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[Anonymous]

Our policies and regulatory systems are soooooo very behind the times, it’s just a joke at this point. We are missing out on opprtunties to really improve people’s lives because we are stuck in old ways of thinking about work, productivity, and personal fulfillment. And because the people who make all of the money in this economy like it that way.

Anyway, I’m ready for fully automated luxury communism. Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our policies and regulatory systems are soooooo very behind the times, it’s just a joke at this point. We are missing out on opprtunties to really improve people’s lives because we are stuck in old ways of thinking about work, productivity, and personal fulfillment. And because the people who make all of the money in this economy like it that way.

Anyway, I’m ready for fully automated luxury communism. Lol.

it'll be SO AMAZING

all the human race has been missing all this time is THIS IDEA

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Anonymous wrote:Oh come on. It is plainly not more stressful and complicated for people to exist now. This is probably the easiest and least complicated time to exist ever.

It’s unbelievable indulgent and myopic to claim that now is the most stressful and complicated time to exist while living in a country with a history including slavery, multiple wars, Native American genocide, and where most people couldn’t even vote for much of the time. Good Lord. Get some perspective.

I think physically our lives are a lot less stressful and easier to exist. But our mental burdens are much much greater. People centuries ago lived simple lives, did their daily honest (usually physical) work, went home, slept, repeat. There was a stronger sense of family, community, religion. People knew who they were and where they belonged. Relationships lasted your whole life and weren't torn apart by distance and people moving.

Yes, slaves in the American South certainly were living in a stress-free environment where family wasn’t torn apart. Those Native Americans on the Trail of Tears were just enjoying a nice walk.

What is wrong with you?? My God.

Are you not aware yet that we are discussing hunter gatherer societies and not the antebellum south? You are arguing with yourself.

Right. Hunter gatherers where femicide was often enthusiastically practiced, women died regularly in childbirth, and lifespan was maybe 40. The good old days. So much awesomeness.

… Have you ever even spoken to an anthropologist?

No one is minimizing the very real threats faced by previous generations. We are simply stating that the removal of those threats by medical science don't diminish the threats made to our mental health by other advancements. Just like the rates of death by boars in the wild on a boar hunt are not minimized by the death by machinery in factories. Stop arguing nonsense.

This poster always does this. I think it’s possible that the idea that we aren’t comfortable with where things are for everyone is threatening to people that belong to groups that have made big gains over the last century. I know I feel it sometimes when people say things like—“it was so much better when women were at home with kids” etc etc. but that’s not what we’re talking about here.

I’m talking about a world that looks like the one we have, but even better, where women and men from every background have equal opportunities to thrive because they aren’t being absolutely crushed by the top 1% who have made obscene profits off of the technological advancements that are supposed to be making our lives better but are leaving us burnt out instead. Our productivity expectations today are insane compared to the generation of people before us. When I first started my professional career having ONE client meeting a day was a big deal. Now I have ten that I cram in the same number of hours because technology. I don’t think my pay increased to reflect that. Just an example.

You people are the ones in this thread saying this is the most stressful and complicated time to live ever. That was literally written by one of you. Of course people are going to point out the abject absurdity of that statement.

It is though. Humans are living in far more of a complex system than they used to. People alive today are able to talk to people across the world instantaneously when that wasn’t true for their parents. If you don’t think that ups the complexity of life I don’t know what to tell you. It’s a lot for the world to deal with. We have made huge strides but we aren’t keeping up with the externalities.

I think it is patently absurd and remarkably entitled to claim that instantaneous communication makes life more stressful and complicated than any other time in history.

And if you truly believe this, and are telling kids and teens this, no wonder we have a mental health crisis among teens in this world. They are being given the message that their stress about responding to SnapChat in time is graver than what refugee children go through. But they instinctively know that’s BS, everyone rational knows that’s self-indulgent nonsense. The disconnect with reality is enormous.

