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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.
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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.

We will know because there is a Republican special counsel investigating it. You probably won’t believe what they find, but we will now.
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Anonymous wrote:All he had to do was send the stuff back. It really is that simple.

It truly is. That’s the (undeserved) presidential respect he’s been granted, the multiple multiple chances, the benefit of the doubt, all that. He’s a complete chad as are all the tools defending him. He’s a traitor, you guys.


If a bank robber robs a bank, is he charged if the gives the money back?


If you walked into a bank with a bag, set it down, and then picked up another similar bag not knowing it was full of money and walked out, and then later discovered the money was in there and immediately returned it, you would not be charged with bank robbery.


I'm sorry, but LOLOL, you believe that Trump walked in and meant to take these other dozens of boxes - but accidentally picked up all the ones marked classified, containing nuclear info and war plans? And then - what, forgot they were in the bathroom? Then told his lawyer to get rid of them because he figured no one really cared even though DOJ and the Archives kept telling him he had to bring them back?

You are seriously willing to believe ANYTHING in the world that could excuse the inexcusable things that you dumb dictator does - right there in the open!


No, I’m demonstrating why the Trump case is different than the Biden case. Geez people.
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High on his own supply. Spends way too much time on Truth Social sucking down RWNJ BS.

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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.


The VP doesn’t have the right to classified documents? Give me break.
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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.


You obviously never worked for a Member of the House or Senate. The handful of documents supposedly from Biden’s Senate days sound like briefing or background documents from an overseas delegation trip that the military liaison on the trip should have collected after meetings and events. They reportedly were mixed in with handwritten notes and non classified documents so my guess is that a classified briefing document wasn’t put back in its folder, got mixed with other papers, and was overlooked with nobody realizing it. These weren’t top secret war strategy documents. They were briefing or background documents that referenced information from classified sources, not the source documents themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:High on his own supply. Spends way too much time on Truth Social sucking down RWNJ BS.



John Bolton gave a great refutation of the stupid idea that Trump taking a document home with him amounted to a de facto declassification. He said the President can’t just declassify a piece of paper, he has to declassify the information that is in the document, which exists in other copies and other documents and other forms and other sources, and there are established processes required to signify the declassification action all through the system. Obviously Trump did not do any of that. He just smuggled out the documents.
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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.


You obviously never worked for a Member of the House or Senate. The handful of documents supposedly from Biden’s Senate days sound like briefing or background documents from an overseas delegation trip that the military liaison on the trip should have collected after meetings and events. They reportedly were mixed in with handwritten notes and non classified documents so my guess is that a classified briefing document wasn’t put back in its folder, got mixed with other papers, and was overlooked with nobody realizing it. These weren’t top secret war strategy documents. They were briefing or background documents that referenced information from classified sources, not the source documents themselves.


None of what Biden or Pence is relevant. They both invited the FBI in to find the documents. Trump obstructed the investigation, that’s what matters.
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Anonymous wrote:Tulsi Gabbard on Trump's Indictment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmQarG44QE


If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.


Presidential records? That has nothing to do with it.

U.S. Constitution - Article 2, Section 2.


Article 2 Section 2 has nothing to do with it either. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it confer any right for the President to take government assets

By your bizarre reading, Trump could have flown Air Force One to Florida and declared it to be his own personal property. He is not entitled to it, just as he is not entitled to take official agency documents, particularly some of the most sensitive ones in US government. The only things he was entitled to take were his own personal notes, his own personal correspondence and other personal items.


Wrong. As head of the executive branch, he had the authority to do exactly what he did.


Actually he was a fired employee. You aren’t allowed to take company property when you leave. Period.


I’ll just leave this right here as an example of the stupidity of leftists



Actually, you were just hoisted by your own petard.

Is an employee who is no longer employed allowed to keep corporate property?

No.

Former President Trump left office. He was not entitled to keep the property of the US public.

He was entitled to keep his own property.

The items in question were not his property.

This isn't hard.



Substitute Biden for Trump. Biden was never President. Was Biden entitled to keep that property?


No but he freely gave it back when it was discovered. The law says “willfully retains”. Where Trump screwed up was fighting the return of material, which is proof of his intent.


