than to buy them legally in Mexico. Also, the US is the #1 gun exporter in the world.

Wrong.

The Mexican cartels get guns from Central America, left over from the many wars there.

BTW, Mexico already has extremely tough gun control laws.

Gun control doesn’t work, obviously.

Mexico also has extremely tough laws about immigration and yet people cross the border there illegally all the time, so immigration laws must not work. Let’s not bother to control immigration either. Open borders and guns for all!

Sure, let's get rid of laws, right?!?!?! They don't work ever!

I mean, they surely don't work in the blue states because the criminals in blue state cities can buy their guns so easily in those blue states right? They don't have to source them from straw purchases in red states, right?

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Let me help you. Immigration laws don't work if they aren't enforced. That would be the same with gun laws.

Great well can red states enforce laws more effectively to reduce their significant problems with straw purchased and gun trafficking? Cause they really f*ing suck at it

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

4) Why do criminals from Mexican cartels turn to US red states for straw purchases to source their guns?

Because it's easier to get guns from the US than to buy them legally in Mexico. Also, the US is the #1 gun exporter in the world.

Wrong.

The Mexican cartels get guns from Central America, left over from the many wars there.

BTW, Mexico already has extremely tough gun control laws.

Gun control doesn’t work, obviously.

Mexico also has extremely tough laws about immigration and yet people cross the border there illegally all the time, so immigration laws must not work. Let’s not bother to control immigration either. Open borders and guns for all!

Sure, let's get rid of laws, right?!?!?! They don't work ever!

I mean, they surely don't work in the blue states because the criminals in blue state cities can buy their guns so easily in those blue states right? They don't have to source them from straw purchases in red states, right?

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Let me help you. Immigration laws don't work if they aren't enforced. That would be the same with gun laws.

Great well can red states enforce laws more effectively to reduce their significant problems with straw purchased and gun trafficking? Cause they really f*ing suck at it

DP and clearly basic existing additional layers of gun legislature in blue states is doing something if their criminals can't source their guns locally and bring them in from red states.

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

I took a lot of them actually. I meant communities in red states vs communities in blue states. I assume by "communities" you mean urban cities. So?

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

I took a lot of them actually. I meant communities in red states vs communities in blue states. I assume by "communities" you mean urban cities. So?

PS still waiting for an answer on why chicago criminals source their guns from far away? Same for other blue states? Anyone? Crickets?

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

4) Why do criminals from Mexican cartels turn to US red states for straw purchases to source their guns?

Because it's easier to get guns from the US than to buy them legally in Mexico. Also, the US is the #1 gun exporter in the world.

Wrong.

The Mexican cartels get guns from Central America, left over from the many wars there.

BTW, Mexico already has extremely tough gun control laws.

Gun control doesn’t work, obviously.

Mexico also has extremely tough laws about immigration and yet people cross the border there illegally all the time, so immigration laws must not work. Let’s not bother to control immigration either. Open borders and guns for all!

Sure, let's get rid of laws, right?!?!?! They don't work ever!

I mean, they surely don't work in the blue states because the criminals in blue state cities can buy their guns so easily in those blue states right? They don't have to source them from straw purchases in red states, right?

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Let me help you. Immigration laws don't work if they aren't enforced. That would be the same with gun laws.

Exactly. Which is why it’s silly to point to Mexico as some example in the failure of gun laws. It’s not exactly like they have a functioning government doing anything to curtail gun crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

I took a lot of them actually. I meant communities in red states vs communities in blue states. I assume by "communities" you mean urban cities. So?

PS still waiting for an answer on why chicago criminals source their guns from far away? Same for other blue states? Anyone? Crickets?

They get half in illinois

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

4) Why do criminals from Mexican cartels turn to US red states for straw purchases to source their guns?

Because it's easier to get guns from the US than to buy them legally in Mexico. Also, the US is the #1 gun exporter in the world.

Wrong.

The Mexican cartels get guns from Central America, left over from the many wars there.

BTW, Mexico already has extremely tough gun control laws.

Gun control doesn’t work, obviously.

Mexico also has extremely tough laws about immigration and yet people cross the border there illegally all the time, so immigration laws must not work. Let’s not bother to control immigration either. Open borders and guns for all!

Sure, let's get rid of laws, right?!?!?! They don't work ever!

I mean, they surely don't work in the blue states because the criminals in blue state cities can buy their guns so easily in those blue states right? They don't have to source them from straw purchases in red states, right?

