Why are young people old?

[Anonymous]

At work we are doing mid year reviews and I was told to focus on career goals, long term goals in an effort to improve retention of employees. Plus the board wants us to do succession planning. We need to pick who to groom for the senior mgt jobs. The young employees acted like they were old during mid year reviews For example.

Employee 1. Graduated 2003, two kids around 5 and 12 and wife. I brought up long term career goals and career path. For instance he is eligible sit CPA, I mentioned we would pay. Also discussed how I could get him 3-4 promotions over next 7-12 years, we could get him some board level presentations and set him up long term. He looked my square in eye and said that’s a lot of work and look I want to kick back and retire around 52. I then explained retirement age is going to be around 70 for him so you have 25-30 years left. He said I don’t plan on working that long.

On to women class of 1993. Same story I give. I get look I got two kids 12 and 10 grade my goal is to just get them through in state and in six years my husband gets a state pension we sell my greatly appreciated DC house and retire.

On to employee 3. This time class of 1995 single women never married I get her parents getting older. She has a dog, taking care of parents will inherit home so one promo at best maybe a raise or two she is done.

In same week I interview a person class of 2020 in big 4. I ask why do you want to leave big 4? I get well “at this point in my career” I want to leave big 4 get something stabile, no travel, more regular. Getting engaged soon and I have hobbies. OMG. Scaling back class of 2020.

We literally have a 65 year old CIO and a 64 year old COO.

I am retiring in 5 years. I want to give my job away. But even the class of 2020 already scaling back.

How did these young people get old so quick? Even Gen Z is talking retirement.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like your job sucks and they all know it. Way back in the olden days when I was in public accounting we had a training for 70ish 2nd year employees in my midsize firm. They asked who wanted to become a partner and no one raised their hands. That’s the vibe I’m getting from you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At work we are doing mid year reviews and I was told to focus on career goals, long term goals in an effort to improve retention of employees. Plus the board wants us to do succession planning. We need to pick who to groom for the senior mgt jobs. The young employees acted like they were old during mid year reviews For example.

Employee 1. Graduated 2003, two kids around 5 and 12 and wife. I brought up long term career goals and career path. For instance he is eligible sit CPA, I mentioned we would pay. Also discussed how I could get him 3-4 promotions over next 7-12 years, we could get him some board level presentations and set him up long term. He looked my square in eye and said that’s a lot of work and look I want to kick back and retire around 52. I then explained retirement age is going to be around 70 for him so you have 25-30 years left. He said I don’t plan on working that long.

On to women class of 1993. Same story I give. I get look I got two kids 12 and 10 grade my goal is to just get them through in state and in six years my husband gets a state pension we sell my greatly appreciated DC house and retire.

On to employee 3. This time class of 1995 single women never married I get her parents getting older. She has a dog, taking care of parents will inherit home so one promo at best maybe a raise or two she is done.

In same week I interview a person class of 2020 in big 4. I ask why do you want to leave big 4? I get well “at this point in my career” I want to leave big 4 get something stabile, no travel, more regular. Getting engaged soon and I have hobbies. OMG. Scaling back class of 2020.

We literally have a 65 year old CIO and a 64 year old COO.

I am retiring in 5 years. I want to give my job away. But even the class of 2020 already scaling back.

How did these young people get old so quick? Even Gen Z is talking retirement.

Sounds like J3 or is J5 now is not meeting your archaic ways.

[Anonymous]

I'm class of '95 and I can't wait to be done in 5 years. Senior SME and have dodged having direct reports. I make 155 and that's plenty for a good life with my own time as my own time.

[Anonymous]

I just want to put in my 7-8 hours each day and then go enjoy my life. My job is just for mental stimulation, making friends and health benefits. I don't care about becoming CFO or anything.

Nobody at work knows that DH and I own almost a dozen properties. We are financially secure.

[Anonymous]

Graduated in 1993 and has a 10 year old? Ouch.