He kept it for years. That’s willfully retaining it. In addition, he out and out stole it as he had no legal right as a Senator to have those documents.
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Anonymous wrote:All he had to do was send the stuff back. It really is that simple.

It truly is. That’s the (undeserved) presidential respect he’s been granted, the multiple multiple chances, the benefit of the doubt, all that. He’s a complete chad as are all the tools defending him. He’s a traitor, you guys.


If a bank robber robs a bank, is he charged if the gives the money back?


False analogy. You can't accidentally rob a bank. The law is written as “willfully retains”. That's where Trump screwed up where Biden and Pence did not.


Biden accidentally took classified documents from a SCIF as senator?
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Anonymous wrote:All he had to do was send the stuff back. It really is that simple.

It truly is. That’s the (undeserved) presidential respect he’s been granted, the multiple multiple chances, the benefit of the doubt, all that. He’s a complete chad as are all the tools defending him. He’s a traitor, you guys.


If a bank robber robs a bank, is he charged if the gives the money back?


False analogy. You can't accidentally rob a bank. The law is written as “willfully retains”. That's where Trump screwed up where Biden and Pence did not.


Where Trump screwed up was in not returning the documents that he had, when both Biden and Pence actually asked for NARA/FBI to review their holdings because they actually didn't know they had them in their possession. The gaslighting is strong with you.


How do you know that Biden and Pence didn’t know they had them in their possession? Their word?
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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.


You obviously never worked for a Member of the House or Senate. The handful of documents supposedly from Biden’s Senate days sound like briefing or background documents from an overseas delegation trip that the military liaison on the trip should have collected after meetings and events. They reportedly were mixed in with handwritten notes and non classified documents so my guess is that a classified briefing document wasn’t put back in its folder, got mixed with other papers, and was overlooked with nobody realizing it. These weren’t top secret war strategy documents. They were briefing or background documents that referenced information from classified sources, not the source documents themselves.


Absolutely incorrect
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Anonymous wrote:All he had to do was send the stuff back. It really is that simple.

It truly is. That’s the (undeserved) presidential respect he’s been granted, the multiple multiple chances, the benefit of the doubt, all that. He’s a complete chad as are all the tools defending him. He’s a traitor, you guys.


If a bank robber robs a bank, is he charged if the gives the money back?


False analogy. You can't accidentally rob a bank. The law is written as “willfully retains”. That's where Trump screwed up where Biden and Pence did not.


Biden accidentally took classified documents from a SCIF as senator?


No. You don’t know what you are talking about.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All he had to do was send the stuff back. It really is that simple.

It truly is. That’s the (undeserved) presidential respect he’s been granted, the multiple multiple chances, the benefit of the doubt, all that. He’s a complete chad as are all the tools defending him. He’s a traitor, you guys.


If a bank robber robs a bank, is he charged if the gives the money back?


False analogy. You can't accidentally rob a bank. The law is written as “willfully retains”. That's where Trump screwed up where Biden and Pence did not.


Biden accidentally took classified documents from a SCIF as senator?


No. You don’t know what you are talking about.


I do. There were documents dating back to his Senate days
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And with Biden and Pence, they were just a handful of documents, a few dozen pages tops, and they related to routine things Biden and Pence were working on. Definite honest-mistake stuff.


That is true of Pence. Unlikely true of Biden. Where have you seen that report?

Remember, it has been reported that Biden had classified documents from Senate days--which he was not allowed to have outside thre SCIF. We still have not had an explanation of that.

He had documents in several places that were moved around and not secure--especially, those at his home. As Vice president, he did not have the right to them and they were not under Secret Service security --unlike those Trump had. How many documents walked off with Hunter when he was staying in the house? We will likely never know.


You obviously never worked for a Member of the House or Senate. The handful of documents supposedly from Biden’s Senate days sound like briefing or background documents from an overseas delegation trip that the military liaison on the trip should have collected after meetings and events. They reportedly were mixed in with handwritten notes and non classified documents so my guess is that a classified briefing document wasn’t put back in its folder, got mixed with other papers, and was overlooked with nobody realizing it. These weren’t top secret war strategy documents. They were briefing or background documents that referenced information from classified sources, not the source documents themselves.


None of what Biden or Pence is relevant. They both invited the FBI in to find the documents. Trump obstructed the investigation, that’s what matters.


Wrong.
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