Fragile Children =

Anonymous
Fragile Parents = Fragile Americans. As a parent, I clicked on this video because I am interested in some of the issues kids have these days. But I really think much of what he says goes beyond children and really reflects our larger society. It’s a quick video and worth a watch because he’s correct; this isn’t good for us. It isn’t just kids with problems; it’s adults.

Anonymous
I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.



My kids started using public transportation in DC alone in 6th grade (11). I think this is pretty common here. I don’t think 9 is too young.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


Here is a fragile adult.
Anonymous
I think his first assertion, that there is a dramatic shift starting in 1995, is utterly incorrect. In everything I have seen, there has been a gradual shift in parenting norms going back to the 1700s. For example, the range that a child has (ie the area they travel independently) has shrunk over the course of our country's history. Beliefs about when someone goes from child to adult have evolved. Expectations about the age at which education has finished evolved.

For me this dire warning about a brewing catastrophe starting in 19995 sounded like the type of thing someone would say when they have a book to sell. So I looked him up and guess what, he has a book to sell! A book that uses fear of bad parenting to sell itself.

As for the idea of applying a book about parenting as a societal critique, I think there is little value generally. The best minds try to psychoanalyze countries for political gain, and it usually ends badly. See for example, the analysis Putin relied on that said Europe would not respond to an invasion of Ukraine. Psychobabble fails to work reliably on the world stage.





Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...


When I was bullied my brother or other older neighbor kids took up for me. We learned how to sort things ourselves.
Anonymous
Haidt lives in Scarsdale.
Anonymous
His points on sorting everything into binary oppositions to create tribalism is completely what our society has done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...


When I was bullied my brother or other older neighbor kids took up for me. We learned how to sort things ourselves.


And what about the kids who didn’t have siblings or the good luck that you had?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...


Many of us gen xers are also pretty effed up people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...


Many of us gen xers are also pretty effed up people.


Speak for yourself, not for the rest of us. I am supremely confident in my ability to figure out how to handle anything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...


Many of us gen xers are also pretty effed up people.


Speak for yourself, not for the rest of us. I am supremely confident in my ability to figure out how to handle anything.


Oh lordy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.


This is how most of us Gen X'ers grew up... on our own, being bullied, minimal parental involvement or supervision...


Many of us gen xers are also pretty effed up people.


Less so than kids today and I believe less than the previous generation as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:His points on sorting everything into binary oppositions to create tribalism is completely what our society has done.


On full display on DCUM.

Haidt used to be very liberal till he figured out the tribalism is bullshit.
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