Plane crash DCA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reporter: "What does diversity have to do with this crash?"

Trump: "It's just common sense. We want to have the best people and we don't. This is a big chess game. These are complex computer systems and we want the best. And we don't use the best. There are certain countries with genius computer systems and we didn't buy those. We need the best computer systems for aviation."

They are trying to give his opponents strokes.

With the nominees he has put forward , very few of whom are in any way qualified to run important agencies…they (including Hegseth ) have the NERVE to say they only appoint the best and the brightest.

How can anyone pretend this is serious leadership, or that our country can survive 4 years of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.

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Anonymous wrote:So many kids died on that plane and all everyone's harping about is politics.
Disgusting.

The politics are coming straight out of the President’s mouth. Yes, disgusting.

+1

WTAF?

It isn't that hard to do the right thing here.

Oh he's doing the Right thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many kids died on that plane and all everyone's harping about is politics.
Disgusting.

The politics are coming straight out of the President’s mouth. Yes, disgusting.

He is the worst person in the world.

+100. How can someone be so pathetically evil? Creating division and blaming Biden for this while you sit in the White House? I hope he drops dead. We are truly truly doomed as a country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the helo was en route from Langley back to Ft. Belvoir, why did they follow the river at all? It's not remotely the most direct path, which would be over land.

The military helicopter was on an annual recertification training flight. They flew straight into the right rear of AA passenger airplane! They were at an unauthorized altitude at impact.
They should have seen the passenger airplane!

There is nothing the AA pilots could have done who were seconds away from touchdown! The AC controllers were talking to both aircraft. Helicopter said they saw the airplane, but they didn’t flying directly into it (with night vision goggles on per Hegseth).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.

So what if it was a woman? Has a man never crashed a plane? The blame lies on DoD to be allowing ‘training flights’ at night right next to a very busy airport. I’m in McLean and the number of helicopters that have been going around the last three weeks has been very strange. Guess what? It has been awfully quiet today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many kids died on that plane and all everyone's harping about is politics.
Disgusting.

If by everyone you mean Trump and his team, then yes you are correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chris Plant of WMAL actually said on air today that the crash was caused by the “armless, legless, handicapped midgets that Biden’s DEI initiatives hired as air traffic controllers.”

In the old days, this idiot would already be out of a job. These days, that talk is celebrated.

AYFKM? MAGA, how is this ok with you? Do you consider yourselves Christian? How are you supporting someone so cruel?

I don’t even know who that guy is.

Dollar Store Rush Limbaugh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.

Do you not Nazi how you are playing directly into Nazi rhetoric?

Trump filled the government with grossly unqualified insane people, and you "REALLY hope" non-WhiteMen don't exist, because any one that does exist will be blamed for anything that goes wrong?

THIS IS HOW GENOCIDES LAUNCH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Helo departed from Langley, most likely after delivering VIPs. They don't use their transponder until they are a little bit aways from Langley. They didn't take off from a tiny backyard in McLean, FFS. Use your brains.

People are just posting what the map shows. How can they know when transponders are turned on from Langley? The other flights are and off from takeoff and landing at the airports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

Couldn't the person talking not have been the one flying the helicopter? There were three soldiers on the helicopter. This makes sense with Trump's DEI statements. Hegseth said in his statement that they know the identities of the soldiers on board. And, of course, this would play perfectly into Hegseth's claims that the military has gone to shit under Biden because it's no longer the best and brightest being promoted, etc., it's all based on DEI. He also claims that, under Biden, there's not enough time for military training in the field, etc. because they all had to constantly do DEI, sexual assault, etc. training. I REALLY hope the PP is wrong that the pilot of the helicopter was a woman, but I'm afraid that may be the case.

So what if it was a woman? Has a man never crashed a plane? The blame lies on DoD to be allowing ‘training flights’ at night right next to a very busy airport. I’m in McLean and the number of helicopters that have been going around the last three weeks has been very strange. Guess what? It has been awfully quiet today.

The reason it matters is because it gives Trump and Hegseth ammunition in their claims that the military is prioritizing DEI/wokeness over merit. I'm not saying they are right, but they certainly will make the argument that this is evidnece they are right if it was a woman flying that military helicopter. Why is this hard to understand?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the helo was en route from Langley back to Ft. Belvoir, why did they follow the river at all? It's not remotely the most direct path, which would be over land.

The military helicopter was on an annual recertification training flight. They flew straight into the right rear of AA passenger airplane! They were at an unauthorized altitude at impact.
They should have seen the passenger airplane!

There is nothing the AA pilots could have done who were seconds away from touchdown! The AC controllers were talking to both aircraft. Helicopter said they saw the airplane, but they didn’t flying directly into it (with night vision goggles on per Hegseth).

That's not great. Night vision goggles typically have a narrow FOV. Even the better ones are only 120 degrees.

[Anonymous]

Please post links of the victims .. is there a list somewhere?

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Anonymous wrote:➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

So they sabotaged it? I doubt that very much. I have a higher opinion of FAA employees than you do.

Not sabotage. Stress.

Remember that one of Trump’s people said their goal was to “traumatize federal employees.”

Was this actually an ATC error? I thought it was mainly the helicopter error.

No one knows yet.

To me, it does look like some element of ATC error. It clearly was not communicating to both the helicopter and the airplane that they were headed straight for each other and need to take action.

That’s not true, the tower clearly advised the helicopter about the traffic, which plane it was and where it was going. Then they confirm visual separation. Then they actually do see it and tell the helicopter to go behind the plane. I don’t think there’s any way from what we could hear that the tower would anticipate the helicopter flying into the plane, but obviously we have limited info. But the tower does contact the helicopter before the crash.

It’s also amazing how he stayed so calm and redirected the other planes, especially that American pilot who was kind of a d$& about it.

But clearly the helicopter didn’t understand which plane the ATC had identified and that is part of the problem. We don’t know all of what was said, but it’s the ATCs job to make sure all the planes headed into the runway are aware of each other, on correct course and don’t collide, and that didn’t happen.

Did you listen to the ATC recording? That did happen. The controller confirmed with the BH pilot that he saw the airplane. The pilot confirmed he did.

Unclear if helicopter pilot was talking about the Wichita jet about to land on runway 33 or the line of planes for runway 1.

If a helicopter pilot wrongly assumed runway 1 or the next jet down the line, bad news.

Fatal miscommunication and misunderstanding.

Neither should be happening in the air travel world. Crystal clear directions and identification should be given to non commercial aircraft, esp at night.

+1

Sad all the way around.

[Anonymous]

Helicopter pilot error. 100%

Terrible tragedy.