[Anonymous]

I mean, it sounds like people are finally realizing there is more to life than work and life is short. Good for them if they can afford to do the things they love without overworking themselves! That’s the dream! Also, I plan to retire at 55 and am on track to do so.

C/O ‘07

[Anonymous]

Also class of 1993. These boomers have sucked Gen X dry on mid-level jobs for the past 10 years, promising management with even more hours, travel, etc. now for what, a $25,000 raise? We’re tired.

[Anonymous]

The info offered on how to advance came with suggestions for a lot of work (not just literally work but tasks like training, etc). At a certain point in mid career, we just want to work, not looking to prepare to impress for next big thing or promotion. Couple reasons, one, the next big thing or promotion doesn't exist or if it does it doesn't add value to our life or doesn't add significance $$$. Two, what you are offering benefits the company, which is fine, but the WIFM is missing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Graduated in 1993 and has a 10 year old? Ouch.

Seriously. DH and I both graduated in 2006 and have a 10 yr old…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Graduated in 1993 and has a 10 year old? Ouch.

Where do you live? It’s not at all uncommon for women in the DMV to have babies in their early 40s. A 1993 graduate with a 10-year-old had the child at 42.

[Anonymous]

I must be one of your “old” young people. I have a 1yo and a 3yo (class of 2010 if it matters). I’m exhausted all the time. I get next to no breaks between work and parenting. I chose to have my kids and I love it and I like my job too but no way do I want to gun for any extra responsibilities or promotions right now. Talk to me again in 10-20 years as I’m not in the lucky position your people are to retire in my 50s. But for now I’m financially planning for stagnate income and I’m totally fine with that.

Are you the guy who keeps trying to motivate his hourly workers? Because you and he (if not the same person) REALLY need to learn that not everyone wants the same things you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Graduated in 1993 and has a 10 year old? Ouch.

Where do you live? It’s not at all uncommon for women in the DMV to have babies in their early 40s. A 1993 graduate with a 10-year-old had the child at 42.

Grim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Graduated in 1993 and has a 10 year old? Ouch.

Where do you live? It’s not at all uncommon for women in the DMV to have babies in their early 40s. A 1993 graduate with a 10-year-old had the child at 42.

The average age for a woman to have her first baby in DC is 28.9. 29.4 in FFX. 31.0 in Arlington. 29.2 in MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At work we are doing mid year reviews and I was told to focus on career goals, long term goals in an effort to improve retention of employees. Plus the board wants us to do succession planning. We need to pick who to groom for the senior mgt jobs. The young employees acted like they were old during mid year reviews For example.

Employee 1. Graduated 2003, two kids around 5 and 12 and wife. I brought up long term career goals and career path. For instance he is eligible sit CPA, I mentioned we would pay. Also discussed how I could get him 3-4 promotions over next 7-12 years, we could get him some board level presentations and set him up long term. He looked my square in eye and said that’s a lot of work and look I want to kick back and retire around 52. I then explained retirement age is going to be around 70 for him so you have 25-30 years left. He said I don’t plan on working that long.

On to women class of 1993. Same story I give. I get look I got two kids 12 and 10 grade my goal is to just get them through in state and in six years my husband gets a state pension we sell my greatly appreciated DC house and retire.

On to employee 3. This time class of 1995 single women never married I get her parents getting older. She has a dog, taking care of parents will inherit home so one promo at best maybe a raise or two she is done.

In same week I interview a person class of 2020 in big 4. I ask why do you want to leave big 4? I get well “at this point in my career” I want to leave big 4 get something stabile, no travel, more regular. Getting engaged soon and I have hobbies. OMG. Scaling back class of 2020.

We literally have a 65 year old CIO and a 64 year old COO.

I am retiring in 5 years. I want to give my job away. But even the class of 2020 already scaling back.

How did these young people get old so quick? Even Gen Z is talking retirement.

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Why do you write like that? I had a stroke trying to read it.