Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

Nobody should be against Jews. People can and should hate the Zionists all they want, but let's never judge anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. Zionists have perverted Judaism for personal gain and power and have weaponized it to dehumanize and massacre Palestinians. Zionism is undoubtedly a hideous and racist creed, but please, let's recognize the difference between Jews and Zionists. Many Jews hate Zionism.

Well, when are Jews going to oust Bibi and his right wing religious minions?

Chuck Schumer, the most powerful Jew in American politics called for his ouster in a compelling and passionate speech.

Sadly I'm not hearing a damn thing similar to that from powerful and influential Muslims calling for the ouster of Hamas leadership.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

Nobody should be against Jews. People can and should hate the Zionists all they want, but let's never judge anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. Zionists have perverted Judaism for personal gain and power and have weaponized it to dehumanize and massacre Palestinians. Zionism is undoubtedly a hideous and racist creed, but please, let's recognize the difference between Jews and Zionists. Many Jews hate Zionism.

Well, when are Jews going to oust Bibi and his right wing religious minions?

Chuck Schumer, the most powerful Jew in American politics called for his ouster in a compelling and passionate speech.

Sadly I'm not hearing a damn thing similar to that from powerful and influential Muslims calling for the ouster of Hamas leadership.

I mean, isn't Israel supposedly ousting Hamas and its leadership? Or is that goal no longer on the agenda?

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

And murdering 30k+ and injuring tens of thousands is on a different level as well.

The 30k amplified by the fact of Hamas hiding among civilian populations and using them as human shields, along with Hamas stealing the food, medicine, water and supplies for their own troops while leaving fellow Palestinians to starve. If Hamas wasn't such a group of violent callous, scumbags a lot of Palestinians could have been spared.

That's an absolute fact that cannot be disputed or denied. Hamas is every bit, if not more complicit in those deaths as the IDF. There is no getting around that fact.

Bullshit. We passed the “hamas is complicit and hides among civilians” line about 80 days ago.

Israel is out to kill every last Palestinian man woman and child.

It’s pretty obvious to anyone that isnt brainwashed.

Shame on every Jew that doesn’t condemn this. I never want to hear about the holocaust ever again. The hypocrisy is shocking.

[Anonymous]

There is no hamas in Gaza. The IDF has released reservists back to their civilian lives. So even the IDF is not fighting right now.

There are a bunch of "families" in Gaza that provide protection for aid convoys for a free. The families have always been independent of hamas and a force in Gaza. They ride on top of the convoys, etc. The IDF thinks these people are hamas...just like all the aid organizations are hamas. The IDF needs a lot of hin the intelligence department.

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Anonymous wrote:The IDF put a baby in an oven and baked it in front of it’s father.

Let that sink in.

The IDF is raping women in front of their children then executing them all at Al Shifa hospital RIGHT NOW.

Everything that has been debunked that they claimed was done by “hamas” they are doing to innocent Palestinians. I will NEVER, EVER support Israel.

Our government hid 3 BILLION for Israel and has pledged to defund any UN agency that backs Palestine in the newest bill that was just passed. DISGUSTING.

Do you have citations from credible sources to back up your wild claims about the IDF baking babies in ovens or raping women in front of their children?

It was settlers who burned a baby to death and celebrated it. The baby's name was Ali Saad Dawabshe and he was 18 months old. The current Minister of National Security faniusly celebrated this event at a wedding.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-extremists-taunt-alis-on-the-grill-at-slain-toddlers-relatives/

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I don't how much you hate someone else. Intentionally starving children is never acceptable or justified.

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Shame on every Zionist that still believes in the Irael project. Shame on you and your ilk.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

Yours is the logic of a psychopath.
Let me give you an analogy to your poor logic. Let's say your DD stole a ring from a jewelry store, and refused to return it. The store owners repeated asked her to return the jewelry, but she didn't, so the owners decided to bomb her entire neighborhood and then cut off the water supply to the town and barricade the roads. Your reasoning is well 500 people wouldn't be dead and starving if she hadn't stolen the jewelry and all she had t do was return the ring. The owners are not just being bullies, they are psychopathic. The owners are Israel.
I can't tell if you're actually low IQ or just being a troll, but clearly the rest of the world sees a distressingly disproportionate response to Hamas's crime. How else does a collective people turn a blind eye to the deliberate starvation of babies and the slaughter of their parents?