Ok then. I guess you’re gonna die on this hill. The rest of us are trying to figure out how to help people cope with a rapidly changing economy that has resulted from the absolutely insane explosion of communications and computer driven technology in our lifetimes. We are living in a society built and run by guys who didn’t even have TVs in their homes growing up.

I guess you are going to raise kids who grow up terrified and truly believing that they have it worse off than any other children at any other time in history because of blue light and social media. That sure sounds like a recipe for a mentally healthy child.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policies and regulatory systems are soooooo very behind the times, it’s just a joke at this point. We are missing out on opprtunties to really improve people’s lives because we are stuck in old ways of thinking about work, productivity, and personal fulfillment. And because the people who make all of the money in this economy like it that way.

Anyway, I’m ready for fully automated luxury communism. Lol.

it'll be SO AMAZING

all the human race has been missing all this time is THIS IDEA

Calgon, take me away!

[Anonymous]

The weird idealism of some fantasy agrarian commune life that people apparently think was real in this thread is absolutely bizarre. I thought people outgrew their Lord of the Rings fantasies by about age 13 or so but I guess not.

Here is a life tip: you do not live in Mordor.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh come on. It is plainly not more stressful and complicated for people to exist now. This is probably the easiest and least complicated time to exist ever.

It’s unbelievable indulgent and myopic to claim that now is the most stressful and complicated time to exist while living in a country with a history including slavery, multiple wars, Native American genocide, and where most people couldn’t even vote for much of the time. Good Lord. Get some perspective.

I think physically our lives are a lot less stressful and easier to exist. But our mental burdens are much much greater. People centuries ago lived simple lives, did their daily honest (usually physical) work, went home, slept, repeat. There was a stronger sense of family, community, religion. People knew who they were and where they belonged. Relationships lasted your whole life and weren't torn apart by distance and people moving.

Yes, slaves in the American South certainly were living in a stress-free environment where family wasn’t torn apart. Those Native Americans on the Trail of Tears were just enjoying a nice walk.

What is wrong with you?? My God.

Are you not aware yet that we are discussing hunter gatherer societies and not the antebellum south? You are arguing with yourself.

Right. Hunter gatherers where femicide was often enthusiastically practiced, women died regularly in childbirth, and lifespan was maybe 40. The good old days. So much awesomeness.

… Have you ever even spoken to an anthropologist?

No one is minimizing the very real threats faced by previous generations. We are simply stating that the removal of those threats by medical science don't diminish the threats made to our mental health by other advancements. Just like the rates of death by boars in the wild on a boar hunt are not minimized by the death by machinery in factories. Stop arguing nonsense.

This poster always does this. I think it’s possible that the idea that we aren’t comfortable with where things are for everyone is threatening to people that belong to groups that have made big gains over the last century. I know I feel it sometimes when people say things like—“it was so much better when women were at home with kids” etc etc. but that’s not what we’re talking about here.

I’m talking about a world that looks like the one we have, but even better, where women and men from every background have equal opportunities to thrive because they aren’t being absolutely crushed by the top 1% who have made obscene profits off of the technological advancements that are supposed to be making our lives better but are leaving us burnt out instead. Our productivity expectations today are insane compared to the generation of people before us. When I first started my professional career having ONE client meeting a day was a big deal. Now I have ten that I cram in the same number of hours because technology. I don’t think my pay increased to reflect that. Just an example.

You people are the ones in this thread saying this is the most stressful and complicated time to live ever. That was literally written by one of you. Of course people are going to point out the abject absurdity of that statement.

It is though. Humans are living in far more of a complex system than they used to. People alive today are able to talk to people across the world instantaneously when that wasn’t true for their parents. If you don’t think that ups the complexity of life I don’t know what to tell you. It’s a lot for the world to deal with. We have made huge strides but we aren’t keeping up with the externalities.

I think it is patently absurd and remarkably entitled to claim that instantaneous communication makes life more stressful and complicated than any other time in history.

