Princeton class of 2027

[Anonymous]

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/09/06/class-2027-arrives-midst-four-year-undergraduate-expansion

2/3 are receiving financial aid (70k on average)

Almost a quarter are Pell Grant recipients (basically poverty line)

It’s nice that Princeton is spending its insane endowment on poor kids who no doubt have a lot of potential but I struggle to believe the school really represents the best of the best still. When you factor in athletes who tend to receive less aid, what percentage is left for extremely bright upper middle class kids who represented the majority of the school a generation ago? 15 percent?

[Anonymous]

I wonder about this too OP.

[Anonymous]

Most of those kids would get some FA today.

[Anonymous]

Hopkins too.

They are going to move down the ranks in future years, just like what is happening at Thomas Jefferson HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/09/06/class-2027-arrives-midst-four-year-undergraduate-expansion

2/3 are receiving financial aid (70k on average)

Almost a quarter are Pell Grant recipients (basically poverty line)

It’s nice that Princeton is spending its insane endowment on poor kids who no doubt have a lot of potential but I struggle to believe the school really represents the best of the best still. When you factor in athletes who tend to receive less aid, what percentage is left for extremely bright upper middle class kids who represented the majority of the school a generation ago? 15 percent?

$70k is pretty much everything. I think it’s $76k with room&board.

[Anonymous]

My daughter is an extremely bright, upper middle class (HHI $170k) student at Princeton. We receive $47k in financial aid this year.

[Anonymous]

I mean that means 33% of the student body is still paying over $80,000 a year. I’d say in my friend group only 20% of families could afford to send their kids to a Princeton priced school full pay and everyone went to college/most to grad school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins too.

They are going to move down the ranks in future years, just like what is happening at Thomas Jefferson HS.

Hardly, their entering class stats keep increasing while pell grant recipients increase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean that means 33% of the student body is still paying over $80,000 a year. I’d say in my friend group only 20% of families could afford to send their kids to a Princeton priced school full pay and everyone went to college/most to grad school.

So 80% of your college/grad school educated friend group have HHI of say, less than $300K?

[Anonymous]

It's funny how in NYC, HHI of $600k in my friend group is deemed upper middle class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins too.

They are going to move down the ranks in future years, just like what is happening at Thomas Jefferson HS.

Hardly, their entering class stats keep increasing while pell grant recipients increase.

Well, their GPAs keep increasing but that is grade inflation. In a few years the average GPA in America will be a 5.0.
Most of these kids aren't submitting test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins too.

They are going to move down the ranks in future years, just like what is happening at Thomas Jefferson HS.

Hardly, their entering class stats keep increasing while pell grant recipients increase.

Well, their GPAs keep increasing but that is grade inflation. In a few years the average GPA in America will be a 5.0.
Most of these kids aren't submitting test scores.

What difference does it make? They still have 99% ranked in the top 10% and hoards of valedictorians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/09/06/class-2027-arrives-midst-four-year-undergraduate-expansion

2/3 are receiving financial aid (70k on average)

Almost a quarter are Pell Grant recipients (basically poverty line)

It’s nice that Princeton is spending its insane endowment on poor kids who no doubt have a lot of potential but I struggle to believe the school really represents the best of the best still. When you factor in athletes who tend to receive less aid, what percentage is left for extremely bright upper middle class kids who represented the majority of the school a generation ago? 15 percent?

I'm part of the 33% paying full boat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins too.

They are going to move down the ranks in future years, just like what is happening at Thomas Jefferson HS.

Hardly, their entering class stats keep increasing while pell grant recipients increase.

Well, their GPAs keep increasing but that is grade inflation. In a few years the average GPA in America will be a 5.0.
Most of these kids aren't submitting test scores.

Do you have stats to back up these assertions? Pretty sure 70%+ are submitting test scores. And most of the privates/ivies are test optional as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.princeton.edu/news/2023/09/06/class-2027-arrives-midst-four-year-undergraduate-expansion

2/3 are receiving financial aid (70k on average)

Almost a quarter are Pell Grant recipients (basically poverty line)

It’s nice that Princeton is spending its insane endowment on poor kids who no doubt have a lot of potential but I struggle to believe the school really represents the best of the best still. When you factor in athletes who tend to receive less aid, what percentage is left for extremely bright upper middle class kids who represented the majority of the school a generation ago? 15 percent?

I don't know why we care about the extremely bright upper middle class kids who represented the majority a generation ago.

I mean, what do they bring to the table that first gen or just plain middle class don't? Are you saying the peer group was stronger? I doubt that. Classroom discussions more productive? I doubt that? Opportunities to learn and grow in a residential setting limited? I really doubt that.

I submit that Princeton has FU money and now, finally, can accept the kids they want.

There are a hundred schools happy to take your UMC kid.