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, I was being sarcastic about immigration. It was apparently a failed attempt to point out the hypocrisy is claiming Mexico is a good example of why gun laws don’t work because you know the right would never argue that immigration laws don’t work.

Let me help you. Immigration laws don't work if they aren't enforced. That would be the same with gun laws.

Exactly. Which is why it’s silly to point to Mexico as some example in the failure of gun laws. It’s not exactly like they have a functioning government doing anything to curtail gun crimes.

I'm not pointing to Mexico so much as red states' lax gun laws contributing to Mexico crime as well as domestic US crime in blue states because that's where most guns are sourced from when traced in blue city crime - they come from red states with lax gun laws who do sh*tty jobs to curtail straw purchases and gun trafficking and so are liable in contributing to arming criminals who are far away from those states.

So getting back to the issue, let's focus on blue cities in blue states, why the criminals in those cities source their guns from red states per gun tracing studies?

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

I took a lot of them actually. I meant communities in red states vs communities in blue states. I assume by "communities" you mean urban cities. So?

PS still waiting for an answer on why chicago criminals source their guns from far away? Same for other blue states? Anyone? Crickets?

They get half in illinois

And half not because they can't and because red states are totally sh*tty at straw purchase control.

At any rate, are you a parent? What is your research based suggestion for curtailing gun crime or you are just cool with babies being slaughtered and red states supplying criminals everywhere with guns?

-Mother of two elementary school children
-Good friend personally knew family/child involved in Sandy Hook
-Family and friend of teachers and law enforcement
-Close family member happened to not be at Buffalo grocery store the day of that shooting
-Live in city where I have heard gunshots from my house on multiple occasions
-Work in healthcare so know all to clearly the difference between handgun wounds and rifle wounds and what they can do to a person's body
-Work in healthcare where I spent a half hour under a desk during an active shooter scare (And we have had people pull guns in our ER and did have an actual shooting that killed a healthcare worker years ago)

I say all of this repeatedly because the only responses I get from people on the right are sarcasm, bluster, stalling, deflecting and pretending it's no big deal. Generic platitudes of "enforce existing laws" and "loss of family values." Blah blah blah.

This is personal, it's real, and my anger isn't generated from reading left wing news so much as personal experience.

What are your solutions? Anything other than generic platitudes and sarcasm?

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale-s-manifesto-to-be-released-official/ar-AA19f7c5

Like a lot of people, I'll read it out of general interest, but it's not going to change the fact that it was written by a disturbed person with guns who wanted to get famous and commit suicide by cop. I mean, does it really matter what reasons these killers give for why they kill? They all have some kind of grievances, real or imagined, and they are clearly intent on dying and taking others with them in a very newsworthy fashion. The only mass killer in recent history whose motives I'd like to know is the Las Vegas shooter. He killed 60 people and wounded 100s of others and nobody knows why.

+1 doesn't matter any more than the Buffalo grocery racist shooter nor the congressional baseball game shooter. It's all just a reason to deflect from...

What can we do to decrease gun deaths? Also nobody is daying eliminate. Reduce. Gunshot wounds are the number one cause of death in the US and tje GOP is deflecting with legislation about trans kids and books. GUNS ARE THE ACTUAL DANGER.

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The people behind the gun pulling the trigger are the actual danger. Guns do not shoot themselves.

When a gun is used to hurt or kill innocent people it is being used by a criminal or an extremely mentally ill person. These are the people who should not have access to firearms.

do tell how you're going to keep guns away from the mentally ill, some not even diagnosed yet.

How about starting with a database of who owns guns and mental healthcare workers could report people to police who shouldn’t have guns. A red flag system. If there is a gun registered to the home the police can go investigate.

Which Republicans are proposing this?

Still waiting.

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

I took a lot of them actually. I meant communities in red states vs communities in blue states. I assume by "communities" you mean urban cities. So?

PS still waiting for an answer on why chicago criminals source their guns from far away? Same for other blue states? Anyone? Crickets?

They get half in illinois

And half not because they can't and because red states are totally sh*tty at straw purchase control.

At any rate, are you a parent? What is your research based suggestion for curtailing gun crime or you are just cool with babies being slaughtered and red states supplying criminals everywhere with guns?

