FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You obviously missed my other comments where I said it should be up to those islands whether they move or not. My default preference is to keep kids in their pyramids.

Big swing and a miss on your comment. Shame on you for being lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

While Langley is often discussed, there are many here outside of Langley who do not want this at all.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You obviously missed my other comments where I said it should be up to those islands whether they move or not. My default preference is to keep kids in their pyramids.

Big swing and a miss on your comment. Shame on you for being lazy.

+1. It’s crazy how some posters don’t even take the time to read posts before responding with angry nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

Ah, but you’re trying to change your argument mid-stream.

Frankly, I’ve heard from people all over the county that they don’t want boundary changes. Go look at the pages posted on the BRAC website from the community meetings- people are overwhelmingly against boundary changes. The fact that there are people from GF on that page defending their pyramid has more to do with the equity warriors trying to drag their kids to a different school pyramid to balance FARMs at the other school. No parents want their kids moved to a different school system to fill a quota.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

Ah, but you’re trying to change your argument mid-stream.

Frankly, I’ve heard from people all over the county that they don’t want boundary changes. Go look at the pages posted on the BRAC website from the community meetings- people are overwhelmingly against boundary changes. The fact that there are people from GF on that page defending their pyramid has more to do with the equity warriors trying to drag their kids to a different school pyramid to balance FARMs at the other school. No parents want their kids moved to a different school system to fill a quota.

Or, maybe, you never took the time to understand the argument.

P.S. - you do yourself no favors by constantly using the terms “shills” and “equity warriors.” It suggests you have a very limited vocabulary and it turns off people who potentially might pay some attention to what you’re trying to say.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

Ah, but you’re trying to change your argument mid-stream.

Frankly, I’ve heard from people all over the county that they don’t want boundary changes. Go look at the pages posted on the BRAC website from the community meetings- people are overwhelmingly against boundary changes. The fact that there are people from GF on that page defending their pyramid has more to do with the equity warriors trying to drag their kids to a different school pyramid to balance FARMs at the other school. No parents want their kids moved to a different school system to fill a quota.

Or, maybe, you never took the time to understand the argument.

P.S. - you do yourself no favors by constantly using the terms “shills” and “equity warriors.” It suggests you have a very limited vocabulary and it turns off people who potentially might pay some attention to what you’re trying to say.

You’re fighting a lonely battle here to move students against their will for no compelling reason in an attempt to smooth FARMs across the pyramids. You defend the SB at every turn. When a shoe fits, you should wear it. You are the equity warrior SB shill- wear it with the misguided pride that you think those terms deserve.

Regardless, given your limited reasoning skills, I’m not interested in taking advice from you on how to successfully craft an argument. I’m just interested in pushing back on your misguided advocacy to screw over a whole bunch of Fairfax students with unnecessary boundary changes in the middle of massive upheaval at the federal level in our region.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

Ah, but you’re trying to change your argument mid-stream.

Frankly, I’ve heard from people all over the county that they don’t want boundary changes. Go look at the pages posted on the BRAC website from the community meetings- people are overwhelmingly against boundary changes. The fact that there are people from GF on that page defending their pyramid has more to do with the equity warriors trying to drag their kids to a different school pyramid to balance FARMs at the other school. No parents want their kids moved to a different school system to fill a quota.

Or, maybe, you never took the time to understand the argument.

P.S. - you do yourself no favors by constantly using the terms “shills” and “equity warriors.” It suggests you have a very limited vocabulary and it turns off people who potentially might pay some attention to what you’re trying to say.

You’re fighting a lonely battle here to move students against their will for no compelling reason in an attempt to smooth FARMs across the pyramids. You defend the SB at every turn. When a shoe fits, you should wear it. You are the equity warrior SB shill- wear it with the misguided pride that you think those terms deserve.

Regardless, given your limited reasoning skills, I’m not interested in taking advice from you on how to successfully craft an argument. I’m just interested in pushing back on your misguided advocacy to screw over a whole bunch of Fairfax students with unnecessary boundary changes in the middle of massive upheaval at the federal level in our region.

I think this boundary review process is unnecessary and should be halted, and have frequently criticized the School Board.

However, I don’t think they will stop something they’ve already started. It’s not really in their DNA. That being the case, I’ve sometimes posted here about how I think it may play out.

You lack the intelligence or temperament to discern this, so you just regularly insult posters by assuming we support the SB and calling us shills, equity warriors, etc. Honestly, you probably need to see a professional to get some help, because it’s impossible to read your responses and not think you don’t regularly misread situations and end up antagonizing others in your personal and professional lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

Ah, but you’re trying to change your argument mid-stream.

Frankly, I’ve heard from people all over the county that they don’t want boundary changes. Go look at the pages posted on the BRAC website from the community meetings- people are overwhelmingly against boundary changes. The fact that there are people from GF on that page defending their pyramid has more to do with the equity warriors trying to drag their kids to a different school pyramid to balance FARMs at the other school. No parents want their kids moved to a different school system to fill a quota.

Or, maybe, you never took the time to understand the argument.

P.S. - you do yourself no favors by constantly using the terms “shills” and “equity warriors.” It suggests you have a very limited vocabulary and it turns off people who potentially might pay some attention to what you’re trying to say.