And if you truly believe this, and are telling kids and teens this, no wonder we have a mental health crisis among teens in this world. They are being given the message that their stress about responding to SnapChat in time is graver than what refugee children go through. But they instinctively know that’s BS, everyone rational knows that’s self-indulgent nonsense. The disconnect with reality is enormous.

Ok then. I guess you’re gonna die on this hill. The rest of us are trying to figure out how to help people cope with a rapidly changing economy that has resulted from the absolutely insane explosion of communications and computer driven technology in our lifetimes. We are living in a society built and run by guys who didn’t even have TVs in their homes growing up.

I guess you are going to raise kids who grow up terrified and truly believing that they have it worse off than any other children at any other time in history because of blue light and social media. That sure sounds like a recipe for a mentally healthy child.

Lotta willful misunderstanding in your post I’m not going to address because it’s just a lot to unpack. Maybe go for a walk or something. But, I will say I had a super amazing conversation recently with my son about how things are actually better now than ever before but complicated because we’ve never been able to to communicate so freely! Some day we might even be able to talk to alien life forms if we don’t all blow eachother up first. He was feeling a bit worried about the increase of school shootings you see. So your assumptions are trash. Again, not surprising.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh come on. It is plainly not more stressful and complicated for people to exist now. This is probably the easiest and least complicated time to exist ever.

It’s unbelievable indulgent and myopic to claim that now is the most stressful and complicated time to exist while living in a country with a history including slavery, multiple wars, Native American genocide, and where most people couldn’t even vote for much of the time. Good Lord. Get some perspective.

I think physically our lives are a lot less stressful and easier to exist. But our mental burdens are much much greater. People centuries ago lived simple lives, did their daily honest (usually physical) work, went home, slept, repeat. There was a stronger sense of family, community, religion. People knew who they were and where they belonged. Relationships lasted your whole life and weren't torn apart by distance and people moving.

Yes, slaves in the American South certainly were living in a stress-free environment where family wasn’t torn apart. Those Native Americans on the Trail of Tears were just enjoying a nice walk.

What is wrong with you?? My God.

Are you not aware yet that we are discussing hunter gatherer societies and not the antebellum south? You are arguing with yourself.

Right. Hunter gatherers where femicide was often enthusiastically practiced, women died regularly in childbirth, and lifespan was maybe 40. The good old days. So much awesomeness.

… Have you ever even spoken to an anthropologist?

No one is minimizing the very real threats faced by previous generations. We are simply stating that the removal of those threats by medical science don't diminish the threats made to our mental health by other advancements. Just like the rates of death by boars in the wild on a boar hunt are not minimized by the death by machinery in factories. Stop arguing nonsense.

This poster always does this. I think it’s possible that the idea that we aren’t comfortable with where things are for everyone is threatening to people that belong to groups that have made big gains over the last century. I know I feel it sometimes when people say things like—“it was so much better when women were at home with kids” etc etc. but that’s not what we’re talking about here.

I’m talking about a world that looks like the one we have, but even better, where women and men from every background have equal opportunities to thrive because they aren’t being absolutely crushed by the top 1% who have made obscene profits off of the technological advancements that are supposed to be making our lives better but are leaving us burnt out instead. Our productivity expectations today are insane compared to the generation of people before us. When I first started my professional career having ONE client meeting a day was a big deal. Now I have ten that I cram in the same number of hours because technology. I don’t think my pay increased to reflect that. Just an example.

You people are the ones in this thread saying this is the most stressful and complicated time to live ever. That was literally written by one of you. Of course people are going to point out the abject absurdity of that statement.

It is though. Humans are living in far more of a complex system than they used to. People alive today are able to talk to people across the world instantaneously when that wasn’t true for their parents. If you don’t think that ups the complexity of life I don’t know what to tell you. It’s a lot for the world to deal with. We have made huge strides but we aren’t keeping up with the externalities.