-Mother of two elementary school children
-Good friend personally knew family/child involved in Sandy Hook
-Family and friend of teachers and law enforcement
-Close family member happened to not be at Buffalo grocery store the day of that shooting
-Live in city where I have heard gunshots from my house on multiple occasions
-Work in healthcare so know all to clearly the difference between handgun wounds and rifle wounds and what they can do to a person's body
-Work in healthcare where I spent a half hour under a desk during an active shooter scare (And we have had people pull guns in our ER and did have an actual shooting that killed a healthcare worker years ago)

I say all of this repeatedly because the only responses I get from people on the right are sarcasm, bluster, stalling, deflecting and pretending it's no big deal. Generic platitudes of "enforce existing laws" and "loss of family values." Blah blah blah.

This is personal, it's real, and my anger isn't generated from reading left wing news so much as personal experience.

What are your solutions? Anything other than generic platitudes and sarcasm?

I'm not cool with the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th ammendments being violated as that is what it would take to solve the problem.

I grew up in a Communist country and have no desire to give up those freedoms. A place where due process does not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:People complaining about restrictions on rights. Really should go into an airplane and yell bomb or into a government building and yell fire and see what happens when you say it was your Right to freedom of speech....... Your freedoms can't Trump public safety?

I hear you, but we did just live through COVID and saw what one party thought of measure to protect others....

What, masks and shots and this is the same as letting criminals and mass shooters have guns to slaughter children with to the point that they can't be recognized other than bits of clothing and DNA? Sorry, no, get over it, GOP is the party of child killer enablers with gun deaths the #1 cause of pediatric deaths in the USA.

Not giving up the 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th amendments for this.

Please answer directly:

1) Why are mass shootings statistically more likely in (red) states with less restrictive gun laws and trending up in those states? (yes, anecdotally, mass shootings can happen anywhere, but they are statistically less likely in blue states with current gun legislation)
2) Why do criminals from democratic run cities source guns from straw purchases in red states (per gun tracing studies)?
3) If both of the above are true, why will you not conclude that sensible gun legislation already actually works, even without any repeal of 2a?

Check out where those mass shootings occur within red states. They occur in largely blue cities in certain communities. They tend not to occur as much in rural areas.

Data? blue states have cities too. So why are cities in red states worse than cities in blue states for mass shooting types of occurrances?

Also remind me why criminals in chicago need to source their guns from red states? Want to keep deflecting?

I'm taking it you haven't read the gun violence project.

Most mass shootings are concentrated among certain communities and aren't reported beyond the local area.

And why are communities in red states per capita more likely to have mass shooting than blue states?

Someone obviously didn't take stats class.

I took a lot of them actually. I meant communities in red states vs communities in blue states. I assume by "communities" you mean urban cities. So?

PS still waiting for an answer on why chicago criminals source their guns from far away? Same for other blue states? Anyone? Crickets?

They get half in illinois

And half not because they can't and because red states are totally sh*tty at straw purchase control.

At any rate, are you a parent? What is your research based suggestion for curtailing gun crime or you are just cool with babies being slaughtered and red states supplying criminals everywhere with guns?

-Mother of two elementary school children
-Good friend personally knew family/child involved in Sandy Hook
-Family and friend of teachers and law enforcement
-Close family member happened to not be at Buffalo grocery store the day of that shooting
-Live in city where I have heard gunshots from my house on multiple occasions
-Work in healthcare so know all to clearly the difference between handgun wounds and rifle wounds and what they can do to a person's body
-Work in healthcare where I spent a half hour under a desk during an active shooter scare (And we have had people pull guns in our ER and did have an actual shooting that killed a healthcare worker years ago)

I say all of this repeatedly because the only responses I get from people on the right are sarcasm, bluster, stalling, deflecting and pretending it's no big deal. Generic platitudes of "enforce existing laws" and "loss of family values." Blah blah blah.

This is personal, it's real, and my anger isn't generated from reading left wing news so much as personal experience.

What are your solutions? Anything other than generic platitudes and sarcasm?

I'm not cool with the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th ammendments being violated as that is what it would take to solve the problem.

I grew up in a Communist country and have no desire to give up those freedoms. A place where due process does not exist.

Oh, you're that person. I know you from the other thread. I literally have posted repeated responses to you, and pointed out that blue states already have constitutionally allowed measures in place that work and they aren't communist places. Others pointed out that other non-communist countries have sensible gun legislation. After all of that, I don't have much to say to you, so that's that. If anyone new wants to respond from the right sided POV, by all means, have at it.