You’re fighting a lonely battle here to move students against their will for no compelling reason in an attempt to smooth FARMs across the pyramids. You defend the SB at every turn. When a shoe fits, you should wear it. You are the equity warrior SB shill- wear it with the misguided pride that you think those terms deserve.

Regardless, given your limited reasoning skills, I’m not interested in taking advice from you on how to successfully craft an argument. I’m just interested in pushing back on your misguided advocacy to screw over a whole bunch of Fairfax students with unnecessary boundary changes in the middle of massive upheaval at the federal level in our region.

I think this boundary review process is unnecessary and should be halted, and have frequently criticized the School Board.

However, I don’t think they will stop something they’ve already started. It’s not really in their DNA. That being the case, I’ve sometimes posted here about how I think it may play out.

You lack the intelligence or temperament to discern this, so you just regularly insult posters by assuming we support the SB and calling us shills, equity warriors, etc. Honestly, you probably need to see a professional to get some help, because it’s impossible to read your responses and not think you don’t regularly misread situations and end up antagonizing others in your personal and professional lives.

You gotta learn to use “DP” in your post if you aren’t the original poster to whom i was responding.

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So when is the next BRAC meeting?

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3/13/25 is the SB meeting with the presentations of the potential scope for the Coates and Parklawn boundary processes. Total 25% of FCPS elementary schools in these 2 processes running concurrently with the divisionwide process. What's the implementation school year? 1 apart? And to top it off there is the Reid middle school 6-8. Plus AAP movement to/from sites not in the base school including those with AAP proposed scope: Forest Edge, Sunrise Valley, Canterbury Woods.
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/DEGNCN5F4E0B/$file/Presentation%20-%20Proposed%20Scope%20for%20Coates%20ES%20Boundary%20Study.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

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Anonymous wrote:Was out in Loudoun earlier today and just traveled from 193/Route 7 (Dranesville) to Cooper and Langley.

Non-rush hour and perfect driving conditions.

To Cooper: 9 miles and 21 minutes

To Langley: 10 miles and 25 minutes

No doubt that trip is considerably longer during rush hour and when driving conditions are poor.

Whatever else happens with the boundary review, if there is a practical way to send those kids to a closer school, that's what FCPS should do. We are paying a lot just to allow one set of wealthy kids to attend school with other wealthy kids and no poor kids.

Just to push back against tour narrative. I live out there, and have taken to checking travel times from Forestville when the buses go by my house. The delta is 3.4 minutes longer to cooper than HMS on average and 9.8 minutes longer to Langley than HHS.

Not sure what you think it costs to employ an extra bus driver for half an hour a day, but I assure you $12 is the lowest hanging fruit that they could go after.

Get yourself a better argument, or at least admit it’s all an equity play for you.

Dude - there is a group on replying with the same argument; their goal is to get the Dems out. This was brought up before on the other forums. Certain Republicans are using the FCPS forum to foment some anger. There was even a debate to show where equity was the primary goal - it's not anywhere. The goal has been dealing with over populated schools.

Geography cannot be defeated by bussing. This is a physical limitation.

If there is a Republican plan to handle the overcrowding then let's hear it. But so far it's get the Dems out and make some deep cuts to FCPS.

Maybe stop wasting millions of dollars on political fads (e.g., million dollar+ name changes from Woodson to ... Woodson) and DEI crap and FCPS would have more money to actually, ya know, carry out their mission of educating kids. Just a thought.

You didn’t really answer PP’s question. How do we get rid of overcrowding if not boundary changes?

DP.

Well, PP said that two of the three overcrowded schools are chantilly and centreville, and the centreville expansion costing hundreds if millions seems to be on track. So not sure why they couldn’t do something similar for McLean. Problem solved.

Otherwise, move the two McLean islands and call it a day. There is no need for further moves than that.

You just don't want the poor kids at McLean. You want to turn it into another Langley. Shame on you.

You do know you’re likely responding to a Langley poster who’s saying whatever they do with McLean needn’t require moving anyone out of Langley (“no need for further moves than that”), right?

That poster doesn’t care one way or the other how many poor kids end up at McLean. They just want to be unaffected by any boundary changes.

DP. Give it a rest. Your constant invoking of Langley as some kind of boogeyman just makes you look idiotic. You have no idea who wrote the post in question. Grow up, for once.

Have you completely lost your marbles or never read the FairFACTS Matters FB page? Great Falls posters there often talk about potential boundary changes that could affect other schools but not require moving anyone out of Langley.

You blaming fairfacts matters for what posters post on their Facebook page is like me blaming dcurbanmoms for the drivel that you write.

FFM is a county wide organization that doesn’t limit its members to GF.

Come up with a better argument, because you’re floundering.

The posters on that FB page generally are identified by name and typically indicate where they live or their pyramids.

It’s neither controversial nor insulting to observe that quite a few Langley posters argue that, whatever happens to boundaries at other schools, they don’t think anyone needs to be moved out of Langley. In some cases, they illustrate that by referring to specific boundary changes that might involve other schools.

And, as I’ve pointed out before, their position is bolstered by the fact that Langley could claw back 100 additional seats just by ceasing to accept pupil placements.

I will say that, since DOGE started cutting federal jobs, some on that page have argued that the entire boundary review process should be halted, but that’s a more recent development.

DP. I have heard NO ONE say they want boundary changes. Well, except for those who would stand to benefit from them, of course. Stop your incessant blathering about Langley. They don’t want their kids moved any more than you want YOUR kids moved.