I think it is patently absurd and remarkably entitled to claim that instantaneous communication makes life more stressful and complicated than any other time in history.

And if you truly believe this, and are telling kids and teens this, no wonder we have a mental health crisis among teens in this world. They are being given the message that their stress about responding to SnapChat in time is graver than what refugee children go through. But they instinctively know that’s BS, everyone rational knows that’s self-indulgent nonsense. The disconnect with reality is enormous.

Ok then. I guess you’re gonna die on this hill. The rest of us are trying to figure out how to help people cope with a rapidly changing economy that has resulted from the absolutely insane explosion of communications and computer driven technology in our lifetimes. We are living in a society built and run by guys who didn’t even have TVs in their homes growing up.

I guess you are going to raise kids who grow up terrified and truly believing that they have it worse off than any other children at any other time in history because of blue light and social media. That sure sounds like a recipe for a mentally healthy child.

Lotta willful misunderstanding in your post I’m not going to address because it’s just a lot to unpack. Maybe go for a walk or something. But, I will say I had a super amazing conversation recently with my son about how things are actually better now than ever before but complicated because we’ve never been able to to communicate so freely! Some day we might even be able to talk to alien life forms if we don’t all blow eachother up first. He was feeling a bit worried about the increase of school shootings you see. So your assumptions are trash. Again, not surprising.

Sure Jan.

[Anonymous]

The most entitled people in the world talking about how hard they have it in on of the richest countries in the world.

You all must come from weak bloodlines if modernity is causing you such hardships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most entitled people in the world talking about how hard they have it in on of the richest countries in the world.

You all must come from weak bloodlines if modernity is causing you such hardships.

Can I ask why you frequent a poltical discussion board if you aren’t interested in discussing solutions to today’s problems? Just kind of weird.

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Anonymous wrote:The most entitled people in the world talking about how hard they have it in on of the richest countries in the world.

You all must come from weak bloodlines if modernity is causing you such hardships.

Can I ask why you frequent a poltical discussion board if you aren’t interested in discussing solutions to today’s problems? Just kind of weird.

I have yet to see anyone propose a solution that that does not involve partisan bickering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The weird idealism of some fantasy agrarian commune life that people apparently think was real in this thread is absolutely bizarre. I thought people outgrew their Lord of the Rings fantasies by about age 13 or so but I guess not.

Here is a life tip: you do not live in Mordor.

I think a ton of people dream about living the life in Game of Thrones rather than modernity. Of course they won't be killed or get disease.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped when he mentioned the part about a 9 year old riding the NYC subway alone. I’m a grown adult and have been confronted with some difficult and aggressive people over the years. Situations that I just wouldn’t want my 9 yo to deal with.

The whole idea that being bullied “toughens you up” is also complete horse crap.

My kids started using public transportation in DC alone in 6th grade (11). I think this is pretty common here. I don’t think 9 is too young.

There is a vast difference between a 9 year old and an 11 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:The weird idealism of some fantasy agrarian commune life that people apparently think was real in this thread is absolutely bizarre. I thought people outgrew their Lord of the Rings fantasies by about age 13 or so but I guess not.

Here is a life tip: you do not live in Mordor.

I think a ton of people dream about living the life in Game of Thrones rather than modernity. Of course they won't be killed or get disease.

Boy you really have us all pegged, huh? A real straw man of your own design.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haidt lives in Scarsdale.

A very insular jewish place

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The weird idealism of some fantasy agrarian commune life that people apparently think was real in this thread is absolutely bizarre. I thought people outgrew their Lord of the Rings fantasies by about age 13 or so but I guess not.

Here is a life tip: you do not live in Mordor.

I think a ton of people dream about living the life in Game of Thrones rather than modernity. Of course they won't be killed or get disease.

It stems from Jeffersonian cringe so it runs deep in the American psyche

That america is gonna be a whole nation of yeoman small individual farmers