Murdering 1200 and injuring thousands is different than stealing a ring

And murdering 30k+ and injuring tens of thousands is on a different level as well.

911, same thing different country, US eliminated 3.6 million, 30k ain't much. They should give better thoughts into voting for hamas

The response to 9/11 was absurd, but the US probably didn't eliminate 3.6 million. The number of dead in Hamas is going to be much higher than 30K when this is all over. More people will probably die of disease, starvation, and lack of healthcare than from the bombs and tanks. Israel is going to leave a huge mess behind for someone else to clean up when it gets through its paroxysms of violence and destructions.

Palestineans have learned elections have consequences , sleep with snakes die with snakes. Accountability is a hard concept for some.

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Firstly, even if this is true, Israel still has to abide by the international rules of warfare.

Why?
And what are these rules?

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Israel and Palestine are at war. How should this war end?

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This 'babies burned by IDF', appears to be in response to accusations of Hamas burning a baby in an oven, and the main source video, I found on Reddit, is about Deir Yassin from years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:This 'babies burned by IDF', appears to be in response to accusations of Hamas burning a baby in an oven, and the main source video, I found on Reddit, is about Deir Yassin from years ago.

It's a reference to the initial Israeli claims of what happened on 10/7. Bibi told Biden that this had happened but it turned out to not be true.

Ironically, psycho settlers had actually done it to a West Bank baby a few years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

Nobody should be against Jews. People can and should hate the Zionists all they want, but let's never judge anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. Zionists have perverted Judaism for personal gain and power and have weaponized it to dehumanize and massacre Palestinians. Zionism is undoubtedly a hideous and racist creed, but please, let's recognize the difference between Jews and Zionists. Many Jews hate Zionism.

Well, when are Jews going to oust Bibi and his right wing religious minions?

Chuck Schumer, the most powerful Jew in American politics called for his ouster in a compelling and passionate speech.

Sadly I'm not hearing a damn thing similar to that from powerful and influential Muslims calling for the ouster of Hamas leadership.

I mean, isn't Israel supposedly ousting Hamas and its leadership? Or is that goal no longer on the agenda?

You seem confused. It's the Gazans who should be calling for the ouster of Hamas. And doing so would bring much faster humanitarian aid and relief.

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Anonymous wrote:The IDF put a baby in an oven and baked it in front of it’s father.

Let that sink in.

The IDF is raping women in front of their children then executing them all at Al Shifa hospital RIGHT NOW.

Everything that has been debunked that they claimed was done by “hamas” they are doing to innocent Palestinians. I will NEVER, EVER support Israel.

Our government hid 3 BILLION for Israel and has pledged to defund any UN agency that backs Palestine in the newest bill that was just passed. DISGUSTING.

Do you have citations from credible sources to back up your wild claims about the IDF baking babies in ovens or raping women in front of their children?

It was settlers who burned a baby to death and celebrated it. The baby's name was Ali Saad Dawabshe and he was 18 months old. The current Minister of National Security faniusly celebrated this event at a wedding.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-extremists-taunt-alis-on-the-grill-at-slain-toddlers-relatives/

This is absolutely sickening! To think that a crowd of despicable lowlifes chanted, "Ali's on the grill!" (Ali was the 18-month-old toddler) when the poor Dawabshe family showed up for court proceedings. Evil, racist people! The terrorist also killed Ali's parents and burned his 4-year-old brother over 60% of his body. The cowardly and vicious murderer, Amiram Ben-Uliel, was eventually sentenced to life in prison, but an Israeli lawmaker, Limor Son Har-Melech, called him "a holy righteous man"! Apparently, a group of Zionist extremists are trying to get this despicable terrorist released from jail.

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Firstly, even if this is true, Israel still has to abide by the international rules of warfare.

Why?
And what are these rules?

DP. Why wouldn't Hamas need to also abide by the rules? Gaza might not be an independent nation but Hamas is nonetheless the formally and legally elected government of Gaza. What if Governor Abbott of Texas decided to unilaterally launch rockets with banned chemical weapons at civilian targets in Mexico? Wouldn't there be some call and expectation of accountability on the international stage? There absolutely would!